College Entrance Scam includes former Yale Women's Soccer Coach

The narrative can change very quickly on UCLA. Better clean the house now. As investigators and the news said. “We are at the tip of the iceberg”.

Fact - a student involved in the scandal finds herself on the UCLA women’s soccer team.

Fact - Cromwell is in charge of the women’s soccer team/roster.

Conclusion- Cromwell added a non soccer player to the team which aided in her admittance to UCLA. IMO she was doing someone a favor and thought it was harmless.

Hey just offer Tiffany Roberts 250k and a national powerhouse team and she will take the job. She took over for Cromwell at UCF and has similar credentials and success.
 
Just amazing how money can quickly strip one of their morality. Reminds me of similar occurrences when it came to club soccer (and probably every other pay-to-play sport). Leaving a few spots on the roster just in case a cash cow came along and could help the team, the coach or the club even though little Susie would have a rough time making the roster on the C or D team. Winning Surf Cup (or whatever is the big to do nowadays) and just being in the team picture with a trophy or getting accepted into a prestigious school, it is all about the picture and not about having what it takes, (wouldn't be surprised to see classes being passed due to favors). Which is worse, the fact that there are those that are willing to spend the money or those that see the demand and thus are willing to provide the service?

Kind of miss the good ole days on the forum.
 
pitchplease said:
I understand UCLA is one component to this. But, what about the other Cali school in question? I realize the coach isn't there anymore, but will they face sanctions? Or any of the other schools for that matter? Yale? Same thing. Coach left, but what are the ramifications in this train wreck?
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Have to think as this situation dives deeper in to the investigation they will uncover more which will lead to further investigations across the country to prominent universities. This is not a California problem but one that is more than likely larger. So to throw disparaging comments that the culture in California, as so many have, to direct blame is so easy and without merit. What is done here is done else where. It's just magnified, but none the less happens.
 
LASTMAN14 said:
Have to think as this situation dives deeper in to the investigation they will uncover more which will lead to further investigations across the country to prominent universities. This is not a California problem but one that is more than likely larger. So to throw disparaging comments that the culture in California, as so many have, to direct blame is so easy and without merit. What is done here is done else where. It's just magnified, but none the less happens.
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Wow, you are a moron.
 
No, you are. Here is what your people in Arizona think of your state. So, keep on being you with useless posts. Your limited posts with angered biased opinions that are not supported by anything are old and have no weight with anyone. I only entertain you because you respond. But, most don't because they see no value in what you do. My mistake clicking the ignore button.
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Supermodel56 said:
Geez... back to topic at hand...

Wasn’t there more than one CA school? UCLA, USC, and Stanford?
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I'd say because the UCLA Women's Soccer team seemingly has a real shot at winning a National Title, and given that they haven't yet given a clear reason to think otherwise- it looks like they are willing to risk the integrity of their program and the university, in order avoid risking that shot. Maybe if they were the the New England Patriots that might fly... but we're talking amateur athletics at a public university.

That said, I have no real idea what the truth is (as I'm really just a parent sitting in bed typing away on my computer), and people like MAP who are in a better position to know then me seem quite adamite that there is nothing nefarious happening. So I think I that should be taken into account too.
 
Supermodel56 said:
On the flipside, given there is demand, I can see Universities set up supporter programs where parents can donate to the school and get priority for their kids, students still have requirements to meet and are not guaranteed - perhaps allot a certain number of spots. This way school programs are funded and it ensures in one way or another each student/parent is contributing to the university whether academically or financially. As an applicant, you now have multiple ways to get into the school of your choice.
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Wow, I'd hate to hear your hot take on the problems, or merit, as the case may be, of pay-to-play in youth soccer.
 
Supermodel56 said:
You make a great point - Cromwell has the discretion to admit anyone she wants for whatever reason - as a favor or anything else. Hopefully she didn’t accept any payments or compensation - in that case, I think while it may be a bit embarrassing for the program, she hopefully should survive this.
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regardless of accepting payments or compensation, she still participated in helping a student gain admission to the university under fraud. I don't think she can escape consequences for that. She was the head coach and at the end of the day had the final word on who is added to the roster. She used the separate student-athlete admissions process for a student that didn't meet that criteria.
 
Soccer43 said:
regardless of accepting payments or compensation, she still participated in helping a student gain admission to the university under fraud. I don't think she can escape consequences for that. She was the head coach and at the end of the day had the final word on who is added to the roster. She used the separate student-athlete admissions process for a student that didn't meet that criteria.
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I hear ya, that said, I can see how she may not have had any idea regarding the terms and just allowed the player to train, be added to the team as a favor - or it could've have been a subordinate who did everything (did Isackson even actually show up to practice?) People do favors all the time. She may not have known the mens coach was getting paid, who knows - maybe they told her some crazy story that it was a misprint and it'd get removed eventually (assuming Isackson never actually step foot on the field). But I agree, in most organizations, if you're the lead, it's your job to know and this is stuff that people in normal corporate environments get fired for all the time. Really a shame.
 
So favors are allowed is what I'm reading, and compromising integrity is just a byproduct of the favor provided, therefore not really an issue.
 
Supermodel56 said:
I hear ya, that said, I can see how she may not have had any idea regarding the terms and just allowed the player to train, be added to the team as a favor - or it could've have been a subordinate who did everything (did Isackson even actually show up to practice?) People do favors all the time. She may not have known the mens coach was getting paid, who knows - maybe they told her some crazy story that it was a misprint and it'd get removed eventually (assuming Isackson never actually step foot on the field). But I agree, in most organizations, if you're the lead, it's your job to know and this is stuff that people in normal corporate environments get fired for all the time. Really a shame.
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It is easier to see if you open your eyes.
 
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