D1 college soccer under threat

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

Funny because the words are crystal clear to me and all the youth that consume it. I didn’t see any scantily clothed and objectified women either. You are conflating.
My generation turned the N word into a term of endearment to desensitize us from the pain of the word; it’s a controversial topic in the black community though. I was very surprised last summer when the use of the N word was covered in my kids majority white ATDP class.

Conflating? Are you fucking kidding me? You're going to tell me RAP videos don't do what I described? You're going to tell me these lines from the song don't convey a certain message? I mean, what is this shit? Desensitize you from the pain of the word? Does that make ANY sense to you?

Why you cop a Hellcat if you ain't doggin' nothin'?
I ain't tryna split the profit, either all or nothin'
Finna take my girly face to terrorize the mall or somethin'
We never cry 'bout a snitch's death, he had it bomin'

I'ma stand my own ground, a nigga play with me (Yeah)
Sentimental value, never sell the thing you gave to me (On God)
Who the king of Macramento? They gon' say it's me (On God)
I ain't tryna end up in the pen', that shit gay to me (Hell nah)

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

I’m not sure we’re listening to the same song. He’s telling a story about living in the hood. He’s not glamorizing the life. He even says that gangs aren’t glamorous, he motivates the young, he’s the one that makes sure the elderly don’t want for anything, he wants to take his girl on a shopping spree and that he’s in love with her mind. I think it’s a positive message.
I think living in the hood is toxic and it was before rap. Don’t kill the messenger for reporting the truth. I guess we have to agree to disagree.

Who makes "living in the hood" toxic? Who is to blame for that?

 

[MacDre]

No. But it might save the next young man.

Telling will only cause more death and destruction. This happened 9 years ago and it still hurts. I forgive those that did it and hope they find peace. I pray for them everyday because killing an innocent person is a heavy burden to carry for the entirety of your life.
I dealt with it by leaving town and isolating my daughter in TJ. About a year ago I heard a news report about a gang terrorizing the bay area. When I realized this new gang was created in honor of my nephew and to avenge his death I got sick to my stomach. I feel personally responsible for all the people that were victimized by the swerve team. I feel selfish and cowardly for running but I needed time to heal. Hopefully, they all get locked up forever.
I thank an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I’m on this forum trying to save lives and learn the nuts and bolts of running a soccer club. Hopefully I can make soccer and school the new gang but I have to get to them while they are young. They’ll listen to me and take my guidance. Programs for youth saves lives not telling.

 

[MacDre]

That's true... but it might save lives and foster the change you seek rather than calling cops pigs and saying there are way too many black men in prison. How else do these areas get cleaned up? A young man is gunned down and all we'll hear is "cops take forever to show up and don't do anything." Well, I'd get pretty complacent, too, if I couldn't pry any information out of anybody. Why show up at all? You're constantly hated and nobody is willing to help you do your job.

I have family that are cops and they’ll tell you that there are serious problems. If you would’ve watched the Netflix documentary recommended you’d know that the prison system is modern day slavery. I also am well aware that defendant’s from my hood don’t get the same type of defense as the defendants in the Wellcare fraud case that I worked on for years.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

Telling will only cause more death and destruction. This happened 9 years ago and it still hurts. I forgive those that did it and hope they find peace. I pray for them everyday because killing an innocent person is a heavy burden to carry for the entirety of your life.
I dealt with it by leaving town and isolating my daughter in TJ. About a year ago I heard a news report about a gang terrorizing the bay area. When I realized this new gang was created in honor of my nephew and to avenge his death I got sick to my stomach. I feel personally responsible for all the people that were victimized by the swerve team. I feel selfish and cowardly for running but I needed time to heal. Hopefully, they all get locked up forever.
I thank an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I’m on this forum trying to save lives and learn the nuts and bolts of running a soccer club. Hopefully I can make soccer and school the new gang but I have to get to them while they are young. They’ll listen to me and take my guidance. Programs for youth saves lives not telling.

Again, I'm sorry for the loss of your nephew, but when you're bleeding, you don't just keep wiping the blood away... you put pressure on the wound.

 

[MacDre]

I used to teach math in san jose. The student I most respected was the one who was proud to be a manager at Walmart.

Tough as nails, and had an excellent sense for people. Knew exactly who to help and who was up to something.

Wish the culture could praise people like her.

Sorry. I chose the wrong song. Here you go:

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

Sorry. I chose the wrong song. Here you go:

How come there's never any RAP videos of getting up early and going to work? Maybe going to school? Playing sports? Helping a little old lady across the street? You think maybe there's some self induced oppression and self pity there? Always plenty of guys sitting around smoking weed, throwing gang signs and drinking. Maybe see about making a video without 9 gold chains?

And by the way, this is fucking horrible, too. Auto tune should be outlawed everywhere.

 

[MacDre]

How come there's never any RAP videos of getting up early and going to work? Maybe going to school? Playing sports? Helping a little old lady across the street? You think maybe there's some self induced oppression and self pity there? Always plenty of guys sitting around smoking weed, throwing gang signs and drinking. Maybe see about making a video without 9 gold chains?

And by the way, this is fucking horrible, too. Auto tune should be outlawed everywhere.

They are storytelling and making good money. It’s entertainment kinda like scarface and godfather movies. Some of it’s negative, some is party music, Drake is mainstream. I just relate to the stories in underground rap. I don’t like the water down commercial stuff on the radio.

 

[dad4]

I prefer Sketches of Spain, Professor Longhair, or Dr. John. But that's just me.

 

[MacDre]

I prefer Sketches of Spain, Professor Longhair, or Dr. John. But that's just me.

