It’s not a minor annoyance. And they don’t help very much. Very little cost/little benefit= not worth it. If you are still scared after getting your vaccine sure wear one.
Other than you and some unqualified internet fools, who says masks are not effective?
We haven't stopped air travel between states. If you want the numbers to stay down you cancel all flights for 45 days leaving the state starting November 15th. That alone will see a better result then wearing 25 masks and closing restraunts and small business.
Then they’ll be another variant and then the flu will surge up again. You aren’t going to get to 100% safe. And masks do have costs: they aren’t free (you should be throwing them away instead of reusing them), harm social interactions, make it harder to breathe and create environmental waste. The proof is around the world that they don’t work: county curves between those implementing mask mandates and those not are near identical and no where around the world has been able to control this. I know you desperately need to cling to the idea we can control things and that you’ll be safe but it’s not realistic
I 100% agree with you- but, at this juncture stopping air travel would start an absolute shit storm. We should have done that earlier when people weren't so lockdown fatigued.
It also won’t do any good if the border is open
Yet another Grace assertion that pretends to disprove peer reviewed epidemiology studies?
By accelerating other health and well-being issues. Nonsense!
The experts have been wrong about everything, as have people that have been clinging to the belief that we can control this. What’s worse is you guys are constantly goal post moving: 2 weeks, 6 weeks, 3 months, through the holidays, til elderly vaccinated, til everyone vaccinated, years. It’s enough. Get that you are scared but stop it.
Is there any data about college or pro sports that allowed reduced capacity fan attendance causing outbreaks? If the answer is no, then we need to move forward with allowing fans. If they answer is yes, then that's a different story. The SuperBowl had 25K fans (yes, some were vaccinated), fans were allowed at some college and pro football games as well as fall college soccer and some MLS games. There should be plenty of data to pull from. Then there can be an informed decision made.
still safer in your own car and driving to Florida for Christmas and avoiding packed airports.
The core of what you just said:
It takes time and cooperation to get the stadium evidence you are asking for. If anyone has it, it's probably from the French games last summer.
Shouldn't the data from the fall be available by now? It seems like using contact tracing, we should have a good idea of outbreaks within 30 days of an event. Right? And if it's not worth studying at 25% capacity with masks, then it's safe enough to move forward starting with outdoor sports and then moving indoors.
just to be clear, are you saying 5 days of in person learning for kids is a major threat to the long term health of the economy? or not having the kids in school is a major threat to the health of the economy?
*People with actual training have studied this, and they often disagree with each other and change their positions.
Should be, but isn't. Our contact tracing stinks.
Closed schools, over time, are a major threat to the long term health of the economy.
