Bad News Thread

Scott m Shurson said:
Yes, I do believe in more money on incarceration, but cemeteries and not prisons. Why? Because I’m tired of people, doing it the right way, being forced to suffer, compromise and otherwise deal with crime. And blaming police, or making excuses that XYZ criminal is a victim because his father wasn’t around, or his 3rd grade teacher didn’t inspire him, is bullshit. We all had choices to make.

So we agree on your 1st two paragraphs but I still don’t see any tangible solutions from you. Or is that just me being obtuse?
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Not obtuse, just purposely provocative now with the "cemeteries and not prisons" trope. We certainly do all have choices, for some those are easy to make and few in number, for others, not so much so.
 
watfly said:
With all due respect you're putting a very generous spin on "defund the police". To quote AOC:

“Defunding police means defunding police,” Ms. Ocasio-Cortez said. “It does not mean budget tricks or funny math.”

Now I'm pretty sure you don't want to be defined by AOC, but there are many liberals with significant influence who mean "defund" when they say "defund". I agree with you that throwing money at police doesn't solve the problem, its like throwing money at schools without accountability. But taking money away from the police certainly is counter productive. Some good faith reforms and better accountability and transparency is where we need to start. Bad cops need to be off the street for the benefit of all Americans regardless of race.
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I don't pay any attention to AOC.
 
whatithink said:
Not obtuse, just purposely provocative now with the "cemeteries and not prisons" trope. We certainly do all have choices, for some those are easy to make and few in number, for others, not so much so.
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Thats not provocative. Why should taxpayers fund convicts? Who pays your rent? Who buys your food? Who keeps your lights on? Who guarantees you medical care within 24 hours? Who paid for your college degree?

Maybe if these animals had to earn their keep like the rest of us, they’d be incentivized to find another career path. If not, there’s a ton of open land available and all you need is a shovel. Problem solved. Society is better off and you get to keep more of your money.
 
Scott m Shurson said:
Thats not provocative. Why should taxpayers fund convicts? Who pays your rent? Who buys your food? Who keeps your lights on? Who guarantees you medical care within 24 hours? Who paid for your college degree?

Maybe if these animals had to earn their keep like the rest of us, they’d be incentivized to find another career path. If not, there’s a ton of open land available and all you need is a shovel. Problem solved. Society is better off and you get to keep more of your money.
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Funny man, so you are going for a zero tolerance regime. So what's the rule again, if the sentence involves prison, then we just take them out back and off them? Is that any crime that involves prison, or just for some crimes (or some people)?
 
whatithink said:
Funny man, so you are going for a zero tolerance regime. So what's the rule again, if the sentence involves prison, then we just take them out back and off them? Is that any crime that involves prison, or just for some crimes (or some people)?
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No, I’m going for the “15th time in jail?” Regime. You’ve shown your character. Good luck in the next life.

I know that will frustrate all the dummies that still believe there are people in prison for smoking weed, but the world is full of idiots.
 
Scott m Shurson said:
No, I’m going for the “15th time in jail?” Regime. You’ve shown your character. Good luck in the next life.

I know that will frustrate all the dummies that still believe there are people in prison for smoking weed, but the world is full of idiots.
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Wow, 15 times. You are a patient and tolerant individual.
 
Scott m Shurson said:
No, I’m going for the “15th time in jail?” Regime. You’ve shown your character. Good luck in the next life.

I know that will frustrate all the dummies that still believe there are people in prison for smoking weed, but the world is full of idiots.
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LMAO, I just realized that you've taken exception to me characterizing your position as a "regime" ... in reply to you, where you actually say

Scott m Shurson said:
If not, there’s a ton of open land available and all you need is a shovel. Problem solved.
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Thanks - I needed a good laugh.
 
Grace T. said:
www.wsj.com

WHO Recommends Against Moderna, Pfizer Vaccines for Most Pregnant Women

The World Health Organization gave new guidance about Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine this week, recommending generally against its use for most pregnant people, echoing similar guidance for the Pfizer and BioNTech shot.
www.wsj.com www.wsj.com
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Also, I'm beginning to see a trickle of statements from a handful of large companies to their office worker employees about the vaccine. Most are saying they won't mandate it (no doubt because of the EU authorization) but even when vaccines are available and return to the office don't expect a return to normal (e.g., masks, travel/convention limits, restrictions on meetings and gatherings, illness screenings). I think this complicates things too because obviously now pregnant women may not be able to get vaccinated.
 
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