Get ready folks

The forcing part comes not directly from the clubs, but from the leagues that are sanctioning the competitions that the clubs put teams in. Player needs a valid player card for the season. Rules for obtaining that player card are X. Under no circumstances are any of the legitimate leagues going to go down the path where they no longer require current and valid player cards, as it starts to touch on all sorts of thorny issues including insurance and liability.
 
The forcing part comes not directly from the clubs, but from the leagues that are sanctioning the competitions that the clubs put teams in. Player needs a valid player card for the season. Rules for obtaining that player card are X. Under no circumstances are any of the legitimate leagues going to go down the path where they no longer require current and valid player cards, as it starts to touch on all sorts of thorny issues including insurance and liability.
Couldn’t everyone who falls under this new rule just “play up” ?
 
No, but as you can see not everyone is keen to change.

Om this site there's an echo chamber of mostly ECNL Girls parents.
I was just joking around. Also everyone shouldn’t be on board parents will always look out for their kids and clubs will always look out for their bottom line. This change will shake up things in a big way for many parents and clubs.
 
Do you think clubs will enforce this at all since it will disrupt teams or do you think they will be forced by US Soccer or another governing body to make clubs make the changes to their teams?
This change will be very different than last time. Clubs do not have to move players or accept new players. However after the dust settles and a parent realizes they can get substantially more playing time going down to their school grade they will make that change. Some clubs/teams will stay together but they would be like a sinking ship. Eventually kids will leave and they will start replacing those kids with older kids.
 
Couldn’t everyone who falls under this new rule just “play up” ?
Theoretically they could, but would they be competitive and what would the club do if there are multiple Aug-Dec kids in the club from the year above who are just better players and who want to play on the team? I would expect clubs will comply and teams will break up and nobody will care in a year or two.
 
am I understanding this proposed rule change properly:

For example next year:
U10 would be July 1, 2015 - June 30, 2016?
U11 would be July 1, 2014-June 30, 2015?

And U11 would still be the start of 9v9.
 
I'm hearing it all over, "Oh our team will stay together either way!" No, your team will blow up, just like all of the others! If you like your kid's team, let US Soccer know, because what they are considering will destroy the existing teams.
Wait? I thought that there were only a handful of Trapped Players. How can a few players create a cascade event that effects every team?
Theoretically they could, but would they be competitive and what would the club do if there are multiple Aug-Dec kids in the club from the year above who are just better players and who want to play on the team? I would expect clubs will comply and teams will break up and nobody will care in a year or two.
Of course they are competitive. Haven't you read all about how the Trapped Players are not at a disadvantage playing with their current teams. The same teams they would be "playing up" on under the proposed rule change.
 
Wait? I thought that there were only a handful of Trapped Players. How can a few players create a cascade event that effects every team?

Of course they are competitive. Haven't you read all about how the Trapped Players are not at a disadvantage playing with their current teams. The same teams they would be "playing up" on under the proposed rule change.
for example the Aug-Dec older kids could currently be on a 2nd team but are better than the younger Jan-Jul players, unlikely all but likely some or a lot - we’ll see if it pans out.
 
for example the Aug-Dec older kids could currently be on a 2nd team but are better than the younger Jan-Jul players, unlikely all but likely some or a lot - we’ll see if it pans out.
Probably different as they get older, but I’m already seeing the impact on youngers. Aug-Dec U11 players who will probably play U11 next year and displace some of the younger U10’s that normally would play U11 next year. They already have a year of 9v9 experience and could be close to 18 months older than the youngest players. They are still really young so in the grand scheme of things it’s probably not a huge deal, but will definitely have families looking for other options that will break up some existing teams.
 
Can we all agree that the “vote” is just a formality at this point? The decision has been made.
I don’t think anything is set in stone. The soccer community is running away with news of this only hearing from ECNL. Although I think most of us can rationalize and justify why this change makes sense that it would happen.
 
I don’t think anything is set in stone. The soccer community is running away with news of this only hearing from ECNL. Although I think most of us can rationalize and justify why this change makes sense that it would happen.
There's now people starting rumors that US Soccer voted internally on BY vs SY and chose to stay BY.

Since nobody is providing sources everyone is equally credible.

The only two official statements I've seen on the matter are from ECNL leadership in a podcast and a response from the DPL president on the DPL homepage.
 
for example the Aug-Dec older kids could currently be on a 2nd team but are better than the younger Jan-Jul players, unlikely all but likely some or a lot - we’ll see if it pans out.
So in the current Birthyear scenario, are the Jan-Sep older players better than the Oct-Dec younger players?
 
I love how casual everyone makes it sound... like players/parents can select the team they want from a menu. To be clear, no one can simply "choose" to play up; the CLUB chooses who they will invite to be on teams... the player can accept the bid on an older team or not. That's the only choice they have.
The trapped players, are already playing on those teams. Why would a date change suddenly change those players skill level. They are not choosing to play on a different team, they would be choosing to continue play on their current team, which would now be considered playing up for that player.
 
There's now people starting rumors that US Soccer voted internally on BY vs SY and chose to stay BY.

Since nobody is providing sources everyone is equally credible.

The only two official statements I've seen on the matter are from ECNL leadership in a podcast and a response from the DPL president on the DPL homepage.
One thing I've learned about rumors on this forum, is that they are usually correct, unless it is some one off poster with a troll account making their first post. After all the chatter about it on the sidelines, and this forum, it would be a very safe bet.
 
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