ECNL vs. DA turf war has created a 'toxic environment'

[Justus]

Justus I am so confused what you are so upset about.
1. Surf lied to you that your dd was a unicorn?
2. DA wont let your dd play in their sandbox since she does not want to play DA?
3. Surf DA players play at private high schools including President's kid at Bishops and are therefore working the system?
4. The fact that your dd's glory days as a GOAT are over since you pissed off all of the GOAT parents online here?
5. The fact that your dd's glory days on a winning team are over since you have burned so many bridges?
Everyone please add to my list if you can figure it out.

Stop the dribble about the Surf team being amazing. Surf wanted that 04 team to go all the way due to the Board members kiddos being on the team. They also knew that the hardest competition they would face was in CalSouth. So they recruited players away from other top teams in Southern Cal. They promised families from inland and OC the world to make sure that teams like the Blues, Slammers, West Coast, Arsenal (I am speculating on some of these teams) did not have a nexus of players to beat Surf. This included scholarships to lure players away from their current teams, like your family. At the time I am sure you did not give a crap about any of the players that were being displaced, not because they were not good enough to make the team, but because they needed to make more room for the players they wanted to keep off of other teams. I am also sure you did not give a crap about the families that paid more so you could have a free ride. Scholarships are not always about getting the best players but keeping players from other teams too. While I am sure your dd is a great player, you are also minimizing the contributions of legit players on that team. You reap what you sow.

Listen, sorry about what went down a few years ago. However, did you take a look at what the Legends FC haul brought in the year after? No YNT one year and then 4. Gee, how did that happen? Surf was not alone. San Jose Earthquakes (Girls DA) got the #1 team in Nocal, De Anza to come over and his coach mid season and cost CalNorth a championship opportunity against us in the finals in Far West. I'm pissed about that. The whole 04' team vanished in the night. And your pissed at me because my dd made a move and a few months later a few of her friends came. Get mad at the DA bro. They changed the birth year and did all this in one year to us and now were all fighting....lol. I was just trying to find a place for my little goat to graze the land. It was hard stuff. This is tough stuff. Please don't read anymore.

 

[Justus]

Listen, sorry about what went down a few years ago. However, did you take a look at what the Legends FC haul brought in the year after? No YNT one year and then 4. Gee, how did that happen? Surf was not alone. San Jose Earthquakes (Girls DA) got the #1 team in Nocal, De Anza to come over and his coach mid season and cost CalNorth a championship opportunity against us in the finals in Far West. I'm pissed about that. The whole 04' team vanished in the night. And your pissed at me because my dd made a move and a few months later a few of her friends came. Get mad at the DA bro. They changed the birth year and did all this in one year to us and now were all fighting....lol. I was just trying to find a place for my little goat to graze the land. It was hard stuff. This is tough stuff. Please don't read anymore.

Instead of playing De Anza, we had to play some team called "Pacnorth"in the Semis and our team won 10-0. We wanted De Anza and that's it because we knew whoever wins that game will be the true champ.

 

[Justus]

and for the record Fact, Kobe Bryant even got into the SoCal Youth Soccer action. I heard he "sponsored" a few Goats too for his team his dd played on. This is Socal, big time soccer here and I got way more than I wanted. I feel like I owe it to the next sucker so he doesn't get screwed over like you did and I did.

 

[Fact]

and for the record Fact, Kobe Bryant even got into the SoCal Youth Soccer action. I heard he "sponsored" a few Goats too for his team his dd played on. This is Socal, big time soccer here and I got way more than I wanted. I feel like I owe it to the next sucker so he doesn't get screwed over like you did and I did.

Excuse me but I am not complaining about my families teams. Take some responsibility for your actions instead of continually whining that YOU got screwed over.

 

[Fact]

and for the record Fact, Kobe Bryant even got into the SoCal Youth Soccer action. I heard he "sponsored" a few Goats too for his team his dd played on. This is Socal, big time soccer here and I got way more than I wanted. I feel like I owe it to the next sucker so he doesn't get screwed over like you did and I did.

What does Kobe sponsoring a few kids have to do with anything? I've sponsored a few AYSO kiddos. Does that make me a god?
"Big time soccer" this quote is exactly where your problem stems from. seek help, these are little kids you are talking about.

