Your objection is noted.
1. It was in NY,
2. The SCOTUS text includes "single out houses of worship for especially harsh treatment." That doesn't apply here.
Your objection is noted.
To enhance the effectiveness of the message, they should deliver it in email form to all constituents from a Nigerian Prince asking for their help. That works every time.This is the most hilarious stay at home order that's just been issued for the city of Los Angeles. It prohibits, under penalty of misdeamenor, leaving your house or traveling by foot, bike, public transport, car or scooter. It then exempts the homeless. It then exempts a long line of business activities. Such business activities include hard ware stores, piercing shops, tanning shops, dog groomers, tattoo parlors, bike repair shops, taxis, and retail shops (at reduced capapcity) It exempts outdoor worship (which is now clearly unconstitutional since this is the very scenario addressed in the SCOTUS case...they could have done a percentage cap but chose to ignore it). It pretty much keeps the outdoor recreation sites open with a handful of tweaks here and there (sorry water poloers). Of course film and TV production remain open. Zoos are o.k. Pro sports and day camps still allowed. It would be funny if it weren't so sad. Basically it's a plea to do the one thing they can't control: private socialization....and it takes them pages to do it. History might very well record this as one of the most ludicrous documents to emerge from the pandemic. Make sure to tell your kids they can't go outside scooting in the city of LA...they might get charged with a misdemeanor.
1. It was in NY,
2. The SCOTUS text includes "single out houses of worship for especially harsh treatment." That doesn't apply here.
Errrr. Common law operates on the basis of precedents. Precedents can operate as black letter, analogy or persuasive. This is black letter....exactly the same situation with a laundry list of exceptions but not for houses of worship which is nonessential. To enforce a house of worship would have to sue. The lower court is bound to uphold the precedent. If they don’t it’s reversible error that will be overturned by a higher court.
If I were going to make the argument to distinguish id make the especially harsh treatment language you cited. Your understanding is basic but you missed your calling (shoulda been a lawyer...it takes a certain not normal personality as well...you might a been gifted). NY was caught making a lot of harsh statements. But the pc doesn’t rest on that. Another argument might be widespread access to outdoor services but unless la city is handing out park permits for these that’s pretty hard to argue too.
One needs to acknowledge what criteria the projections were based on to get a realistic analysis. Making up ones own criteria to judge the projections on is simply spin.I'd prefer they fix the projections, but every time team reality has attempted to do that they've been attacked as heretics. Building government policy time after time on bad projections is not good governance. So yes, given the choices we're left with, I'd prefer we made policy without the use of projections. I know...I know...shocking and inconceivable to a math teacher divorced from practical applications in the real world. Bad math is worse than no math.
That’s not how these things operate legally. It’s almost the exact situation. Since it was a pc if it wasn’t nearly identical this argument would be persuasive but it wasn’t. The only real differences are: 1. A lack of negative statements re worship, 2. Dining is closed and 3. Protests outside are subject to social distancing rules (which if the government doesnt enforce or give worship equal access will cause other problem). It’s why the county order is differentYou can ignore the differences for the sake of argument, but that won't make them go away.
Webster's word of the year is "pandemic". California's word of the year should be "arbitrary".This is the most hilarious stay at home order that's just been issued for the city of Los Angeles. It prohibits, under penalty of misdeamenor, leaving your house or traveling by foot, bike, public transport, car or scooter. It then exempts the homeless. It then exempts a long line of business activities. Such business activities include hard ware stores, piercing shops, tanning shops, dog groomers, tattoo parlors, bike repair shops, taxis, and retail shops (at reduced capapcity) It exempts outdoor worship (which is now clearly unconstitutional since this is the very scenario addressed in the SCOTUS case...they could have done a percentage cap but chose to ignore it). It pretty much keeps the outdoor recreation sites open with a handful of tweaks here and there (sorry water poloers). Of course film and TV production remain open. Zoos are o.k. Pro sports and day camps still allowed. It would be funny if it weren't so sad. Basically it's a plea to do the one thing they can't control: private socialization....and it takes them pages to do it. History might very well record this as one of the most ludicrous documents to emerge from the pandemic. Make sure to tell your kids they can't go outside scooting in the city of LA...they might get charged with a misdemeanor.
More policy that ignores children's welfare coming out of CA. Is it any wonder that SF has a dearth of children and an excess of things we want our children to avoid?Webster's word of the year is "pandemic". California's word of the year should be "arbitrary".
My daughter's dance studio served with a cease and desist and closed. Strip clubs open.
That’s not how these things operate legally. It’s almost the exact situation. Since it was a pc if it wasn’t nearly identical this argument would be persuasive but it wasn’t. The only real differences are: 1. A lack of negative statements re worship, 2. Dining is closed and 3. Protests outside are subject to social distancing rules (which if the government doesnt enforce or give worship equal access will cause other problem). It’s why the county order is different
In order to use the NY SCOTUS decision as precedent, one must show that the two situations are equivalent. Just because both mention churches is not enough.
Strip clubs are not dance establishments. They are bars which happen to have naked women exercising their first amendment right to free speech.Webster's word of the year is "pandemic". California's word of the year should be "arbitrary".
My daughter's dance studio served with a cease and desist and closed. Strip clubs open.
Well they got a judge to believe that but c'mon now. Explain to me how my daughter dancing (for no compensation) is not free speech and a nude dancer (for compensation) is free speech. Actually don't explain, my mind is numb already.They are bars which happen to have naked women exercising their first amendment right to free speech.
The curves are the same shape, but the red line is significantly higher. Total area under the curve is about 1/3 higher. Deaths are about 50% hogher.Texas and California have almost identical per cap curves despite different gov policies
Just claim you don't need a card and shouldn't be required to show one.Meanwhile here's the vaccination cards that will be issued. Hope they don't expect people to keep those somewhere safe to board a bus or go in a store. Most people can't even hold onto their Starbucks reward cards. After a few days in my purse that thing is trashed. Shouldn't there be an app for tha?
The curves are the same shape, but the red line is significantly higher. Total area under the curve is about 1/3 higher. Deaths are about 50% hogher.
If anything, it’s a good argument for masks. Texas has kept a lot of things open, but they have had a statewide mask mandate since July 3. Maybe masks are the solution to everything, after all.![]()
What? It is disingenuous to actually look up the area under a curve instead of handwaving about the shape? Those two curves appear similar, but one has 4/3 the area of the other.Being disinegenous again. If anything, it stands for the proposition that with all the restrictions on schools, youth sports, worship, businesses, and masks, this is the best that those restrictions do, for all the costs (notably on kids) imposed by California.
Or, get your vaccine when it’s your turn, and stop complaining about stupid little things like a card.Just claim you don't need a card and shouldn't be required to show one.
That I believe is the argument used by one party as it relates to voting.
I am wondering why I should take a vaccine when my risk factor is minimal.Or, get your vaccine when it’s your turn, and stop complaining about stupid little things like a card.
We have a world wide depression and a pandemic with over a million and a half people dead, and you’re worried that you might have to carry a piece of paper for 3 months.
Places that serve alcohol with on site parking, for vehicles the patrons will drive away in, should go the way of the horse and buggy.Strip clubs are not dance establishments. They are bars which happen to have naked women exercising their first amendment right to free speech.
I agree that strips clubs should be closed, but you can’t do that without also closing the rest of the bars.
If the strip clubs are open but banned from serving food and drink, then it gets more interesting.