Bad News Thread

DON'T PANIC YOU MASK-A-HOLICS


William Mattox reports, in the Wall Street Journal, on a happy development in Florida: Children in school districts that mandate masks have been given greater access to school choice in the form of (as Mattox describes it) “a Hope Scholarship that allows them to attend another (public or private) school of their parents’ choosing.” A slice:

The announcement elicited widespread praise from parents who oppose mask mandates and knee-jerk derision from Mr. DeSantis’s detractors nationwide. But the most interesting response came from some Covid-wary Florida parents who support mask requirements. They asked if they too could take advantage of the Hope Scholarships. The department said yes.
Thus, it is now possible for families on all sides of the mask wars to send their kids to a school with Covid policies that match their preferences. That’s a win-win.
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Bruddah IZ said:
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Your graph is yet more good evidence that the vaccines work.

Are other factors also at play? Heck yes. For one, those grey dots in the lower left are the mountain states and the upper Midwest: mild summer weather and high rates of past infection.

I just hope vax rates there go up before people head inside as it gets cold and dark.
 
dad4 said:
Your graph is yet more good evidence that the vaccines work.

Are other factors also at play? Heck yes. For one, those grey dots in the lower left are the mountain states and the upper Midwest: mild summer weather and high rates of past infection.

I just hope vax rates there go up before people head inside as it gets cold and dark.
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Lol!! From Hawaii to Cali to Florida the Maskophiles are reinstating post-vax restrictions for IFR's of .0019, .0037, .0057 respectively. Vaccines working?
 
Bruddah IZ said:
Lol!! From Hawaii to Cali to Florida the Maskophiles are reinstating post-vax restrictions for IFR's of .0019, .0037, .0057 respectively. Vaccines working?
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Look at your graph.

That is a very strong negative correlation. 50 data points, none of them in the entire NE quadrant.

P value for that is under 0.001 - an order of magnitude beyond highly significant.

So, yes, your graph is good evidence that high vaccination rates reduce hospital admissions.
 
Los Angeles mandating vaccination proof to enter indoor public spaces

"I Loved LA, no more."

The Los Angeles City Council voted Wednesday to instruct the city attorney to draft an ordinance that would require at least one coronavirus vaccination dose in order to visit restaurants, gyms, spas, stadiums and other public spaces. ((No more LA for me))

"We need to stop fighting the science and start fighting the virus," O’Farrell said while insisting the move is not a vaccine mandate. ((Coo Coo))

"This is not a vaccine mandate," he explained. "We’re not going to tell someone, anyone, that they have to get vaccinated. We’re also not going to deny anyone the ability to access essential food, medicine… regardless of vaccination. That wouldn’t be legal, that wouldn’t be moral, but what is immoral is choosing not to get vaccinated, choosing to listen to some delusional rant on Twitter." ((OK Dr.))

I will never go to NYC either. Oh well, you jabbers can have LA and NYC and all the boosters you want. I heard from a good pal who got #3. Dude can;t lift up his arm. I'm sure it will get better some day.

"This is a miraculous place, literally filled with wonders," de Blasio said. "If you’re vaccinated, that’s gonna open up to you, you can open the door. If you’re unvaccinated you will not be able to participate in many things. It’s time for people to see vaccination as necessary to living a good, full and healthy life."

Karma is coming for ALL the liars and are the dividers. Look at LA and NYC. WAFJATI. Seriously, you elitist can have all the major cities.
 
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dad4 said:
Look at your graph.

That is a very strong negative correlation. 50 data points, none of them in the entire NE quadrant.

P value for that is under 0.001 - an order of magnitude beyond highly significant.

So, yes, your graph is good evidence that high vaccination rates reduce hospital admissions.
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Lol! or
dad4 said:
.........high rates of past infection.

I just hope vax rates there go up before people head inside as it gets cold and dark.
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Not a good case for vax mandates. It's okay. I am used to your mea culpa's.
 
Ruthless and will do whatever it takes to make $$$$. Tough game were all playing. I was thinking about what that dude had to do to survive when he was 14.

 
dad4 said:
Look at your graph.

That is a very strong negative correlation. 50 data points, none of them in the entire NE quadrant.

P value for that is under 0.001 - an order of magnitude beyond highly significant.

So, yes, your graph is good evidence that high vaccination rates reduce hospital admissions.
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Dizzy was never good with math.
 
I hope everyone can find happiness in these tough times. No jab, no job is taking it's toll. Division is at an all time high. How to find true happiness is standing up for your freaking rights Warren. Look at these two back in the day. Oh happy days is coming soon :)

 
Grace T. said:
It's the two heavy pro NPI governors, not De Santis that are in trouble right now.
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Apparently DeSantis does no know how bad things are since he is now denying knowledge of hundreds of ventilators being requested by Florida state health authorities from Federal stockpiles.
 