 

[Justus]

Justus I am so confused what you are so upset about.
1. Surf lied to you that your dd was a unicorn? No, Once a soccer player, always.
2. DA wont let your dd play in their sandbox since she does not want to play DA? Hard one to answer
3. Surf DA players play at private high schools including President's kid at Bishops and are therefore working the system? I have no clue
4. The fact that your dd's glory days as a GOAT are over since you pissed off all of the GOAT parents online here? Half and half right now so not ALL. Small correction
5. The fact that your dd's glory days on a winning team are over since you have burned so many bridges? Was never looking for a winning team. Only other goats who wanted to win too. Winning for some teams might mean making the playoffs. It's not all about winning but winning is fun.
Everyone please add to my list if you can figure it out.
I have a few to add
1. Old DOC is my issue
2. DA is really upsetting me
3. The lies from the DA that this is the most competitive games on the market.
3. No non DA 04' on The List
4. Forced a new philosophy down our throats
5. The girls are getting screwed
6. Long far drive for 800 miles for one game
7. Have to Travel on plans not to Hawaii
8. Not Ensuring a healthy environment for my goat
9. Not Allowing Latinos not named Donavan on the 59 member Youth Task Force
I have more if you want them

 

[Fact]

Listen, sorry about what went down a few years ago. However, did you take a look at what the Legends FC haul brought in the year after? No YNT one year and then 4. Gee, how did that happen? Surf was not alone. San Jose Earthquakes (Girls DA) got the #1 team in Nocal, De Anza to come over and his coach mid season and cost CalNorth a championship opportunity against us in the finals in Far West. I'm pissed about that. The whole 04' team vanished in the night. And your pissed at me because my dd made a move and a few months later a few of her friends came. Get mad at the DA bro. They changed the birth year and did all this in one year to us and now were all fighting....lol. I was just trying to find a place for my little goat to graze the land. It was hard stuff. This is tough stuff. Please don't read anymore.

Instead of playing De Anza, we had to play some team called "Pacnorth"in the Semis and our team won 10-0. We wanted De Anza and that's it because we knew whoever wins that game will be the true champ.

Complete gibberish. Does anyone understand the relevance?

 

[Justus]

What does Kobe sponsoring a few kids have to do with anything? I've sponsored a few AYSO kiddos. Does that make me a god?
"Big time soccer" this quote is exactly where your problem stems from. seek help, these are little kids you are talking about.

Where have you been the last two years? I call Roll Call on Fact. Give it up, what level?

 

[Fact]

Justus I am so confused what you are so upset about.
1. Surf lied to you that your dd was a unicorn? No, Once a soccer player, always.
2. DA wont let your dd play in their sandbox since she does not want to play DA? Hard one to answer
3. Surf DA players play at private high schools including President's kid at Bishops and are therefore working the system? I have no clue
4. The fact that your dd's glory days as a GOAT are over since you pissed off all of the GOAT parents online here? Half and half right now so not ALL. Small correction
5. The fact that your dd's glory days on a winning team are over since you have burned so many bridges? Was never looking for a winning team. Only other goats who wanted to win too. Winning for some teams might mean making the playoffs. It's not all about winning but winning is fun.
Everyone please add to my list if you can figure it out.
I have a few to add
1. Old DOC is my issue
2. DA is really upsetting me
3. The lies from the DA that this is the most competitive games on the market.
3. No non DA 04' on The List
4. Forced a new philosophy down our throats
5. The girls are getting screwed
6. Long far drive for 800 miles for one game
7. Have to Travel on plans not to Hawaii
8. Not Ensuring a healthy environment for my goat
9. Allow Latinos not named Donavan on the 59 member Youth Task Force
I have more if you want them

Please do list them all. It might be quicker and easier to understand then your gibberish.

 

[Fact]

Where have you been the last two years? I call Roll Call on Fact. Give it up, what level?

I thought you knew who I am?
Based on my comments about my kiddos and nieces, the people that know me well and are on this forum know how I am. That is good enough for me. You and Luis might be able to get a partner discount for therapy. Have a good evening, I am out.

 

[Justus]

I thought you knew who I am?
Based on my comments about my kiddos and nieces, the people that know me well and are on this forum know how I am. That is good enough for me. You and Luis might be able to get a partner discount for therapy. Have a good evening, I am out.

