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Bruddah IZ
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“The continued obsession with infection figures encourages paranoia when vaccines have severely weakened the link between cases and deaths.”
Prof Hayward’s comments are the latest in a succession of similar interventions from leading scientists in recent days. Oxford’s Prof Andrew Pollard is also skeptical that herd immunity can be attained. Prof Paul Hunter of Exeter, meanwhile, has suggested that we should stop just reporting Covid infection numbers and focus on those who are actually unwell because of the virus. The continued obsession with infection figures encourages paranoia when vaccines have severely weakened the link between cases, hospitalizations and deaths, and many “cases” are mild or asymptomatic. It is welcome that scientists are finally addressing what learning to live with Covid must practically entail.
Prof Hayward’s comments are the latest in a succession of similar interventions from leading scientists in recent days. Oxford’s Prof Andrew Pollard is also skeptical that herd immunity can be attained. Prof Paul Hunter of Exeter, meanwhile, has suggested that we should stop just reporting Covid infection numbers and focus on those who are actually unwell because of the virus. The continued obsession with infection figures encourages paranoia when vaccines have severely weakened the link between cases, hospitalizations and deaths, and many “cases” are mild or asymptomatic. It is welcome that scientists are finally addressing what learning to live with Covid must practically entail.
EvilGoalie 21
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Since it was recommended, I did end up checking out the pillow dude's cybersymposium. To avoid the crazy, I used a spirit guide, following reports from one the invited outside experts whose pilgrim's progress can be found here.
Bottom line, none of the promised CPAC data was provided, with an eventual statement by Lindell's cyber team that the promised packet data that was supposed to reveal vote flipping was not recoverable. By Tuesday, the same day Lindell found out Dominion's defamation suit could go forward, the 5 million challenge was off the table. Perhaps the discovery phase of the lawsuit may prove more interesting.
A few weeks ago I posted a JAMA study that recommended that kids not be masked over CO2 concerns. In the spirit of full disclosure that article has now been retracted.
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Still doesn't change my opinion of masking for children for many other reasons besides CO2.
Notice of Retraction. Walach H, et al. Experimental Assessment of Carbon Dioxide Content in Inhaled Air With or Without Face Masks in Healthy Children: A Randomized Clinical Trial
A Notice of Retraction about the article “Experimental Assessment of Carbon Dioxide Content in Inhaled Air With or Without Face Masks in Healthy Children: A Randomized Clinical Trial,” by Walach H, et al, has been published.
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Still doesn't change my opinion of masking for children for many other reasons besides CO2.
EvilGoalie 21
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Whatever your opinion, taking the time to track back through attribution is IMO deserving of kuddos.
So the Evil Goalie has delacred no cheating went on. Great job Sherlock. You and the Pro Vax group will be just find and dandy in the world you asked for. Trust me, everyone in this stage of the game will get excstly whats coming to them. All brains habe been give the choice. I will wear my mask and take the weekly test if thats what it will take. My kids are also masked up. Blood thinner stock is sky rocketing. Stay saffe everyone.
I remember as a kid my mom sent me to hang out with a friend who wasn’t feeling well. Come to find out he had the Chickenpox, cause I broke out a few days later. I also found out 3 other friends had the same experience cause our parents intentionally sent us there to get the Virus because it was better for us to get it as a kid and develop an immunity than to risk getting it as an adult.
Honest questions you guys. Evil, Dad, Husker Pooespola or IZ, please share sage advice with me. I have NEVER felt this much pressure to earn my freedom. Does anyone truly know what their rolling their sleeve up for? What's in IT, please share if you honestly know what the ingredients is that everyone is begging me to take. I mean, at this point I see no way of living in California without going homeless. I could move to another state and they will welcome me but my dd Sr year is what some kids live for. I'm stuck between a rock & a hard place. My buddy took two jabs to keep his job and now he drinks blood thinner. The dude out of Murrieta is not doing good. Please pray for Gary. I will give update on him asap. I saw a real video of 17 year old who took jabs because her mom said so and is paralyzed from the waist down. He mom was crying saying dont have kids take it. Why is blood thinner #1 in sales right now? My buddy just bought a killer house up in Agora Hills. His wife just got her fat bonus for another record quarter. Teachers get their jobs ((they now have to give something up if they want a job so they can pay their mortgage or rent and all their other payments like sports car)). This is what keeping up with the Smiths is like you guys but with intense pressure to keep you freedom. Nothing like freedom in exchange for two jabs+mask+boosters when Dr. F says to take the boosters. Either way, none of us have true freedom. My buddy told me 100% no more Jabs and if he could do it all over again, he would have moved two years ago and took a job at a Charter School in FL.. He took the jab because he felt pressure from his boss. Wat Fly man, if a person feels cohorts into a corner to keep his job and then dies from adverse reaction to the jabs, can family sue the business owner? Some of these guys are mean assholes and make worker feel guilty, confused, pressured and not sure what to do so they take one for the team and roll up the sleeve.