MASKOPHILE ALERT!

https://www.city-journal.org/do-masks-work-a-review-of-the-evidence?wallit_nosession=1

The CDC asserts this even though its own statistics show that Covid-19 is not much of a threat to schoolchildren. Its numbers show that more people under the age of 18 died of influenza during the 2018–19 flu season—a season of “moderate severity” that lasted eight months—than have died of Covid-19 across more than 18 months. What’s more, the CDC says that out of every 1,738 Covid-19-related deaths in the U.S. in 2020 and 2021, just one has involved someone under 18 years of age; and out of every 150 deaths of someone under 18 years of age, just one has been Covid-related. Yet the CDC declares that schoolchildren, who learn in part from communication conveyed through facial expressions, should nevertheless hide their faces—and so should their teachers.
 
The Masking of America Faceless people make compliant subjects, not good citizens. by Jeffrey H. Anderson

The day after the CDC endorsed nationwide mask-wearing, President Trump announced, “I won’t be doing it personally.” From that instant, the mask quickly became a symbol of civic virtue—a sort of Black Lives Matter flag that could be hung from one’s face. For many it conveyed a trio of virtues: I’m unselfish; I’m pro-science; I’m anti-Trump. What it also conveyed, incidentally, was rejection of longstanding Western norms, unhealthy risk-aversion, credulous willingness to embrace unsupported health claims, and a pallid view of human interaction.
 
‘The war has changed’: Internal CDC document urges new messaging, warns delta infections likely more severe The internal presentation shows that the agency thinks it is struggling to communicate on vaccine efficacy amid increased breakthrough infections

The delta variant of the coronavirus appears to cause more severe illness than earlier variants and spreads as easily as chickenpox, according to an internal federal health document that argues officials must “acknowledge the war has changed.”

The document is an internal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention slide presentation, shared within the CDC and obtained by The Washington Post. It captures the struggle of the nation’s top public health agency to persuade the public to embrace vaccination and prevention measures, including mask-wearing, as cases surge across the United States and new research suggests vaccinated people can spread the virus.

The document strikes an urgent note, revealing the agency knows it must revamp its public messaging to emphasize vaccination as the best defense against a variant so contagious that it acts almost like a different novel virus, leaping from target to target more swiftly than Ebola or the common cold.

It cites a combination of recently obtained, still-unpublished data from outbreak investigations and outside studies showing that vaccinated individuals infected with delta may be able to transmit the virus as easily as those who are unvaccinated. Vaccinated people infected with delta have measurable viral loads similar to those who are unvaccinated and infected with the variant.
 
Jay Bhattacharya, Sunetra Gupta, and Martin Kulldorff explore “the strange neglect of natural immunity.” A slice:

The COVID vaccines are a fantastic technology that, if used properly, can end the epidemic around the world. Among all medical inventions, vaccines have saved more lives than any other – except perhaps basic hygiene measures like proper sewage systems and clean drinking water. Vaccines themselves do not protect us; it is our immune system’s reaction to the vaccine that protects us. The beauty of vaccines is that we can activate our immune system against serious diseases without becoming seriously ill.
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Natural infection typically confers better and broader protection, but this comes at a cost to those who are vulnerable to severe illness and death. For those in the vulnerable group, including the elderly and those with chronic disease, it is safer to acquire future protection against the disease via vaccination than by recovering from the disease. At the same time, it makes little sense to ignore the scientific fact that infection does confer long-lasting future protection for the millions of people who have had COVID.
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“The continued obsession with infection figures encourages paranoia when vaccines have severely weakened the link between cases and deaths.”

Prof Hayward’s comments are the latest in a succession of similar interventions from leading scientists in recent days. Oxford’s Prof Andrew Pollard is also skeptical that herd immunity can be attained. Prof Paul Hunter of Exeter, meanwhile, has suggested that we should stop just reporting Covid infection numbers and focus on those who are actually unwell because of the virus. The continued obsession with infection figures encourages paranoia when vaccines have severely weakened the link between cases, hospitalizations and deaths, and many “cases” are mild or asymptomatic. It is welcome that scientists are finally addressing what learning to live with Covid must practically entail.
 
Scott McKay is correct: “Our Politicians And Bureaucrats Are Failing At Virology.” A slice:
Smallpox and polio are not coronaviruses. Thus they can be eradicated with vaccination.
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This matters, because if we’re ever going to return to normal it’s going to have to be with the understanding that it’s not possible to have zero COVID cases. There will be COVID cases among the people who don’t have immunity, and it’s quite likely that as the virus continues to mutate its variants might continue to produce symptoms among people who have been vaccinated. We’re seeing a bit of that with the Delta variant, though it’s true that more than 90 percent of those currently hospitalized with COVID are unvaccinated.
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Returning to normal is going to mean that future strains of COVID, which are overwhelmingly likely to be infectious but less serious or deadly, will infect people regularly like colds or influenza do.
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EvilGoalie 21 said:
Status report? Is the 5000 large still on the table?
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Since it was recommended, I did end up checking out the pillow dude's cybersymposium. To avoid the crazy, I used a spirit guide, following reports from one the invited outside experts whose pilgrim's progress can be found here.


Bottom line, none of the promised CPAC data was provided, with an eventual statement by Lindell's cyber team that the promised packet data that was supposed to reveal vote flipping was not recoverable. By Tuesday, the same day Lindell found out Dominion's defamation suit could go forward, the 5 million challenge was off the table. Perhaps the discovery phase of the lawsuit may prove more interesting.
 
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