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[MacDre]

I think I read that as a minor, to play in Mexico, you would have to be within 30 miles of the US border and the foreign club also has to be within 30 miles of the border. Is that right?

I thought it was 50 but I may be confusing the FIFA rule with my auto insurance coverage.

But also, I’m taking the position that it doesn’t matter. The way I read FIFA rule 19 is that it was enacted to stop the trafficking of kids.

I think to argue Rule 19 applies to affluent kids from OC playing in TJ misconstrues the intent of the rule and is unethical.

 

[Scott m Shurson]

You internet like I do. When you disagree and you don’t call me names and insult my intelligence, how am I supposed to react?

I think you make a lot of good points and I long for a day to discuss topics like this in person, over a beverage, while watching some live sports in front of us.

Well, from what I gather, your kid is in the mix and we aren't there yet. Hopefully one day. I think I maybe romanticize college sports too much because I hate to think about how corrupt it really can be. Here's to that day.

 

[dk_b]

Well, from what I gather, your kid is in the mix and we aren't there yet. Hopefully one day. I think I maybe romanticize college sports too much because I hate to think about how corrupt it really can be. Here's to that day.

Let’s hope that day is soon for all of us. Cheers to a robust 2021, even if it is packed into the 2d 6 months.

 

[sdb]

I thought it was 50 but I may be confusing the FIFA rule with my auto insurance coverage.

But also, I’m taking the position that it doesn’t matter. The way I read FIFA rule 19 is that it was enacted to stop the trafficking of kids.

I think to argue Rule 19 applies to affluent kids from OC playing in TJ misconstrues the intent of the rule and is unethical.

50km. I was looking at US Soccer:

Minors International Clearance Process

Any player under the age of 18 who is not eligible for the Prior to 10 clearance method will be required to go through the FIFA Transfer Matching System (TMS) in order to obtain their international transfer clearance.

FIFA's Regulations state that international transfers of players are only permitted if the player is over the age of 18. However, there are three exceptions to the rule:

1. The player's parents move to the country in which the new club is located for reasons not linked to soccer.
2. The transfer takes place within the territory of the European Union.
3. The player lives outside the country, but no further than 50km from a national border. In addition, the club with which the player wishes to be registered in the neighboring association is also within 50km of that border.

U.S. Soccer can use exceptions No. 1 and No. 3, as the second exception deals only with players in Europe. The documentation listed below is required in order to prove a minor player qualifies for this process.

 

[MacDre]

50km. I was looking at US Soccer:

Minors International Clearance Process

Any player under the age of 18 who is not eligible for the Prior to 10 clearance method will be required to go through the FIFA Transfer Matching System (TMS) in order to obtain their international transfer clearance.

FIFA's Regulations state that international transfers of players are only permitted if the player is over the age of 18. However, there are three exceptions to the rule:

1. The player's parents move to the country in which the new club is located for reasons not linked to soccer.
2. The transfer takes place within the territory of the European Union.
3. The player lives outside the country, but no further than 50km from a national border. In addition, the club with which the player wishes to be registered in the neighboring association is also within 50km of that border.

U.S. Soccer can use exceptions No. 1 and No. 3, as the second exception deals only with players in Europe. The documentation listed below is required in order to prove a minor player qualifies for this process.

Interesting. I think this rule is kind of ambiguous. One way of reading the rule is that anyone living anywhere in California, Arizona or Texas within 50 km of the border could play for Club Tijuana because it’s also within 50km of the border. The rule doesn’t say “border crossing” and the US/Mexico border is long.

I am not sure how far Rayados and Tigres are from the border but it doesn’t look too bad for Club Tijuana.

I also don’t think families from OC will mind moving to Polanco (Mexico City) for language immersion and hooking up with Club America under exception #1 while they’re in the area.

 

[eastbaysoccer]

Why?

