Bad News Thread

The bad news is life is not only super hard, it's not fair either. However, I want everyone to know that after today, life will start being based on merit and what you do with your talent(s). It will still take hard work folks, but all work will be rewarded fairly and equally based off effort and results. I too want to say, "farewell my dear friends from the past." Make this years July 4th one to remember.
Don’t be a fucking pussy.
 
"Emerging data suggest people infected with the Delta variant - the variant behind most of Australia's current cases and highly prevalent around the world - are experiencing symptoms different to those we commonly associated with COVID earlier in the pandemic."

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"While we still have more to learn about the Delta variant, this emerging data is important because it shows us that what we might think of as just a mild winter cold - a runny nose and a sore throat - could be a case of COVID-19."

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Had a family picnic at the beach for the 4th. Was an uncle in law there who has served in the uniformed public health corp and was posted to nih in the early 2000s. He didn’t know anything about how things went down in the pandemic but did have interesting Fauci gossip. Apparently they called him Napoleon and he had a reputation for being grouchy and he had a chip on his shoulder about how he was criticized after the aids crisis.
 
Had a family picnic at the beach for the 4th. Was an uncle in law there who has served in the uniformed public health corp and was posted to nih in the early 2000s. He didn’t know anything about how things went down in the pandemic but did have interesting Fauci gossip. Apparently they called him Napoleon and he had a reputation for being grouchy and he had a chip on his shoulder about how he was criticized after the aids crisis.

But we know that you are too classy to pass on any gossip like that, right?
 
Funny coming from you Magoo.

I don't believe I have ever quoted an uncle-in-law or any other conveniently anonymous relative, but my cousin's cousin's girlfriend's father suspects that people who criticize Fauci without specific reason are just upset that he made t look so bad.

The" Napoleon" jibe is fairly common for a short person in charge of a large group of people. (Boldly stated behind the target's back with the door closed)

As for Fauci's reputation in the AIDS crisis, it didn't take long to find a more balanced viewpoint --

https://www.thebodypro.com/article/tony-fauci-md-coronavirus
 
I don't believe I have ever quoted an uncle-in-law or any other conveniently anonymous relative, but my cousin's cousin's girlfriend's father suspects that people who criticize Fauci without specific reason are just upset that he made t look so bad.

The" Napoleon" jibe is fairly common for a short person in charge of a large group of people. (Boldly stated behind the target's back with the door closed)

As for Fauci's reputation in the AIDS crisis, it didn't take long to find a more balanced viewpoint --

https://www.thebodypro.com/article/tony-fauci-md-coronavirus
You can please some of the people some of the time but you can’t please all the people all of the time. Like reading product reviews some people just had a bad experience that sometimes you see right in the review is mostly or partially their own fault . . . or they just have an (political) axe to grind.
 
Interesting correlation between covid cases and birthdays.

Birthdays were associated with a 31% increase in positive covid tests. Child birthdays were associated with a greater increase than adult birthdays.

Simplest explanation is that indoor birthday gatherings were spreading coronavirus.

Unscientific back of the envelope says, if about one third of birthday party attendees were immediate family, then the birthday parties can account for about 3-4% of all cases.
 
Interesting correlation between covid cases and birthdays.

Birthdays were associated with a 31% increase in positive covid tests. Child birthdays were associated with a greater increase than adult birthdays.

Simplest explanation is that indoor birthday gatherings were spreading coronavirus.

Unscientific back of the envelope says, if about one third of birthday party attendees were immediate family, then the birthday parties can account for about 3-4% of all cases.
What’s more interesting is that people in stay at home order states were just as likely to test positive after a birthday than those without. It points to one of the reasons the us lockdowns were ineffective: they didn’t/couldn’t control against these types of informal gatherings.
 
What’s more interesting is that people in stay at home order states were just as likely to test positive after a birthday than those without. It points to one of the reasons the us lockdowns were ineffective: they didn’t/couldn’t control against these types of informal gatherings.
I don’t see why you phrase it as a government centric angle rather than an individual responsibility angle. We are the ones who held the indoor gatherings, not NIH.

This is more of a time to look back and say “I personally should not have done that.”. It is sadly dependent to say, “That was a bad idea. Why didn’t the government stop me?”
 
What’s more interesting is that people in stay at home order states were just as likely to test positive after a birthday than those without. It points to one of the reasons the us lockdowns were ineffective: they didn’t/couldn’t control against these types of informal gatherings.

That's pretty twisted logic.

