Keep preaching. Admire the faith.
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Keep preaching. Admire the faith.
"I threw back in the face of the school safety officer that everyone was masked and the cdc director had just said masks were better than vaccines. It was a super sweet moment. "
That's a cheap political point.
No it's not. I couldn't care less about the guys politics. It won me the argument because he had no rebuttal to it and was totally pinned least he be accused of not following the science. They did not make kiddo take the COVID test for the 1 hour.
I see that you are reduced to evidence-free responses, like “keep preaching”. That’s because you have no respectable articles to point to.
Take a look at the evidence.
Face masks: what the data say
The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on. How much evidence is enough?
www.nature.com
An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19
The science around the use of masks by the public to impede COVID-19 transmission is advancing rapidly. In this narrative review, we develop an analytical framework to examine mask usage, synthesizing the relevant literature to inform multiple areas: population impact, transmission...
www.pnas.org
Effectiveness of Mask Wearing to Control Community Spread of SARS-CoV-2
This JAMA Insights CDC review summarizes accumulating evidence that mask wearing reduces spread of SARS-CoV-2 infection and that universal mandatory mask wearing policies reduce infections and deaths and emphasizes face masks are one component of pandemic control measures, including physical...
jamanetwork.com
You’ve been giving people bad medical advice for 15 months now. You can stop.
I see that you are reduced to evidence-free responses, like “keep preaching”. That’s because you have no respectable articles to point to.
Take a look at the evidence.
Face masks: what the data say
The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on. How much evidence is enough?
An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19
The science around the use of masks by the public to impede COVID-19 transmission is advancing rapidly. In this narrative review, we develop an analytical framework to examine mask usage, synthesizing the relevant literature to inform multiple areas: population impact, transmission...
Effectiveness of Mask Wearing to Control Community Spread of SARS-CoV-2
This JAMA Insights CDC review summarizes accumulating evidence that mask wearing reduces spread of SARS-CoV-2 infection and that universal mandatory mask wearing policies reduce infections and deaths and emphasizes face masks are one component of pandemic control measures, including physical...
You’ve been giving people bad medical advice for 15 months now. You can stop.
weve posted round and round before. Nothings going to shake your faith. But as to medical advice, I’ve pointed out in the past the micro effects are probably greater than the macro effects. Nothing is going to stop you from getting the virus on that plane even if the 2 of you seated next to each other are wearing n95s. It may stop you from getting it if you are 10 rows back but it’s reduced your low chances already. On a macro level, for all the reasons we’ve gone round and round on, they don’t do much. And in any case given the cdc advice on the vaccinated and masking, aren’t you the one currently giving out advice contra to the established science? Oh I forgot. It’s not advice...it’s preaching.
Please continue.
No thanks. See U trolling again.
Bruddah IZ
DA
You working for OSHA now?
Airplanes again? That's because your argument fails anywhere outside the aluminum germ tube.weve posted round and round before. Nothings going to shake your faith. But as to medical advice, I’ve pointed out in the past the micro effects are probably greater than the macro effects. Nothing is going to stop you from getting the virus on that plane even if the 2 of you seated next to each other are wearing n95s. It may stop you from getting it if you are 10 rows back but it’s reduced your low chances already. On a macro level, for all the reasons we’ve gone round and round on, they don’t do much. And in any case given the cdc advice on the vaccinated and masking, aren’t you the one currently giving out advice contra to the established science? Oh I forgot. It’s not advice...it’s preaching.
I disagree with CDC on policy, not science. CDC and I both claim that all unvaccinated people should mask up. I just think that, as a matter of policy, there is no way to draw a line between vax and unvax. The only way to get masks on the unvaccinated is if everyone wear masks. CDC believes in the honor system. I don't.
Crush proves my point on this. Some people will lie about their vax status to get out of wearing masks. Crush already did exactly that. Not everyone is honorable.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Masks, as they are in their current form, will never be better than a good vaccine because people wear them.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Because everybody agrees about what is right for "us"
Bruddah IZ
DA
Agree. You've already proven many times that you are not honorable.
Bruddah IZ
DA
You've been ignoring at least 50 years of virus history. Shall I retrieve your mask mea culpa?I see that you are reduced to evidence-free responses, like “keep preaching”. That’s because you have no respectable articles to point to.
Take a look at the evidence.
Face masks: what the data say
The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on. How much evidence is enough?
