Bad News Thread

[Grace T.]

I think regular readers here are familiar with your habit of running away from embarrassing positions with a flurry of false ad hominems.

You say you are not advocating either position, but your thread that refers to Campbell's latest video looks like a claim of victory over dad4.

"cue dad4 freakout in 5 4 3 2 1"

So which is it?

First, you are a liar. From henceforce I will remind you of that constantly. Liar.

Second, I said this was qualified only IF it was true. I personally haven't decided whether Gottlieb is right or the position outlined by Campbell/the UK govt. I said as much originally and since repeatedly. I honestly don't know.

Third, it is pretty self-evident that dad4 is not only afraid of others catching the virus, but that he himself is afraid of getting COVID. The idea, if true, that policy could be that people go out and be exposed to the virus, without masks or NPIS, once vaccinated, would be terrifying to him

Fourth, he illustrated this by his reaction to the video above. He's running from it to keep his faith in tact.

Fifth, have I told you that you are a liar? Because ya are.

 

[espola]

First, you are a liar. From henceforce I will remind you of that constantly. Liar.

Second, I said this was qualified only IF it was true. I personally haven't decided whether Gottlieb is right or the position outlined by Campbell/the UK govt. I said as much originally and since repeatedly. I honestly don't know.

Third, it is pretty self-evident that dad4 is not only afraid of others catching the virus, but that he himself is afraid of getting COVID. The idea, if true, that policy could be that people go out and be exposed to the virus, without masks or NPIS, once vaccinated, would be terrifying to him

Fourth, he illustrated this by his reaction to the video above. He's running from it to keep his faith in tact.

Fifth, have I told you that you are a liar? Because ya are.

Have you given up the Magoo act?

 

[Grace T.]

Have you given up the Magoo act?

I'm not sure whether to be impressed or disappointed in you. I had always assumed you just a nasty fool, but tonight you've crossed over into deliberately mischaracterizing positions, even when it's been pointed out to you. That makes you not a fool, but a liar. So be it....liar.

 

[espola]

I'm not sure whether to be impressed or disappointed in you. I had always assumed you just a nasty fool, but tonight you've crossed over into deliberately mischaracterizing positions, even when it's been pointed out to you. That makes you not a fool, but a liar. So be it....liar.

Would you call this mischaracterizing a position>?

"Third, it is pretty self-evident that dad4 is not only afraid of others catching the virus, but that he himself is afraid of getting COVID. The idea, if true, that policy could be that people go out and be exposed to the virus, without masks or NPIS, once vaccinated, would be terrifying to him

Fourth, he illustrated this by his reaction to the video above. He's running from it to keep his faith in tact."

 

[Grace T.]

Would you call this mischaracterizing a position>?

"Third, it is pretty self-evident that dad4 is not only afraid of others catching the virus, but that he himself is afraid of getting COVID. The idea, if true, that policy could be that people go out and be exposed to the virus, without masks or NPIS, once vaccinated, would be terrifying to him

Fourth, he illustrated this by his reaction to the video above. He's running from it to keep his faith in tact."

Yes, because you ignore 2. Which proves 1 and 5 are true. Liar.

 

[espola]

Yes, because you ignore 2. Which proves 1 and 5 are true. Liar.

I quoted three and four.

 

[Grace T.]

I quoted three and four.

And ignored 2 which makes you a liar, making 1 and 5 correct and making you now a twice liar, liar.

 

[espola]

And ignored 2 which makes you a liar, making 1 and 5 correct and making you now a twice liar, liar.

In case you missed it, we were discussing whether your points 3 and 4 constitute a mischaracterization of Dad4's positions. Are you sticking with those opinions?

 

[dad4]

How? Didn’t they just say that vaccinated people can spread the virus like “chickenpox”?!?!?

I think they said that the virus spreads like chickenpox among nonvaccinated.

I haven’t seen anything about whether Delta can spread in a vaccinated community. Martha’s Vineyard is giving us a nice natural experiment this month.

It has now been two weeks since the private jets flew in on August 07 to seed the island with Delta. They had a one day peak of 28 cases just after the party, but it’s been inching down since then. 17 cases a couple days ago.

So, slow decline, on a very wealthy island with a 95% vaccination rate.

 

[Grace T.]

In case you missed it, we were discussing whether your points 3 and 4 constitute a mischaracterization of Dad4's positions. Are you sticking with those opinions?

