Bad News Thread

espola said:
I gave you a position and a challenge to change my mind. Why are you ignoring it?
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In order to change someone's mind, you need to know what their position on an issue is. What they support about a particular issue, etc.

You have never outlined what tenants of CRT you support and why? That is how one would take a position. And from that position you and I could have a back and forth. Yet for some reason you are incapable of outlining anything you believe in.
 
Desert Hound said:
In order to change someone's mind, you need to know what their position on an issue is. What they support about a particular issue, etc.

You have never outlined what tenants of CRT you support and why? That is how one would take a position. And from that position you and I could have a back and forth. Yet for some reason you are incapable of outlining anything you believe in.
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The position I posted is that whenever you mention CRT you don't know what you are talking about. You're not making much of an impact on that opinion with this post.

And who exactly are those tenants anyway?
 
espola said:
What do you mean by " CRT sort"?
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It wasn't clear from my post?

It isn't complicated. Kendi's philosophy uses skin color to assign blame for actions not committed by the person in question. If your skin color is light, you are eligible to be a racist, but not eligible to be a victim of racism. If your skin color is dark, the reverse is true. This philosophy is racist, plain and simple. Kendi’s works have no place in our schools, at any level.

This does not mean that Kendi should be banned. But racism is not something we should teach.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
I know the trumpist thing is to want bury the past (especially January 6), move on but hold on to the big lie and claim the Donald was right about everything (especially his self-fulfilled prophecies). The things trump made up to cover his tracks bounce around so hard in the bubble of denial that many don’t even know he is the originator of the ideas, they just accept them as reality. Alternative reality.
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Have no idea where you are going with this. Isn't it funny how state run media has made "the big lie" part of your daily lexicon. You make trump sound like a netflix series.
 
espola said:
T is just about the closest call we have had to Hitler-like demagoguery. People have actually forgotten how bad the Nixon and Cheney years were. And he is still trying (at least until August 13, right?)

Just like t, Hitler and his Nazis never won a nationwide popular vote until they had eliminated most of the opposing voters. Sound familiar?
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You must be day drinking. This is the silliest thing ever. Compare Hitler to Pol Pot..sure...compare Hitler to a one hit con man, silly beyond belief. But go ahead and believe it. Just how bad were they Nixon and Cheney years? So bad that I clearly don't remember what you are talking about. Certainly not old enough for Nixon..but I can read.
 
what-happened said:
compare Hitler to a one hit con man, silly beyond belief.
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And yet for the past number of years not only do we see ignorant people like espola and husker using those terms, but we see various dems and press in print/broadcase use it.

Absolutely ridiculous to use those comparisons. Basically it broadcasts to the world...hey I am ignorant regarding history.
 
dad4 said:
It wasn't clear from my post?

It isn't complicated. Kendi's philosophy uses skin color to assign blame for actions not committed by the person in question. If your skin color is light, you are eligible to be a racist, but not eligible to be a victim of racism. If your skin color is dark, the reverse is true. This philosophy is racist, plain and simple. Kendi’s works have no place in our schools, at any level.

This does not mean that Kendi should be banned. But racism is not something we should teach.
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I feel for you, but that's not CRT.
 
Desert Hound said:
And yet for the past number of years not only do we see ignorant people like espola and husker using those terms, but we see various dems and press in print/broadcase use it.

Absolutely ridiculous to use those comparisons. Basically it broadcasts to the world...hey I am ignorant regarding history.
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There are easy ways for you to fix that.

How much do the tenants of CRT pay for rent? Are there any openings?
 
dad4 said:
According to what definition?

At best, CRT is undefined, and therefore inappropriate for schools.

At worst, CRT means "that racist philosophy from Kendi", which is also inappropriate for schools.
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CRT is very well defined. You can even look it up with the same keyboard that facilitated you making those mistakes.
 
"The reason behind such tyranny came into focus for me when Condolezza Rice, former secretary of state and current director of the Hoover Institution at Stanford, told me she’d shared with her students that the capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (9/11’s architect) had felt like “having Erwin Rommel under lock and key.” The blank looks on the faces of her very bright students revealed that they had never heard of WWII’s famous Desert Fox.