An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19
The science around the use of masks by the public to impede COVID-19 transmission is advancing rapidly. In this narrative review, we develop an analytical framework to examine mask usage, synthesizing the relevant literature to inform multiple areas: population impact, transmission...
Effectiveness of Mask Wearing to Control Community Spread of SARS-CoV-2
This JAMA Insights CDC review summarizes accumulating evidence that mask wearing reduces spread of SARS-CoV-2 infection and that universal mandatory mask wearing policies reduce infections and deaths and emphasizes face masks are one component of pandemic control measures, including physical...
You’ve been giving people bad medical advice for 15 months now. You can stop.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Nearly 30 pages later and Dad4 still arguing with himself.
Bruddah IZ
DA
I see that you are reduced to evidence-free responses, like “keep preaching”. That’s because you have no respectable articles to point to.
Take a look at the evidence.
Face masks: what the data say
The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on. How much evidence is enough?
An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19
The science around the use of masks by the public to impede COVID-19 transmission is advancing rapidly. In this narrative review, we develop an analytical framework to examine mask usage, synthesizing the relevant literature to inform multiple areas: population impact, transmission...
Effectiveness of Mask Wearing to Control Community Spread of SARS-CoV-2
This JAMA Insights CDC review summarizes accumulating evidence that mask wearing reduces spread of SARS-CoV-2 infection and that universal mandatory mask wearing policies reduce infections and deaths and emphasizes face masks are one component of pandemic control measures, including physical...
You’ve been giving people bad medical advice for 15 months now. You can stop.
Yahoo needs to explain how, if "lockdown" states are doing better economically than "loose" states, why there are 21 states in the "weak restrictions, strong recovery" quadrant while there are 2 in the "strong restrictions, strong recovery" quadrant...and they barely made the cut
Bruddah IZ
DA
Coincidentally, April 24th was also when hospitalizations peaked and declined for these age groups. Why did the CDC end their study right at this point, I wonder?
Bruddah IZ
DA
"'Rising hospitalizations' also misses very important context - hospitalizations were rising in all age groups around this time frame in the spring -- even the most-vaccinated cohort (> 65) -- and at faster rates. Yet they use this study to justify why teen vaccinations are needed."
Bruddah IZ
DA
(TW note: In case you can't see the key in the graph below, the orange line on the top is 65 and over, the blue line is the overall number, and that dashed line at the bottom that barely registers at all is the terrible apocalypse of hospitalizations among the 12-17 age group that is supposed to make their vaccinations urgent.)
"Something in this MMWR study that is worth mentioning, though: almost HALF (172 out of 376) of 'COVID' hospitalizations in this age group were likely there for something other than COVID -- further supporting the claim that child COVID hospitalization numbers are inflated.
"Additionally, of the 172 children admitted to the hospital, but not for COVID, over 44% were there for psychiatric care. This seems like a pretty alarming number, but we'd need to see what the baseline is for psychiatric admissions of adolescents.
"It's becoming increasingly obvious the CDC is not an unbiased, agenda-free scientific organization. Just a month ago it was found they let teachers unions influence school reopening guidance. Their reputation rightfully continues to quickly deteriorate."
"Something in this MMWR study that is worth mentioning, though: almost HALF (172 out of 376) of 'COVID' hospitalizations in this age group were likely there for something other than COVID -- further supporting the claim that child COVID hospitalization numbers are inflated.
"Additionally, of the 172 children admitted to the hospital, but not for COVID, over 44% were there for psychiatric care. This seems like a pretty alarming number, but we'd need to see what the baseline is for psychiatric admissions of adolescents.
"It's becoming increasingly obvious the CDC is not an unbiased, agenda-free scientific organization. Just a month ago it was found they let teachers unions influence school reopening guidance. Their reputation rightfully continues to quickly deteriorate."
Nope. We can't even agree about questions of fact.
Do masks work? Is disease growth exponential? How dangerous is covid? The answers depend on your political party.
It makes it very hard to agree on a policy when you can't even agree about where you are.
Multi Sport
DA
Speaking of teachers unions..
L.A. Teachers Union Will Vote On Endorsing “Boycott, Divest, Sanction” Against Israel
Will teachers unions' one-sided demonization of Israel stoke anti-Semitism at a time when hate crimes against Jewish students is already at an all-time high?
www.forbes.com