4 points to his reaction to the video. We've all seen it. It's in evidence.

3 is an opinion which I welcome him to correct, and would take the correction at face value, because unlike you, he's shown himself to be honorable and at least so far not a liar....which your neglect of 2 makes you.

 

[espola]

4 points to his reaction to the video. We've all seen it. It's in evidence.

3 is an opinion which I welcome him to correct, and would take the correction at face value, because unlike you, he's shown himself to be honorable and at least so far not a liar....which your neglect of 2 makes you.

Your opinion is not evidence,

You were actually doing better with the Magoo stuff, when you didn't have to worry about trying to be honest and logical.

 

[Grace T.]

Your opinion is not evidence,

You were actually doing better with the Magoo stuff, when you didn't have to worry about trying to be honest and logical.

Hah....look at the liar talk about honesty!!!

 

[EvilGoalie 21]

Let me guess, some place with good NPI and low case rates in the past is now experiencing an outbreak.

And Hound can comment that some place with huge past case rates now looks good.

Then we all can feel really clever.

It happens all over. You can see it in the standard 2 variable differential equation for this:

P' = k (1-P-S)(P-S)
S' = c( P-S)

As S goes up, P' goes down. ( When recovered population rises, current infections fall. )

Diff EQ on the soccer forum! Am I tired of this or not? I don't know. Not as fun as it was back in the Climate and Weather days, though. But always interesting. By the way, not only are you supposed to be scared, but if I followed it correctly your world has now been completely rocked and you're supposed to be doing a Balfour burn it to the ground kind of freak-out. So I was doing some other stuff on the side just sort of waiting for the drama. It was initially 5-4-3-2-1, and you were supposed to be on. But I think now we are down to 1/512 and dropping in an asymptotic way. You know, "You better be buckled before I get to....fractions". Once it drops below Iz's death/case ratios, however, that's it. Calling it a day.

 

[espola]

Hah....look at the liar talk about honesty!!!

Your opinion is not evidence.

 

[Grace T.]

Your opinion is not evidence.

But your dishonesty will always make you a liar

 

[espola]

But your dishonesty will always make you a liar

"Third, it is pretty self-evident that dad4 is not only afraid of others catching the virus, but that he himself is afraid of getting COVID. The idea, if true, that policy could be that people go out and be exposed to the virus, without masks or NPIS, once vaccinated, would be terrifying to him

Fourth, he illustrated this by his reaction to the video above. He's running from it to keep his faith in tact."

Your opinion is not evidence.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

Nope. This is like really radical outside the box stuff challenging the argument I posted that Gottlieb made and not by an anti-mask freak (and which has the ear of the UK govt). I don't know if it's right, but if it is, Bruddah has made a chump of you and your world and belief will crumble around you....it means everything you thought is wrong. Again, I'm not taking a position here...Gottlieb might be right, but it's shocking even to me.

When dizzy makes any sense it will be a first. Anytime the diz goes away from his cut and paste opinion and uses his own words he crashes hard. Your faith in him must surely be based solely on his political stance . . . you of the no politics.

 

[Grace T.]

"Third, it is pretty self-evident that dad4 is not only afraid of others catching the virus, but that he himself is afraid of getting COVID. The idea, if true, that policy could be that people go out and be exposed to the virus, without masks or NPIS, once vaccinated, would be terrifying to him

Fourth, he illustrated this by his reaction to the video above. He's running from it to keep his faith in tact."

Your opinion is not evidence.

Still a liar

 

[Grace T.]

When dizzy makes any sense it will be a first. Anytime the diz goes away from his cut and paste opinion and uses his own words he crashes hard. Your faith in him must surely be based solely on his political stance . . . you of the no politics.

Nah. He’d still not be 100% right. It would require mandating at least the first shot. But if the Campbell theory is true he’d be more right about things than dad4…that’s shocking even to me.

 

[crush]

Nah. He’d still not be 100% right. It would require mandating at least the first shot. But if the Campbell theory is true he’d be more right about things than dad4…that’s shocking even to me.

Can you see this as a bio weapon at all Grace? Is it possible that the end game is to get everyone jabbed with poison? This is what I firmly believe and it's easy to see from my perch. I know these selfish bastards all too well and they are losing their power unlike at any other time in history. That's why all the lying, cheating is coming out for all to see. The light is ON and never going away, The light won