The only 2 other obvious factors are latitude and percentage of workers forced to work in person.
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Those don't hold up, either.
Latitude helps you, not us. We had less warmth and less sunlight last winter. We should be the ones who spent too much time indoors.
You're also way worse off then San Diego. If the problem were being too far south, they'd be looking worse.
Essential workers? Oakland has mostly essential workers, too. Why does LA have almost three times the death rate of Alameda County?
Two other "obvious" factors you missed: 1- socal rule compliance was weaker on a personal scale. 2- socal had a more contagious variant.
1 is absolutely false. 1/2 of Los Angeles is still wearing masks outside.
2 is unlikely given that at some point given the close ties between la and NorCal it would have spread to NorCal at some point. Even Singapore Taiwan and Thailand were unable to keep out the uk and Indian variants.
Variant:
The LA variant did make it to NorCal. But that's the wrong question. The right question is when it become the dominant variant.
LA was a few months ahead of us. You got it just before the vaccine, and we got it just after. It's a lot less of a problem if 30% of people are vaccinated.
Compliance:
You have the wrong measure of what it means to be masked and distant. It mostly is not a question of what the most cautious people do. Transmission is caused by what the least cautious 20% do.
What fraction of people were still going to casinos and having friends over for drinks?
If that number is higher for LA than for SJ, then that would help explain the difference.
You’ve twisted yourself in circles with the variant and norcalers are more virtuous than socalers when the most obvious explanation really is lines of latitude when you compare what happened in az and Texas including the summer wave. Or: the simplest explanation is usually right.
Desert Hound
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You can go find areas in FL that did better vs other areas in FL. Kind of like what you are trying to pull with your example in CA.
You are looking for excuses as to why CA is in the same place as FL.
FL had 100s of thousands of kids IN SCHOOL. CA did not. FL let biz work. CA really did not.
CA failed in comparison to FL. That is what it is.
Stop making excuses.
The results are in.
If you have kids, work, run a biz, etc. one would have been far better off in FL vs CA.
whatithink
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Israel sees probable link between Pfizer vaccine and myocarditis cases
Israel's Health Ministry said on Tuesday it had found the small number of heart inflammation cases observed mainly in young men who received Pfizer's (PFE.N) COVID-19 vaccine in Israel were likely linked to their vaccination.
www.reuters.com
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In Israel, 275 cases of myocarditis were reported between December 2020 and May 2021 among more than 5 million vaccinated people, the ministry said in disclosing the findings of a study it commissioned to examine the matter.
Most patients who experienced heart inflammation spent no more than four days in the hospital and 95% of the cases were classified as mild, according to the study, which the ministry said was conducted by three teams of experts.
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Israel had held off making its 12- to 15-year-old population eligible for the vaccines, pending the Health Ministry report. In parallel to publishing those findings, a ministry committee approved vaccinating the adolescents, a senior official said.
"The committee gave the green light for vaccinating 12- to 15-year-olds, and this will be possible as of next week," Nachman Ash, Israel's pandemic-response coordinator, told Radio 103 FM. "The efficacy of the vaccine outweighs the risk."
Desert Hound
DA
This is exactly what happened.
By the way recent Fauci emails reveal he thought that without a vaccine covid would go away.
Who was advising the Prez?
What have we heard as a major complaint of Trump? That he said the virus would go away.
If our press wasn't looking to score point, etc we would get so much better info.
Holding off? How about let the public know the real truth. This is more & more looking like a real WMD Grace. I told my friend last night and he told me to stop talking about all this conspiracy shit. Same guy WHO for the last 3 months has been telling me how selfish I am for not taking the double shot of poison. WTFUP!!!! Talk about something that seemed so right can be so wrong
This is MOO, so take what I say with a grain of salt and a bottle Jack. I think the true meaning of life is learning to overcome your fears. I think we will ALL be pushed to the limit in one form of fear or another. Ain't nobody escaping fear + pain + suffering= Help God? Good vs Evil and the choice is an individual one.Go deeper Hound. Get down that rabbit hole with Alice brother. It's super dark at first and you will see some of the most disturbing ass shit that no one is willing to talking about above the earth. I tried to take every male friend I know down with me and they run away every time we get close. To come to think about it, only woman go down the rabbit hole with me. The guys I know have been telling me to STFU with all the abuse stuff towards the kids and it's not true and I just need to go back to life. We need the men to rise up and lead with the woman who have been sounding the alarm bells for a long time. Dudes have been too busy working and trying to survive and I get all that. However, the kids need our help Hound, they really really do.
In the face of growing concerns about myocarditis, last week the CDC posted a statement saying it “continues to recommend COVID-19 vaccination for everyone 12 years of age and older. The known and potential benefits of COVID-19 vaccination outweigh the known and potential risks, including the possible risk of myocarditis or pericarditis.”
Also: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html
Just curious, when you grade a students math test do you just grade them on the parts they did well on?
"Yeah but" if you are a school teacher, California is AWESOME!
Espola, I will now be calling you Ebola. Wow dude, after all this you still act like this? To all the folks reading along, me and Ebola Boy go way back. I'm the only one he censors and ignores. Think about how wrong his triple head avatar has been? I sure hope he HHWTFU and GHSTFGS and his sakes. My son and daughter have a better chance of getting struck by a bus today and being struck by Lightning tomorrow before they would die from the Rona. Seriously, your starting to cross death lines to me and that is not good. Listen to this Dr bro and tell me what lie he is saying. WTFUUPOD!!!!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/TPrL6Qev8Vd0/
Desert Hound
DA
Why vaccinate the kids?
I am in no hurry to get my kids vaccinated.
Lets look at the numbers to date.
Roughly 600k deaths in the US.
Age 0-17 have 309 deaths so far.
Age 18-29 have 2294 deaths so far.
They have no risk.
The above group accounts for just 0.43% of all deaths.
And what did we do? Shut down schools, sports and universities. Look at that number above and make an argument that the gov did the right thing shutting schools down. They have no risk. And the people who have advocated shutting schools down clearly don't look at data or understand risk.
Lets go to age 49.
Everyone under 49 constituted 4.4% of all deaths.
We shut schools, biz, run around wearing useless masks, etc for these numbers?
Enough of the dog and pony safety theater show.
I am curious to see what stupid rules schools have in place for this coming year. So thankful my kids are not stuck in a public school and have to deal with the idiocy. Being in a charter/private school they had school wise a pretty normal rule. The kids across the street in a public school even just a few days ago were doing a drive through graduation because it was deemed unsafe to do it in person.
Desert Hound
DA
I think a better analogy is you have two students. One mostly did the homework and got the easy test. The other did a half-assed job on the homework and got the hard test.
I’m not saying the policies were perfect. Closing outdoor spaces wasn’t just unnecessary, it probably cost lives. But something went seriously wrong in LA, and it wasn’t just Newsom. Somehow, you guys had over twice as many deaths per capita as other urbanized areas of California.