I like that stuff too, I just associate it with my grandparents. My regret about rap is that it’s rare for kids to play instruments in the hood now.
Rap is very personal for me. Because I grew up with many pioneers of the industry. Every time I hear someone say HATER I smile inside because I see the ability of my little community to influence the world. All these fancy folk trying to be cool by acting like my friends and I. I understand most don’t understand me. Hater wasn’t a word before this song.

 

[Simisoccerfan]

Maybe you all should get another room to debate!

 

[MacDre]

Maybe you all should get another room to debate!

And you sir are a HATER. Are you going to support your conclusion from above. My point still is I don’t like college soccer.

 

[Simisoccerfan]

Just because I said you should be banned doesn’t mean I am a hater. Don‘t jump to conclusions. I can think your opinion about college soccer is ridiculous especially for a member of this forum and still like you. Give yourself a chance!

 

[jpeter]

Men’s college soccer finds itself in a strange, fragile spot

Men’s college soccer finds itself in a strange, fragile spot | Charles Boehm | MLSSoccer.com

Boehm: Men’s college soccer finds itself in a strange, fragile spot

www.mlssoccer.com

Soccer is a “non-revenue sport,” in the NCAA’s cynical parlance, and that group is squarely in the crosshairs right now. This crisis has already robbed member schools of one massive income source, its college basketball tournament, and threatens another: the fall gridiron football season. Just like the proverbial grass that suffers most when elephants fight, if that money dries up, even in part, it’s the smaller sports that will feel the sting.

 

[SBFDad]

NCAA statement last night...

“Higher education is facing unique challenges, and the Division I leadership believes it’s appropriate to examine areas in which rules can be relaxed or amended to provide flexibility for schools and conferences,” Council chair M. Grace Calhoun, athletics director at Pennsylvania, said in the statement. “We will prioritize student-athlete well-being and opportunities balanced with reducing costs associated with administering college sports, but a blanket waiver of sport sponsorship requirements is not in keeping with our values and will not be considered.”

DI Council continues COVID-19 impact discussions

The Division I Council spent much of its meeting Friday discussing the effect of the COVID-19 pandemic on student-athletes, schools and conferences. Recognizing

www.ncaa.org

 

[eastbaysoccer]

Colleges need to sponsor a minimum of 16 varsity sports in order to maintain their D1 status.

#varsity sports for the following colleges according to wilkepedia:

30 Cal
17 Pacific
20 Santa Clara
17 Pepperdine
25 UCLA
22 Fresno state
19 SDSU

If the fall semester is canceled, football canceled I expect cuts to be made on sports programs.

 

[jpeter]

Colleges need to sponsor a minimum of 16 varsity sports in order to maintain their D1 status.

#varsity sports for the following colleges according to wilkepedia:

30 Cal
17 Pacific
20 Santa Clara
17 Pepperdine
25 UCLA
22 Fresno state
19 SDSU

If the fall semester is canceled, football canceled I expect cuts to be made on sports programs.

From those ncca minutes yesterday:

"While several legislative changes will be considered for blanket waivers, the Council indicated that sport sponsorship minimums should be removed from that list. Schools still can request sport sponsorship requirement waivers on an individual basis.

The other elements of the waiver request, including scheduling and summer access requirements, will be considered over the next few weeks"

Good move for the no on the blanket requests but sponsorship requirement waivers on a individual basis will be forthcoming and/or some will be dropped to the minimums.

Don't see anyway around this problem currently, the AD's and schools are faced with a bunch of tough choices. football revenue will be way off if they manage to have some sort of limited season and/or closed off games.

 

[espola]

NCAA statement last night...

“Higher education is facing unique challenges, and the Division I leadership believes it’s appropriate to examine areas in which rules can be relaxed or amended to provide flexibility for schools and conferences,” Council chair M. Grace Calhoun, athletics director at Pennsylvania, said in the statement. “We will prioritize student-athlete well-being and opportunities balanced with reducing costs associated with administering college sports, but a blanket waiver of sport sponsorship requirements is not in keeping with our values and will not be considered.”

DI Council continues COVID-19 impact discussions

The Division I Council spent much of its meeting Friday discussing the effect of the COVID-19 pandemic on student-athletes, schools and conferences. Recognizing

www.ncaa.org

It seems the NCAA is not afraid of a tsunami of paperwork and lawsuits. Since the proposal was supported by a majority of the conferences, but this part was taken out by the Council, that smells of Power-5 antidemocracy.

 

[EOTL]

To be fair, I have a hard time justifying the use of student fees to support athletics. Raises the cost to those who just want a degree.

I did play a sport during college, and had a great time. But I don't see how most other students benefited from my use of their fees.

We should get rid of engineering majors because it raises the cost of tuition and most students don’t benefit from it. We should get rid of the student newspaper because it raises tuition and most students don’t benefit from it. We should get rid of the student gyms because it raises tuition and most students don’t benefit from it. Why should the vegans have to subsidize all the meat and bread provided in the dorm cafeterias?

 

[vegasguy]

Thanks for your input. I’m not cynical or self-centered but my views are colored by my personal experience. I have never met a young basketball or football player from my hood that doesn’t want to go pro. I guess in the hood we separate the scholars from the athletes fairly early.


And what happens to those that flame out. What about those that never got a start. You take away some of the sports you knock out a certain amount of people not going to school. I have kids who play for me that may not be motivated at school without sport. The ticket would be getting soccer scholarships and educational funds that offset the ultimate cost of an education. MacDre you are good with leaving those kids behind.