I thought I did but what you just ranted about after I've been on here for the last month or so has me perplexed. I already said sorry to the group and it's like your telling all the new people who don't have time to read the old thread that became live again, the truth. Go to the 2009 thread and read up Fact so you can learn more about the GOATs and why this place is open for business 24/7. Seriously folks, people tell me to stop and go to bed on here. This is open 24/7 and I will come here when I want just like everyone else. In fact, I encourage all the new people joining this round table to look too at 2009. Come back here and tell me what you learned over there with the u9s. This is always going to be about who the #1 team is in SoCal because that usually means #1 in the nation, just saying...... and my goat is 04' and for this dad who only has 3 more years left here (I was gone for the last 3) Look at 2012 age and read everyone. It brought a tear to my eye, no joke. I can't wait to be like @espola and come back 10 years later and see how we all fixed this. Encourage them to be brave too. That's what this new thread is about, not attacking me again and bringing up old wounds. Let it go Fact, I did already. Here's a true story: My dd is on the B team frosh/Soph VB at school. She could try her luck and most likely watch from the sidelines on the A Team and not play at all. But she can tell all her friends she's on the A team, kind of like telling everyone your on the DA team or ECNL team. The reward for some is telling their friends I made the A team and for others it's "we beat JSierra today dad and I played in all 3 games." Cool stuff!!! She wants to play most of the game because that is fun. She is very competitive like a warrior but knows her limits and abilities too. She wants Action and her Action is playing in the actual games. I'm not judging those who look at this youth soccer stuff differently. Some kids want to be just on the team and root their friends on from the sidelines and theirs nothing wrong with that. Again, you have to understand your limits. Mars and PaPa already have all the U9 goats ranked and this is by each teams players. These guys are freaking good now days with all the social stuff. I'm sorry, but this thread is DA vs ECNL and how we got here in the first place. I lived it Fact and I guess I'm here to share a little about my experience so I can get my goat back to be the #1 GOAT again because when she was 8, the bitch told me she was fast...…..

 

[Justus]

The bitch was @Sombitch just so I'm clear. Edit went down from 5 minutes to 4. Is platinum unlimited edits and delete late if you make mistake?

 

[Justus]

Excuse me but I am not complaining about my families teams. Take some responsibility for your actions instead of continually whining that YOU got screwed over.

Sorry, I mean to say, "my dd got big time screwed over." I got screwed over back in 85' when I walked on CSUF and Garrido wanting me to red shirt. He told me I could be the next Mickey Rivers. However, I tried hard that hot summer to hit that damn curve ball with no luck. I could see the writing on the wall. He wanted me to be a scout player at best, maybe steal a base my SR year and shag fly balls all day and maybe throw some BP and ruin my arm. I said no thanks and went straight to the gym and worked on my basketball skills and got really good. I mean really good. Reggie and Cherly would be there, Fryer from CDM, Tom Lewis, Leon Wood would come play some and a little Scottie Brooks now and then. I was thinking maybe I could shoot them up in Europe with the likes of Kevin McGee from UCI. However, when I would run with them I only worked on defense because well, they were a little better than me and I never, and I mean never, saw the rock to shoot and I wouldn't dare try either with my squad. I soon realized I was a adult B league player play at best and that's it. The A league guys were all ex pros and D1 only and they never passed. B league, I was where I was needed and I was having fun. I got the call up sometimes with the A team guys but I didn't have fun because, well, they were complete ball hogs and I wanted to go back to the glory days where I was the star attraction and that could only happen at B League Adult Men's team, not D1 college ball at UCLA which was my dream. All my friends would mock me all the time when I was 11.

 

[Justus]

Sorry, I mean to say, "my dd got big time screwed over." I got screwed over back in 85' when I walked on CSUF and Garrido wanting me to red shirt. He told me I could be the next Mickey Rivers. However, I tried hard that hot summer to hit that damn curve ball with no luck. I could see the writing on the wall. He wanted me to be a scout player at best, maybe steal a base my SR year and shag fly balls all day and maybe throw some BP and ruin my arm. I said no thanks and went straight to the gym and worked on my basketball skills and got really good. I mean really good. Reggie and Cherly would be there, Fryer from CDM, Tom Lewis, Leon Wood would come play some and a little Scottie Brooks now and then. I was thinking maybe I could shoot them up in Europe with the likes of Kevin McGee from UCI. However, when I would run with them I only worked on defense because well, they were a little better than me and I never, and I mean never, saw the rock to shoot and I wouldn't dare try either with my squad. I soon realized I was a adult B league player play at best and that's it. The A league guys were all ex pros and D1 only and they never passed. B league, I was where I was needed and I was having fun. I got the call up sometimes with the A team guys but I didn't have fun because, well, they were complete ball hogs and I wanted to go back to the glory days where I was the star attraction and that could only happen at B League Adult Men's team, not D1 college ball at UCLA which was my dream. All my friends would mock me all the time when I was 11.

