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MacDre said:
If we are talking specifically about Club Tijuana, I think the level of play will be superior. Xolo’s motto is “a team w/o borders” so any level of play possible in Socal is possible at Xolo’s. For example, Xolo’s, ECNL, and GA will be competing for the same top players and Xolo’s have the advantage because they’re a pro team. I think several girls are going to be interested in playing in a U17 Liga MX “minor league/junior varsity type program”. Training and facilities are excellent. I recall folks having similar reservations about the level of play when OM moved from Socal to Portland. But, I think it’s a different ball of wax when these young players are training with the first team and it’s hard to compare and contrast to a pay to play system that has to win for marketing purposes.

I noticed one of the clubs defeated by LAG was OL. OL is considered one of the best and highest paying women’s team in the world. Maybe LAG beat OL & Athletico because they were better. Maybe LAG won because their focus was on winning instead of development.

I think US teams have traditionally been more physical than Mexican and Spanish teams. I can assure you going forward fitness will not be an issue for the Mexican teams. So if Tigres beat Houston Dash and Houston Dash won the NWSL challenge cup, I think the level of play is good and will only improve with foreign players and investment into the league.
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I’m pretty sure all of the teams present at that event were focused on winning.

What kind of a contract gets signed at the U17 level? Is there compensation?What is the average player salary for a 1st team player for Xolas and the rest of the league?
 
sdb said:
I’m pretty sure all of the teams present at that event were focused on winning.

What kind of a contract gets signed at the U17 level? Is there compensation?What is the average player salary for a 1st team player for Xolas and the rest of the league?
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I don’t know. My kid just turned 13 so that hasn’t been my focus. I do know that everything is negotiable, Liga MX Femenil has no salary cap, and the Xolo’s have a billionaire owner.

But, let’s assume a kid doesn’t get any money, they’ll learn Spanish, travel, and get great training while studying in San Diego. Seems like a win/win situation for the players selected.
 
sdb said:
I’m pretty sure all of the teams present at that event were focused on winning.
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I am sure all the teams present were focused on winning too. When I say a team is focused on development, I mean they are preparing players for the first team. For example, in my players situation, she’s 13 playing on a U17 team. I’m sure there’s a 16 year old somewhere around that could do a better job than my 13 year old can currently but winning now is not important. Xolo’s would rather lose a game playing my 13 in hopes that she’s prepared for the first team instead of playing the 16 year old to win today.
 
El Clasico said:
Got it. ...and I don't actually disagree. I was being a little tongue and cheeky. If you review 10 years or so of my posts, I have never been a believer in the MLS model at any level. They are their own worst enemy so I throw in a cheap shot when I can. Sometimes sarcastic and sometimes not.
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I agree with you. It’s funny you think in most respects I differ with you in many conversations. It in most and many I agree with you.
 
crush said:
Are you still hearing my voice at night bro? I'm sorry you hear me loud & clear and you think of me and Dre late at night on your vacation in Indian Wells. I hope your golfing too. Every time you use your driver, think of me, The Crush and crush the hell out of the ball for me. When you putt, think about how my dd was treated by assholes. After my three year investigation, she is not the only one who was lied to. It's interesting that you and EOTL make fun of my dd. BTW, she earn everything she got from the Doc who had the pick back in September 2017. I think if she was able to to get the recruits phone number to the head master at the US Soccer Training Center, then she would have earned it. I'm proud of her for standing up to those who lie, cheat, fat shame, yell, scream, manipulate and behave very, very naughty around young teenage girls. That is 100% why the GDA failed. GDA got what they earned and please, do not blame it on Rona. That league's leadership was full of liars and cheaters. Do you not see that by now? I'm looking pass 2020 now.

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Hearing your voice. HS. Great ass pull. If I did I’d respond to your crap daily. Your an an idiot we all know it. What’s funny is I can help you. But I am not. It’s a waste. This is exactly why your message is drowned out. You miss everything. I am not speaking off your DD. But you do incessantly. Stop it. We’re all done. You did not like DA because no one kissed your ass. So stop it. And yes, I told you to F’off when you attacked my kids . F’off. It’s funny everyone is trying to help you but yet you drown it out.
 