College athletes should be paid. A fr

This simply is not 100% true and times have possibly changed since suzysoccer1 played pro. It sounds like she was just an above average player or her experience would have been better. A lot of players overseas are playing and getting a degree. There are also a lot of girls who played in college got their degree who are making the same amount of money as a pro because they can't find a decent paying job because they couldn't do internships while at university.

To play for ones country is such an honour. I guess the difference is that it is near impossible in the USA - where in other countries its quite achievable.

The NWSL league maximum salary for 2020 has jumped to $50,000 and the league minimum salary has increased to $20,000. The 2019 season saw a maximum salary cap of $46,200 and a minimum of $16,538.

working at amazon is $15 per hour or $31,200 annualized.

20,000 broken down is $9.62 per hour. which is less than the $12 minimum wage in CA

 

[MacDre]

Interesting. I think this rule is kind of ambiguous. One way of reading the rule is that anyone living anywhere in California, Arizona or Texas within 50 km of the border could play for Club Tijuana because it’s also within 50km of the border. The rule doesn’t say “border crossing” and the US/Mexico border is long.

I am not sure how far Rayados and Tigres are from the border but it doesn’t look too bad for Club Tijuana.

I also don’t think families from OC will mind moving to Polanco (Mexico City) for language immersion and hooking up with Club America under exception #1 while they’re in the area.

I think it’s also reasonable to count the 50 km from San Clemente Border Station instead of San Ysidro or Otay Mesa since DHS and CBP consider the entire region to be the border and their jurisdiction.

 

[Soccer43]

[QUOTE="eastbaysoccer, post: 376177,

The NWSL league maximum salary for 2020 has jumped to $50,000 and the league minimum salary has increased to $20,000. The 2019 season saw a maximum salary cap of $46,200 and a minimum of $16,538.

working at amazon is $15 per hour or $31,200 annualized.

20,000 broken down is $9.62 per hour. which is less than the $12 minimum wage in CA
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this is why the whole debate on girls going pro at an early age goes no where for me. When my DD was an infant in my arms I did not look lovingly at her and say, “my dream for you is lot go pro at 18 and makeless than minimum wage “. Maybe the salaries are better overseas but being excited for the NWSL draft is more like having a fun hobby that pays you a small amount for a few years and then you go get a real career.

 

[MacDre]

[QUOTE="eastbaysoccer, post: 376177,

The NWSL league maximum salary for 2020 has jumped to $50,000 and the league minimum salary has increased to $20,000. The 2019 season saw a maximum salary cap of $46,200 and a minimum of $16,538.

working at amazon is $15 per hour or $31,200 annualized.

20,000 broken down is $9.62 per hour. which is less than the $12 minimum wage in CA

this is why the whole debate on girls going pro at an early age goes no where for me. When my DD was an infant in my arms I did not look lovingly at her and say, “my dream for you is lot go pro at 18 and makeless than minimum wage “. Maybe the salaries are better overseas but being excited for the NWSL draft is more like having a fun hobby that pays you a small amount for a few years and then you go get a real career.
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I think I agree with you for the most part because I think the ladies need to get paid better. But I also think the NWSL compensation is better than what has been stated.

What other careers can a 18-22 year old began that pay more than $20,000, w/free housing, free food, & free car (negotiable), for working 8 months annually (April-November)?

 

[crush]

[QUOTE="eastbaysoccer, post: 376177,

The NWSL league maximum salary for 2020 has jumped to $50,000 and the league minimum salary has increased to $20,000. The 2019 season saw a maximum salary cap of $46,200 and a minimum of $16,538.

working at amazon is $15 per hour or $31,200 annualized.

20,000 broken down is $9.62 per hour. which is less than the $12 minimum wage in CA

this is why the whole debate on girls going pro at an early age goes no where for me. When my DD was an infant in my arms I did not look lovingly at her and say, “my dream for you is lot go pro at 18 and makeless than minimum wage “. Maybe the salaries are better overseas but being excited for the NWSL draft is more like having a fun hobby that pays you a small amount for a few years and then you go get a real career.
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Yes, we know 43. Most parents dreams are for their kids to go to college, not pro of anything. That's why youth soccer is popular. We should be asking our kids want their dreams are for themselves, not what dads dreams are. I never dreamed of my dd being a pro anything. I dream whatever she does she has fun and loves what she's doing.