The reason I tell you this Fact, I personally got to live out my dreams the right way, through trying and failing until I was 22. I reached my peak and it wasn't good enough obviously. My little goat is only 15 and still thinks she has .05% chance and some of the folks at Vegas Heat and MLVA think so too and The Crossfire, Blues ECNL and players over at LAFC and teams like Santa Monica United before they go merge with Surf just because they want to...….all the Latinos not named Donovan and the girls maybe in Ohio and Michigan. I'm going to do my own research on Ohio and Michigan. Quakes has all the top players in Norcal. They can at least show some competitive love and scrimmage MLVA. Live stream that game and you have a winner I promise.

 

[Justus]

Live stream these big DA vs ECNL games too and all the college coaches can sit down at home, relax, grab a cold one and actually watch the game on TV and take notes and slow mow it to see if the recruit is truly all in. Parents from the socal soccer forum and other forums across the state can watch and have real rankings based on the action we all see with our eyes

 

[Justus]

Why any team travels outside of SoCal for league games is beyond me. It's a total waste and makes soccer unnecessarily expensive. SoCal clubs need to start throwing around their weight, just as California is now doing with the NCAA. If teams outside of SoCal don't want to come and play us, who cares. We have more than enough competition locally.

DA Folks are getting ready to take a fairly over to Jones Island in the next year or so. Let them be. Koolaide is extra strong and I hear can put you to sleep for a long time. Let's take the rest of SoCal and my advice if you don't mine, include two teams in Vegas like the Heat. We should get real apps to see how many parents have been asked to leave the fields for bad sportsmanship and all the teams up North not named Quakes. We can have 80% games in SoCal and then have a Vegas road trip and one NorCal.

 

[gotothebushes]

I thought I did but what you just ranted about after I've been on here for the last month or so has me perplexed. I already said sorry to the group and it's like your telling all the new people who don't have time to read the old thread that became live again, the truth. Go to the 2009 thread and read up Fact so you can learn more about the GOATs and why this place is open for business 24/7. Seriously folks, people tell me to stop and go to bed on here. This is open 24/7 and I will come here when I want just like everyone else. In fact, I encourage all the new people joining this round table to look too at 2009. Come back here and tell me what you learned over there with the u9s. This is always going to be about who the #1 team is in SoCal because that usually means #1 in the nation, just saying...... and my goat is 04' and for this dad who only has 3 more years left here (I was gone for the last 3) Look at 2012 age and read everyone. It brought a tear to my eye, no joke. I can't wait to be like @espola and come back 10 years later and see how we all fixed this. Encourage them to be brave too. That's what this new thread is about, not attacking me again and bringing up old wounds. Let it go Fact, I did already. Here's a true story: My dd is on the B team frosh/Soph VB at school. She could try her luck and most likely watch from the sidelines on the A Team and not play at all. But she can tell all her friends she's on the A team, kind of like telling everyone your on the DA team or ECNL team. The reward for some is telling their friends I made the A team and for others it's "we beat JSierra today dad and I played in all 3 games." Cool stuff!!! She wants to play most of the game because that is fun. She is very competitive like a warrior but knows her limits and abilities too. She wants Action and her Action is playing in the actual games. I'm not judging those who look at this youth soccer stuff differently. Some kids want to be just on the team and root their friends on from the sidelines and theirs nothing wrong with that. Again, you have to understand your limits. Mars and PaPa already have all the U9 goats ranked and this is by each teams players. These guys are freaking good now days with all the social stuff. I'm sorry, but this thread is DA vs ECNL and how we got here in the first place. I lived it Fact and I guess I'm here to share a little about my experience so I can get my goat back to be the #1 GOAT again because when she was 8, the bitch told me she was fast...…..

You should have stopped when you said '' When she was 8". 8 yrs old man!! Listen to yourself. Thats a long time ago. She's not 8 anymore. Be happy she's still playing at a high level in ECNL.

 

[Justus]

Albion was definitely coming for the GOAT players. I’m sure they still will. After last weekends results, they might need to stay persistent. You summed it up. LVSA 03 won the National League title AFTER ECNL/GDA was formed.