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MacDre said:
I agree but the MLS seems to think there are problems with college soccer. I think if things are bad on the men’s side, then surely things are worse on the women’s side. I’m at a loss as to how anyone can possibly suggest that women have a superior environment to men anywhere in our society whether it be soccer, Silicon Valley, or Wall Street because women ALWAYS “get the short end of the stick.”

I think you have to embrace the MLS message if you want to see development in college soccer. Admitting that there is a problem with the system is the first step to fixing the problem.

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On the men’s is side of MLS is far worst. I am an observer of it and know products of it. They were all teammates of mine from MLS. And have watched it unfold.
 
LASTMAN14 said:
I agree with you. It’s funny you think in most respects I differ with you in many conversations. It in most and many I agree with you.
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I think we share the same outlook on a lot of things. Sometimes we may disagree on the path to get there. I believed GDA was designed to fail. Boys DA is, and always has been, a failure and of course, in the debate about which club was better, I leaned towards Beach over LAG. But we both look at the same big picture with most things. And when I do comment to you or to your posts, it is not to be taken in a disrespectful way as that would not be my intention. Quite the contrary.

Here's to a brighter, better New Year!!
 
LASTMAN14 said:
Hearing your voice. HS. Great ass pull. If I did I’d respond to your crap daily. Your an an idiot we all know it. What’s funny is I can help you. But I am not. It’s a waste. This is exactly why your message is drowned out. You miss everything. I am not speaking off your DD. But you do incessantly. Stop it. We’re all done. You did not like DA because no one kissed your ass. So stop it. And yes, I told you to F’off when you attacked my kids . F’off. It’s funny everyone is trying to help you but yet you drown it out.
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Quotes from the last man I would ever want help from. You have some serious issues bro. I would seek help, MOO!!

LM: "Hearing your voice, HS. Great ass pull"
Crush: "Thank you"
LM: "If I did I'd respond to your crap daily"
Crush: "You must be hearing my voice lately loud & clear now"
LM: "Your an an Idiot we ALL know it."
Crush: "That's not what my PMs are telling me. Are you referring to ALL the voices in your head?"
LM: "You know what's funny?"
Crush: "what is so funny Lastman?"
LM: "I can help you"
Crush: "Now that is funny. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Do you honestly think I would ask you for help?"
LM: "But I am not. It's a waste of time."
Crush: "I agree"
LM: "Stop it." ((god, please tell him to stop it!)
Crush: "No!!!!!"
LM: "We're ALL done."
Crush: "Good. Tell the voices in your head to stop it! I'm not stopping FYI!!! Tell all your voices in your head that crush is never leaving. Go back to ignoring Crush if you keep hearing my voice. It will be better for your high blood pressure and drinking"
LM: "You did not like the GDA"
Crush: "That is true"
LM: "Because no one kissed your ass"
Crush: "No, it's because I did not kiss the ass of the Doc and kiss his ring. My dd did not get the recruits mom's cell number and did not earn what she was working so hard to earn. Nice try btw trying to do the old switch. That is why my PM is mostly positive because folks who know me know if I kissed ass I would be quiet as a mouse. I never kiss ass and trust me, I am the last man looking for someone to kiss my ass. I do know a number of dads who did kiss some ass and it shows on their nose.
LM: "So, stop it" ((god, please someone shut this idiot up))
Crush: "Never will I stop. Ignore me dude"
LM: "I told you to Fu*k off"
Crush: "Happy News Year"
LM: "You attacked my kids"
Crush: "I have no idea who you are or who your kids are. You need serious help. I can help you and I will if you ask me for help. No human is a waste of time where I come from. Come up to LA tomorrow. Helping feed the homeless with my pal Bruno.
LM: "Fu*k Off!!!"
Crush: "Happy New Years"
LM: "It's funny"
Crush: "Ha ha ha ha"
LM: "Everyone is trying to help you"
Crush: "I didnt ask for help. I came here to ask questions about that failed GDA league, why no hs soccer for public schools kids if in GDA but the rich private schools kids got a waiver. Also touched on pay to play and pay for access to things people want. Lastly, Doc was bad news bro. I even made Soccerhelper avatar to help parents not fall for the lies that I fell for. What's fuuny to me Lastman is I can really help you. You're not a waste of a human and not an idiot. I love you and I wish you nothing but the best for you and your kids.
 
