Climate and Weather

[Multi Sport]

"Climate Change" is not the important part of the discussion. Since the industrial revolution, AGW has become the relevant discussion.

Actually Wez, the discussion is not AGW. Everyone knows that AGW exist, but the question is to what extent it is affecting the environment.

Is it so bad that we need to shutter the coal industry and do away with gasoline powered vehicles? Or is it having such a minor impact that we can continue business as usual?

The problem is you can't just use data. Scientist have gone on record saying that we are still exiting the past ice age, so that would mean the Earth is warming. If the that's true, how much warming is just naturally happening? What percent is AGW?

 

[Wez]

Actually Wez, the discussion is not AGW. Everyone knows that AGW exist, but the question is to what extent it is affecting the environment.

Is it so bad that we need to shutter the coal industry and do away with gasoline powered vehicles? Or is it having such a minor impact that we can continue business as usual?

The problem is you can't just use data. Scientist have gone on record saying that we are still exiting the past ice age, so that would mean the Earth is warming. If the that's true, how much warming is just naturally happening? What percent is AGW?

Quite a few people in power (and chumps here) don't think AGW is real. The coal industry is shuttering itself. Having a discussion about what to do with AGW is very healthy. Arguing that it isn't something we should prepare for because it is not real or at least not something we should care about, is not healthy. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

 

[Sheriff Joe]

Science needs funding like anything else, difference is, it doesn't rely on a false narrative to further it's profits.

That is exactly what it counts on, plus peoples fears. Other peoples fears.

 

[xav10]

That is exactly what it counts on, plus peoples fears. Other peoples fears.

Science counts on fears? So if we weren't afraid of things, we wouldn't have scientific research? I think earlier today you called me a weirdo and now you write this? Give me the science about pots and kettles.

 

[Wez]

That is exactly what it counts on, plus peoples fears. Other peoples fears.

Media stokes emotions, science doesn't.

 

[Sheriff Joe]

Science needs funding like anything else, difference is, it doesn't rely on a false narrative to further it's profits.

How is this for a false narrative, fear mongering.
Scientists Claim Hundreds of U.S. Cities May Not Survive Rising Waters…

 

[Sheriff Joe]

Media stokes emotions, science doesn't.

Can you please tell me what side of the fence the media is on?

 

[xav10]

How is this for a false narrative, fear mongering.
Scientists Claim Hundreds of U.S. Cities May Not Survive Rising Waters…

we knew about miami, where it's already happening. New York started to reveal when the wall street subway station flooded a couple of years ago. where is the false narrative, exactly?

 

[Sheriff Joe]

Science counts on fears? So if we weren't afraid of things, we wouldn't have scientific research? I think earlier today you called me a weirdo and now you write this? Give me the science about pots and kettles.

It was fucking weirdo, get your fact straight.
Scientists Claim Hundreds of U.S. Cities May Not Survive Rising Waters…
Fear. Count on it.
Al Gore: climate change is the 'biggest challenge our civilisation faces ...
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Jul 7, 2014

 

[xav10]

Can you please tell me what side of the fence the media is on?

well joey, let's unpack that question in the face of the Breitbart article that you just sent, screaming about all the cities going underwater...in their overwrought effort to cite the union of concerned scientists' study.

 

[Sheriff Joe]

we knew about miami, where it's already happening. New York started to reveal when the wall street subway station flooded a couple of years ago. where is the false narrative, exactly?

Fake news

 

[Wez]

Can you please tell me what side of the fence the media is on?

Both, why do you ask? http://adage.com/article/media/fox-msnbc-neck-neck-ratings-viewers-monitor-trump/309224/

 

[xav10]

Fake news

There you go again. You're totally my oldest son, when he was 5 and he would hear things he didn't want to hear, so he would run away with his fingers in his ears.

 

[espola]

Can you provide me a period in time that climate change was not happening.

Can you provide me a period in time when climate change was driven by human activity?

 

[espola]

Actually Wez, the discussion is not AGW. Everyone knows that AGW exist, but the question is to what extent it is affecting the environment.

Is it so bad that we need to shutter the coal industry and do away with gasoline powered vehicles? Or is it having such a minor impact that we can continue business as usual?

The problem is you can't just use data. Scientist have gone on record saying that we are still exiting the past ice age, so that would mean the Earth is warming. If the that's true, how much warming is just naturally happening? What percent is AGW?

If the brakes on your SUV fail as you are headed for a cliff, don't worry, just open a window and put out your arm.. Air resistance braking has always been dependable

 

[Bernie Sanders]

Can you provide me a period in time when climate change was driven by human activity?

I dont think anyone can do that.
Can you?

 

[espola]

I dont think anyone can do that.
Can you?

Yes.

 

[Bernie Sanders]

Yes.

AGW is "driving climate change"?
Not "influencing"
Not "impacting"
Either of which are still unproven.
You are an exceedingly arrogant prognosticator.

 

[espola]

AGW is "driving climate change"?
You are an exceedingly arrogant prognosticator.

It's so easy after the first time, right?

 

[Bernie Sanders]

Can you provide me a period in time when climate change was driven by human activity?

"Driven"?

 

[Bernie Sanders]

Yes.