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From wiki,
"In his calculation Arrhenius included the feedback from changes from changes in water vapor as well as latitudinal effects, but he omitted clouds, convection of heat upward in the atmosphere and other essential factors. His work is currently seen less as an accurate quantification of global warming, than as the first demonstration that increases in atmospheric c02 will cause global warming, everything else being equal."

In other words, he left out the major checks and balances, known, and unknown, and is left with a theory that works most of the time under controlled laboratory conditions.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
From wiki,
"In his calculation Arrhenius included the feedback from changes from changes in water vapor as well as latitudinal effects, but he omitted clouds, convection of heat upward in the atmosphere and other essential factors. His work is currently seen less as an accurate quantification of global warming, than as the first demonstration that increases in atmospheric c02 will cause global warming, everything else being equal."

In other words, he left out the major checks and balances, known, and unknown, and is left with a theory that works most of the time under controlled laboratory conditions.
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You are just a crazy denier.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
From wiki,
"In his calculation Arrhenius included the feedback from changes from changes in water vapor as well as latitudinal effects, but he omitted clouds, convection of heat upward in the atmosphere and other essential factors. His work is currently seen less as an accurate quantification of global warming, than as the first demonstration that increases in atmospheric c02 will cause global warming, everything else being equal."

In other words, he left out the major checks and balances, known, and unknown, and is left with a theory that works most of the time under controlled laboratory conditions.
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Arrhenius himself based his formula in measurements made in the open atmosphere.
 
Wez said:
Huge difference between Scientific studies eventually proved wrong by further research and experimentation, and political opinions based on no research or experimentation.
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So your reasoning is that a false scientific narrative was eventually proven wrong by another scientific theory that was supported by scientific studies?
 
espola said:
Arrhenius himself based his formula in measurements made in the open atmosphere.
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His theory relies on three components being increased at a synchronized rate, and the absence of interaction from known and unknown forces crucial to earth's climate dynamic.
In other words, unreliable within the context of actual climate application.
 
Multi Sport said:
So your reasoning is that a false scientific narrative was eventually proven wrong by another scientific theory that was supported by scientific studies?
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No idea what you just said.

What I am saying is, as long as the quest for knowledge is driven by research and experimentation to prove results, and not by political stance, we will be ok. Mankind is constantly making decisions on incomplete knowledge, that's how we progress. We should make decisions based on current knowledge from Science, not current political fighting with greed motives.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
His theory relies on three components being increased at a synchronized rate, and the absence of interaction from known and unknown forces crucial to earth's climate dynamic.
In other words, unreliable within the context of actual climate application.
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How many classes in physics, chemistry and/or physical chemistry have you completed?
 
Wez said:
No idea what you just said.

What I am saying is, as long as the quest for knowledge is driven by research and experimentation to prove results, and not by political stance, we will be ok. Mankind is constantly making decisions on incomplete knowledge, that's how we progress. We should make decisions based on current knowledge from Science, not current political fighting with greed motives.
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Here's a good read for you.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18949-the-history-of-ice-on-earth/
 
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