Let's see -- we don't need stop signs because people will still run them. We don't need fireworks bans because people will find a way to get them anyway. The offside rules in soccer should be eliminated because people are still offside in every game.

Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera,

Please continue.
 
I don’t see why you phrase it as a government centric angle rather than an individual responsibility angle. We are the ones who held the indoor gatherings, not NIH.

This is more of a time to look back and say “I personally should not have done that.”. It is sadly dependent to say, “That was a bad idea. Why didn’t the government stop me?”
Daddy said don’t but we did anyways and got sick! It’s daddy’s fault!
 
That's pretty twisted logic.

Let's see -- we don't need stop signs because people will still run them. We don't need fireworks bans because people will find a way to get them anyway. The offside rules in soccer should be eliminated because people are still offside in every game.

Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera,

Please continue.
People still bring guns into gun free zones so why bother.
 
I don’t see why you phrase it as a government centric angle rather than an individual responsibility angle. We are the ones who held the indoor gatherings, not NIH.

This is more of a time to look back and say “I personally should not have done that.”. It is sadly dependent to say, “That was a bad idea. Why didn’t the government stop me?”

That's the difference in our philosophies. I approach policy knowing people sometimes are devils and will fail. You approach it hoping that people will be angels. When that fails, as it inevitably must, you get frustrated and fall back on authoritarianism. That's also why you are doing religion, instead of policy, preaching for folks to be better.
 
That's pretty twisted logic.

Let's see -- we don't need stop signs because people will still run them. We don't need fireworks bans because people will find a way to get them anyway. The offside rules in soccer should be eliminated because people are still offside in every game.

Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera,

Please continue.

The only thing you have demonstrated with your comment is a stunning misunderstanding of the intent and function of the offside rule.
 
"Emerging data suggest people infected with the Delta variant - the variant behind most of Australia's current cases and highly prevalent around the world - are experiencing symptoms different to those we commonly associated with COVID earlier in the pandemic."

--

"While we still have more to learn about the Delta variant, this emerging data is important because it shows us that what we might think of as just a mild winter cold - a runny nose and a sore throat - could be a case of COVID-19."

--

Maybe, just maybe, we're looking at the Delta strain the wrong way. If the symptoms are mild, maybe its the best way to self "vaccinate" the healthy that have yet to be vaccinated and to close the loop on herd immunity. It's still in the best interest of the vulnerable to get vaccinated.
 
Maybe, just maybe, we're looking at the Delta strain the wrong way. If the symptoms are mild, maybe its the best way to self "vaccinate" the healthy that have yet to be vaccinated and to close the loop on herd immunity. It's still in the best interest of the vulnerable to get vaccinated.

Immunity from both natural and vaccines is imperfect, giving the virus hosts to mutate in. You'd have to blow it out and blow it out quickly by deliberately trying to infect people (worldwide including in places which don't have enough vaccine) so as to give the virus less time to mutate (though mutations are a function of both time and host count, so you are still giving it umpteen different times to mutate away from existing immunity...would be more feasible if we had achieved a threshold in global vaccinations).

More than likely, it's here to stay (at least for several years to come) as life will find away and it has enough time and hosts to further mutate before vaccination is deployed worldwide. We haven't even managed to eradicate polio (there's yet another push announced 4 weeks ago to eradicate it by 2026....difficult though when it hides in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan where governments have little functional control). It's going to be a bad cold....and yes it will kill people...many of the same people flu or adenovirus or rsv would have killed.
 
Immunity from both natural and vaccines is imperfect, giving the virus hosts to mutate in. You'd have to blow it out and blow it out quickly by deliberately trying to infect people (worldwide including in places which don't have enough vaccine) so as to give the virus less time to mutate (though mutations are a function of both time and host count, so you are still giving it umpteen different times to mutate away from existing immunity...would be more feasible if we had achieved a threshold in global vaccinations).

More than likely, it's here to stay (at least for several years to come) as life will find away and it has enough time and hosts to further mutate before vaccination is deployed worldwide. We haven't even managed to eradicate polio (there's yet another push announced 4 weeks ago to eradicate it by 2026....difficult though when it hides in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan where governments have little functional control). It's going to be a bad cold....and yes it will kill people...many of the same people flu or adenovirus or rsv would have killed.
I have no doubts that Covid is going to linger in some form our another for a while, which only gives more fodder to the eradication proponents who continue to push for restrictions. Despite the fact it's likely on par or less harmful than the seasonal flu at this point and points in the future.
 
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