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Scott m Shurson said:
You did and I wish her the very best. Just hope you're too smart for Kool Aid.
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Being identified for a pro-team and for a national team are 2 different things. And yes, in other countries on the female side there will often be a very young player or 2 training with the senior team. He said she was ID'd at 10 - not on the team at 10 so why not. Most countries compete in the Womens U17 World Cup - so I can tell you for a fact that players are ID'd from 12 or 13 for player pools for those squads. They obviously don't get it right all of the time which is why you often see quite a few different players for the U20 World Cup squads.
 
sdb said:
What kind of a contract gets signed at the U17 level? Is there compensation?What is the average player salary for a 1st team player for Xolas and the rest of the league?
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Of course there would be compensation for anyone playing on the senior team - it would be at least enough to cover costs or no one would play. To not lose eligibility for college soccer - the key is to NOT have an agent and NOT actually earn a living from playing.
 
msoccerm said:
Being identified for a pro-team and for a national team are 2 different things. And yes, in other countries on the female side there will often be a very young player or 2 training with the senior team. He said she was ID'd at 10 - not on the team at 10 so why not. Most countries compete in the Womens U17 World Cup - so I can tell you for a fact that players are ID'd from 12 or 13 for player pools for those squads. They obviously don't get it right all of the time which is why you often see quite a few different players for the U20 World Cup squads.
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My dd scrimmaged against OM all the time when she was 10 and she was all that, trust me. Verbal to NC as 6th grader and then youngest pro ever. She is one of the most gifted and skilled players her age. My bro in Hawaii knows a dad with a very good player that is home schooled and is going pro over in Spain at 15. Wife is from Spain. I think it's awesome and I wish Dre's kid success.
 
msoccerm said:
Of course there would be compensation for anyone playing on the senior team - it would be at least enough to cover costs or no one would play. To not lose eligibility for college soccer - the key is to NOT have an agent and NOT actually earn a living from playing.
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It would be cool if the girls could play both pro and college. Paid to be pro and free college to help school win :) That is a win and a win
 
MacDre said:
I noticed one of the clubs defeated by LAG was OL. OL is considered one of the best and highest paying women’s team in the world. Maybe LAG beat OL & Athletico because they were better. Maybe LAG won because their focus was on winning instead of development.
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American teams know how to win tournaments. Doesn't mean those players are developing and gaining the technical and tactical skills to play anything other than mid-range Div 1 soccer when they are older. But most parents don't care.

So good to see a parent taking a different path and doing what it takes so that their player is on the path to playing professionally. I don't know the quality of the Mexican leagues, but U17 would have to better than her own age group and the coaching would be better.
 
crush said:
It would be cool if the girls could play both pro and college. Paid to be pro and free college to help school win :) That is a win and a win
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It'd be impossible to do both at the same time. However, a lot (if not all except maybe Canada) of international players have played pro prior to coming to the US .
 
msoccerm said:
American teams know how to win tournaments. Doesn't mean those players are developing and gaining the technical and tactical skills to play anything other than mid-range Div 1 soccer when they are older. But most parents don't care.

So good to see a parent taking a different path and doing what it takes so that their player is on the path to playing professionally. I don't know the quality of the Mexican leagues, but U17 would have to better than her own age group and the coaching would be better.
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I tried to look at pro for my dd m soccer, but man, people made fun of me. My dd had it in here at 13 but...........it's water under the bridge now. I do applaud Dre and even Luis for promoting the option to their dd. We need some big money players to throw some money at the pro and college game. Help the girls. Look at the money Congress is tossing on the trash.
 
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