There is an episode of South Park where the parents get the kids together with a sick kid so they all get chickenpox. The kids find out and as revenge get a hooker with herpes to use their parents personal items like toothbrushes.
I'm hoping you didn't do that to your mom.
LOL…..that was a great episode!
Thanks Hound, I needed this. I went to Hole Foods and everyone is back wearing the mask. I decided I dont want to be called A Schmuck or a Drunk Driver so I gave up my freedom to make others around less paranoid and will ear my mask again. I 100% feel sorry for all my friends who took the two jabs and are not safe from getting it and it they do get IT, their super spreaders now. I cant keep up with the latest data. These people have no more goal post. It always good and their always right with their numbers. They never lie and they always tell the truth. I now know people are 100% being played and are brainwashed in fear. Fear is everywhere. That was a quick summer. This Fall is going to nuts!!!
Even the church people who are rule followers are brainwashed. I was debating the facts with old minster pal earlier and he got all mad. He told me that Apostle Paul would rebuke me for my disobedience to the governing authorities that are over me. Paul mentions it in the book of Romans. Dude also told me Paul said to obey your leaders because they keep watch over you as men who must give an account for their leadership. I told him to buzz off and he's dead wrong and to never pluck a scripture out to suit your desires and a way to make a living. He makes a buck in the ministry and to stay open he has to obey....lol!!! What a joke!!!
Bruddah IZ
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I know, right? Did you hear cases are skyrocketing in San Francisco and nyc??? That evil Ron de santis must be stopped!!!
It’s a bit why my current stance is ironic. I begged my parents not to do that to me and managed to avoid getting it into my 20s. I got it as a senior in college probably on a flight back from russia. I had to be hospitalized. Had some pretty bad lung scaring too and had to go on oxygen. It was just a few years shy of the vaccine being approved in the us too.
The trials of the moderna vaccine in 12-17 didn’t go well. The early reports ionic show only 40% effective in stopping symptomatic infection against the delta. If so why make the kiddos take it…they already aren’t at serious risk of hospitalization and disease so what exactly is the vaccine intended to accomplish??? Make a cold a more mild cold?
a. The other corona viruses have a history of changing to avoid natural immunity.
b. There have been some indications that natural immunity might be more robust than vaccinated immunity due to different types of antibodies being present
c. There have been some showings that the vaccinated can have similar viral loads to the unvaccinated.
d. zero covid as a result isn't possible. It will eventually reach equilibrium with us. Like flu, RSV, adenoviruses and the other coronaviruses, it will kill people from time to time.
e. there's an inevitable rocky period of unknown duration for when equilibrium will be reached and ongoing restrictions just delay the inevitable.
f. Some asian countries and Aus/NZ will have a horrible time though when they need to hit that equilibrium, even if they get to full vaccination. It will be painful since they can't stay shut off from the world forever.
Why it’s time to move on from Covid - spiked (spiked-online.com)
b. There have been some indications that natural immunity might be more robust than vaccinated immunity due to different types of antibodies being present
c. There have been some showings that the vaccinated can have similar viral loads to the unvaccinated.
d. zero covid as a result isn't possible. It will eventually reach equilibrium with us. Like flu, RSV, adenoviruses and the other coronaviruses, it will kill people from time to time.
e. there's an inevitable rocky period of unknown duration for when equilibrium will be reached and ongoing restrictions just delay the inevitable.
f. Some asian countries and Aus/NZ will have a horrible time though when they need to hit that equilibrium, even if they get to full vaccination. It will be painful since they can't stay shut off from the world forever.
Why it’s time to move on from Covid - spiked (spiked-online.com)