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Newsom is a moron. He and Cuomo are in a race for worst governor....
www.nbclosangeles.com

Newsom Defends California Business Climate, Status of the Rich

Gov. Gavin Newsom forcefully pushed back Friday on criticisms that California is becoming unfriendly for business, pointing to “all the new billionaires” created by initial public offerings and noting that its richest people are “doing pretty damn well.” The Democratic governor’s comments came...
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Grace T. said:
Newsom is a moron. He and Cuomo are in a race for worst governor....
www.nbclosangeles.com

Newsom Defends California Business Climate, Status of the Rich

Gov. Gavin Newsom forcefully pushed back Friday on criticisms that California is becoming unfriendly for business, pointing to “all the new billionaires” created by initial public offerings and noting that its richest people are “doing pretty damn well.” The Democratic governor’s comments came...
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When we are looking at a president that tried to overthrow our government, and may still do worse, you worry about that? Lol! WTF?
 
It's beginning to look like my friend was right and LA County peaked just before New Years. It's hard to say for sure given the testing drops and surges during the holidays. The daily positives top out at 12-29 at almost 27K but testing also tops off that day. The percentage of positive tests though has been dropping, having peaked at 1-1 with 23.9%. The 7 day daily average (at least for those days we have complete figures) is still rising. We'll know more at the end of this week as the remaining days of last week get updated and as we see what happens this week.
 
Grace T. said:
For the other disaster state, it looks like NY is deliberately trying to kill seniors at this point. My parents still use AOL, can barely email or answer online forms, and they want them to upload attachments and scan stuff.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1348464494108954626

If California does something similar, they'll probably just give it to my kids to figure out.
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Ugh. Is this the only way to get a vaccine? If so, I'd have to think this process would perpetuate the underserved communities being underserved for vaccine access as well. What's wrong with just using a driver's license with a photo on it and an insurance card if you have one?
 
Grace T. said:
For the other disaster state, it looks like NY is deliberately trying to kill seniors at this point. My parents still use AOL, can barely email or answer online forms, and they want them to upload attachments and scan stuff.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1348464494108954626

If California does something similar, they'll probably just give it to my kids to figure out.
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Lol... a 51 question online test to get a vaccine.

The problem isn't so much the Gov in this case. Race relations are a huge political issue in NYC, and from what I've heard there was concern that if they just focused on seniors (who are disproportionately white) that is would be unfair to other minority groups. So they came up with a way to make sure that the distribution of the vaccine reflected the diversity of the city. And it's a diverse city- so this is no small task as the 51 questions indicates.

So yes, not that many people are getting vaccinated with all the hoops city officials are jumping through- but the lucky few that do get it aren't just old white people.
 
tenacious said:
Race relations are a huge political issue in NYC, and from what I've heard there was concern that if they just focused on seniors (who are disproportionately white) that is would be unfair to other minority groups.
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That is because the politicians make it so.

They should focus on the most vulnerable. And if in NYC that happens to be a lot of white people so be it. They are the at risk group. If the at risk group in NYC happened to be mainly Puerto Rican...they should be first in line. Or if Asian, etc.

The thing to do is to focus on the AGE groups at risk AND the individuals who have health issues that put them at risk.

The fact that politicians there an in other places wonder about the racial makeup of the at risk groups is telling and BS.

Give it to the people who need it.
 
Grace T. said:
torontosun.com

Canadian expert's research finds lockdown harms are 10 times greater than benefits

Dr. Ari Joffe is a specialist in pediatric infectious diseases at the Stollery Children’s Hospital in Edmonton and a Clinical Professor in the Department of Pediatr…
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Lockdown works if it is truly a lockdown. What we had in California is not a lockdown. It is just selective closure of schools, restaurant and other small businesses and a lot of work from home.

A true lockdown is when people are only allowed out of their homes on certain days. Police roadblocks to fine people who are out and about who should not be out etc. etc. which means also effective enforcement exist.

Wuhan did a real lockdown and they were back to normal after 3 months. People were going around without any mask since summer.
 
Grace T. said:
torontosun.com

Canadian expert's research finds lockdown harms are 10 times greater than benefits

Dr. Ari Joffe is a specialist in pediatric infectious diseases at the Stollery Children’s Hospital in Edmonton and a Clinical Professor in the Department of Pediatr…
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So if I understand correctly he looked at the DATA and adjusted his opinion of what to do. What a novel idea.

"First, initial data falsely suggested that the infection fatality rate was up to 2-3%, that over 80% of the population would be infected, and modelling suggested repeated lockdowns would be necessary. But emerging data showed that the median infection fatality rate is 0.23%, that the median infection fatality rate in people under 70 years old is 0.05%, and that the high-risk group is older people especially those with severe co-morbidities."

"Third, a formal cost-benefit analysis of different responses to the pandemic was not done by government or public health experts. Initially, I simply assumed that lockdowns to suppress the pandemic were the best approach. But policy decisions on public health should require a cost-benefit analysis. Since lockdowns are a public health intervention, aiming to improve the population wellbeing, we must consider both benefits of lockdowns, and costs of lockdowns on the population wellbeing. Once I became more informed, I realized that lockdowns cause far more harm than they prevent."

Now...where have I heard this talked about before?

"We should focus on protecting people at high risk: people hospitalized or in nursing homes (e.g., universal masking in hospitals reduced transmission markedly), in crowded conditions (e.g., homeless shelters, prisons, large gatherings), and 70 years and older (especially with severe comorbidities) – don’t lock down everyone, regardless of their individual risk."

By the way I notice the pro lockdown/pro mask people have become very quiet in recent weeks as CA has gone south. It is almost as if the preferred solutions have not had the desired affect, and they don't know what to do or say.
 
Grace T. said:
Looks like it will be mandatory for Los Angeles students.....

www.latimes.com

L.A. students must get COVID-19 vaccine when it becomes available for them, Beutner says

L.A. schools Supt. Austin Beutner said students would have to be vaccinated to return to campus once a vaccine is available for them. But that doesn't rule out an earlier return in the meantime.
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Notice the subtle goalshifting...vaccinated teachers might still bring back the virus home. Well, if that's the case then teachers teaching remotely shouldn't be prioritized over 60+.
 
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