You know what @shales1002, I'm starting to smell something bad out in Vegas and how it all went down. The President asked the US Soccer Federation to find the nations best 04 goats in the WHOLE country. The best way to do that IMO is to get the scouts to each state and check out the baby goats and let them play and battle it out openly, in front of the scouts. It seems like the DA had a different game plan behind closed doors with all the adults? DA gets all the applications from Vegas clubs and sets up the interviews. The Top club jumps to the front of line and where I come from, they usually get first choice of whatever they want. However, A smart club (girls first) look at what the choices are first b4 jumping into something because some clubs and coaches care about the girls first, not their pocket book. The interview goes like this to get them to follow their religion/pholosphy. "Kneel and Kiss the Ring or Else! We all have choices to make, some choose to drive 800 miles for one game, some choose to fly to FL and look for Hugs from Bush people, so choose wisely and do as I say and all will go with YOU and Your club." If wise DOC says, "get lost" they will go behind your back and try to send in their WOLF/Recruiter to try and knock off one baby goat at a time with the hope of finding a naïve parent from, lets say a team like the Heat FC. Some naïve parents are struggling to put food on the table and maybe all expense paid everything and all the access could be a little tempting for some. I know I play around sometimes, but seriously @shales1002, is their anyone on that team that can at least give those the U16 DA YNT girls a challenge or are all the top goats at Vegas Albion?

 

[Fact]

You know what @shales1002, I'm starting to smell something bad out in Vegas and how it all went down. The President asked the US Soccer Federation to find the nations best 04 goats in the WHOLE country. The best way to do that IMO is to get the scouts to each state and check out the baby goats and let them play and battle it out openly, in front of the scouts. It seems like the DA had a different game plan behind closed doors with all the adults? DA gets all the applications from Vegas clubs and sets up the interviews. The Top club jumps to the front of line and where I come from, they usually get first choice of whatever they want. However, A smart club (girls first) look at what the choices are first b4 jumping into something because some clubs and coaches care about the girls first, not their pocket book. The interview goes like this to get them to follow their religion/pholosphy. "Kneel and Kiss the Ring or Else! We all have choices to make, some choose to drive 800 miles for one game, some choose to fly to FL and look for Hugs from Bush people, so choose wisely and do as I say and all will go with YOU and Your club." If wise DOC says, "get lost" they will go behind your back and try to send in their WOLF/Recruiter to try and knock off one baby goat at a time with the hope of finding a naïve parent from, lets say a team like the Heat FC. Some naïve parents are struggling to put food on the table and maybe all expense paid everything and all the access could be a little tempting for some. I know I play around sometimes, but seriously @shales1002, is their anyone on that team that can at least give those the U16 DA YNT girls a challenge or are all the top goats at Vegas Albion?

Sitting at the airport waiting for a flight so I have time to kill on your nonsense.

You seriously have no idea who you are talking to in this post, do you? If anyone got screwed by DA it was this family, but you see they have nothing but class, unlike you.

If you want to rant, go ahead but don’t try to bait others into joining you. I already told you that if you had a problem with private schools allowing DA players to play HS, do something about it.

 

[HappyBeast]

"The President asked the US Soccer Federation to find the nations best 04 goats in the WHOLE country. The best way to do that IMO is to get the scouts to each state and check out the baby goats and let them play and battle it out openly, in front of the scouts."

Justus, when you say "The President" are you talking about the president of the United States?

 

[Justus]

"The President asked the US Soccer Federation to find the nations best 04 goats in the WHOLE country. The best way to do that IMO is to get the scouts to each state and check out the baby goats and let them play and battle it out openly, in front of the scouts."

Justus, when you say "The President" are you talking about the president of the United States?

Carlos the Columbian. However, I bet if you ask Trump he would demand that ALL peoples from everywhere that are citizens of the USA, Black and White, Latino and Asian, poor and rich, smart and dumb, HS Soccer and no HS Soccer, Private school kids and Public school kids, kids from Alabama and New York, kids from OH and OR, kids from East LA and Beverly Hills. Kids from San Ysidro and Rancho Santa Fe. Kids from Hollywood and Inglewood, kids from La Jolla and South Central, Kids from Vegas Albion and Vegas Heat, Kids from Strikers ECNL and San Jose Earthquakes, kids from Legends and Rebels...…….. ALL the kids from this great country need to be afforded equal access opportunities to anything called, "United States Youth National Team".....IMHO.