Until then, I’d traced the enmity to activists like Jackson and Hannah-Jones. Now, I could see that it also stemmed from students having swapped an education for indoctrination. Those enlisted as social justice warriors had avoided the lessons of history, missed out on refining skills that might have allowed them to judge assertions and denied themselves the insights required to make wise trade-offs."

www.deseret.com

My road to cancellation

The road to cancellation for Stanford business school educator, successful CEO and entrepreneur Joel Peterson began in 1987. Now it’s time to say enough.
www.deseret.com www.deseret.com
 
espola said:
CRT is very well defined. You can even look it up with the same keyboard that facilitated you making those mistakes.
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No link?

So you don’t have a clear CRT definition, either. The term can mean anything from basic history lessons to calls for redistributive justice.

This is why I focus on Kendi. His work is well defined, racist, and being brought into schools. Teaching Kendi is no more educationally appropriate than teaching Louis Farrakhan or David Duke.

Redlining and the Tulsa massacre, on the other hand, belong in textbooks, right alongside the Triangle Shirtwaist fire and the Teapot Dome scandal.
 
what-happened said:
Have no idea where you are going with this. Isn't it funny how state run media has made "the big lie" part of your daily lexicon. You make trump sound like a netflix series.
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Why are republicans that tell the truth about the 2020 presidential election being “canceled” by their party mates?

thehill.com

Michigan GOP executive director quits under pressure from Trump allies

The executive director of the Michigan Republican Party has quit his post just a few months after taking over the top job amid pressure from supporters of former President Trump.Jason Cabel Roe, a …
thehill.com thehill.com
 
dad4 said:
No link?

So you don’t have a clear CRT definition, either. The term can mean anything from basic history lessons to calls for redistributive justice.

This is why I focus on Kendi. His work is well defined, racist, and being brought into schools. Teaching Kendi is no more educationally appropriate than teaching Louis Farrakhan or David Duke.

Redlining and the Tulsa massacre, on the other hand, belong in textbooks, right alongside the Triangle Shirtwaist fire and the Teapot Dome scandal.
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A law school exercise made into a straw man for the right. When “culture warriors” want to deny our culture they need something to point at. The two aren’t related in the real world.
 
dad4 said:
No link?

So you don’t have a clear CRT definition, either. The term can mean anything from basic history lessons to calls for redistributive justice.

This is why I focus on Kendi. His work is well defined, racist, and being brought into schools. Teaching Kendi is no more educationally appropriate than teaching Louis Farrakhan or David Duke.

Redlining and the Tulsa massacre, on the other hand, belong in textbooks, right alongside the Triangle Shirtwaist fire and the Teapot Dome scandal.
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Since you mentioned Kendi, I assume you have read this --

www.theatlantic.com

There Is No Debate Over Critical Race Theory

Pundits and politicians have created their own definition for the term, and then set about attacking it.
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com
 
Good article about the pros and cons about the risks England is balancing in its COVID exit policy. England is continuing to remove all restrictions despite rising cases and vaccination breakthoughs and cases may even under some projections surpass the winter wave, but deaths remain on the floor. Also illustrates the difficulty in working your population into a panic since some seem to be panicking about these breakthrough cases and not wanting to get the virus at all (which once herd immunity went out the window became pretty much impossible).


www.nbcnews.com

England takes 'a fairly extreme stance' to reopen as cases surge

Analysis: One health expert described it as "a real-life experiment on an enormous and terrifying scale."
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

www.worldometers.info

United Kingdom COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

United Kingdom Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info www.worldometers.info
 
Grace T. said:
Good article about the pros and cons about the risks England is balancing in its COVID exit policy. England is continuing to remove all restrictions despite rising cases and vaccination breakthoughs and cases may even under some projections surpass the winter wave, but deaths remain on the floor. Also illustrates the difficulty in working your population into a panic since some seem to be panicking about these breakthrough cases and not wanting to get the virus at all (which once herd immunity went out the window became pretty much impossible).


www.nbcnews.com

England takes 'a fairly extreme stance' to reopen as cases surge

Analysis: One health expert described it as "a real-life experiment on an enormous and terrifying scale."
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

www.worldometers.info

United Kingdom COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

United Kingdom Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info www.worldometers.info
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Y9ou seem to have a fixation on the word "panic". I wonder why. Is it your safe word?
 
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