 

[Soccer43]

Housing has to be provided but what type of housing is not clear. I have heard of players living 4 to an apartment or living with host families. It is not like they give you rent $ to go get your own place. And food does not seem to be included and not necessarily a car is provided. I don’t have personal knowledge, just what I read online so would be curious to hear from an actual player on a current NWSL team about the financial realities.

 

[tjinaz]

Housing has to be provided but what type of housing is not clear. I have heard of players living 4 to an apartment or living with host families. It is not like they give you rent $ to go get your own place. And food does not seem to be included and not necessarily a car is provided. I don’t have personal knowledge, just what I read online so would be curious to hear from an actual player on a current NWSL team about the financial realities.

And the sad thing is the teams still lose money. At what point do you just say without some sort of subsidy this league folds like a cheap suit. I understand equal opportunity and all but eventually the league has to stand or fall on its own merits.

Womens soccer far from equal

 

[outside!]

And the sad thing is the teams still lose money. At what point do you just say without some sort of subsidy this league folds like a cheap suit. I understand equal opportunity and all but eventually the league has to stand or fall on its own merits.

Womens soccer far from equal

Maybe when men's professional sports are entirely self supporting without any taxpayer dollars for stadiums and have paid back with interest all of the public money they have received?

 

[gkrent]

Housing has to be provided but what type of housing is not clear. I have heard of players living 4 to an apartment or living with host families. It is not like they give you rent $ to go get your own place. And food does not seem to be included and not necessarily a car is provided. I don’t have personal knowledge, just what I read online so would be curious to hear from an actual player on a current NWSL team about the financial realities.

The women I know that are 1st/2nd year in NWSL need part time jobs. Sometimes living with roommates or host families.

 

[msoccerm]

When my DD was an infant in my arms I did not look lovingly at her and say, “my dream for you is lot go pro at 18 and makeless than minimum wage “.

But what if your kid was really good and loved playing and agents were contacting her or she was getting invites to the U19 national team - would you say to her "no". Or would you support her dreams and let her gain invaluable life experience. I think the difference is that this very rarely happens in the US, but it happens all over the world because players can start playing professionally at 15 or 16.

I don't care if my daughter starts her 9-5 career at 30 instead of 22.

 

[dad4]

Maybe when men's professional sports are entirely self supporting without any taxpayer dollars for stadiums and have paid back with interest all of the public money they have received?

Men’s sports get those stadium deals because they have the support of millions of people.

Other than a few individual sports, women’s sports do not have the fan base. Sorry.

Buy some WPSL or NWSL tickets. Grab a beer and some grub while you watch the game. Support your team.

But don't ask people to pretend that Marta has more fans than Messi. Maybe she should, but that's another question.

 

[MacDre]

Grab a beer and some grub while you watch the game. Support your team.

Club Tijuana! The only professional women’s futbol club in California.

 

[Kicker4Life]

Club Tijuana! The only professional women’s futbol club in California.

Until Angel FC takes the field in 2022

 

[MacDre]

Until Angel FC takes the field in 2022

Sounds like a rivalry in the making. Any word about which stadium they’re going to play at yet?

 

[Kicker4Life]

Sounds like a rivalry in the making. Any word about which stadium they’re going to play at yet?

The Banc....They will share with LAFC

 

[eastbaysoccer]

The women I know that are 1st/2nd year in NWSL need part time jobs. Sometimes living with roommates or host families.

does the NWSL give health benefits? 401K, Dental, vision, etc. Factor that in and that's another 20k.
Unless you are Marta or another big name player that can secure endorsements it's NOT worth it financially.

IMO if you play pro, it's a 1-2 year career overseas so you can travel and come back to USA.