Have you completed your assignment of writing a description of how vaccines work?
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Have you completed your assignment of writing a description of how vaccines work?
EOTL is Espola or Espola is EOTL. He was also Messy and a few others. Divider of the country is his purpose. You see, when these losers lose and losers always lose, they do what all losers do. See meme pic for Espoal and his 6 other avatars. Big baby!!!
Desert Hound
DA
Did you bother to look at the underlying data in the link I posted?
You may not like the author and apparently the press doesn't either. But I notice none of the criticism of him related to the actual studies he referred to. He didn't didn't do the studies on mask effectiveness. He posted the results of those mask studies. The main thrust of his own study/theory was related to what he thought were the bad effects of masks. I didn't talk about those.
So if you go back and look at that article when he talks about masks and their effectiveness, he provides footnotes (links) to the actual studies.
You didn't bother looking at those. Nor for that matter did the links that had criticism of the author itself.
It is a lazy way to disagree with someone. Find something about the person you don't like and focus on that. That then provides the excuse to ignore the data he talks about that comes from other sources.
Desert Hound
DA
Funny how this works...or not.
legalinsurrection.com
Teachers Unions Increased Donations to Democrats When Congress Debated Reopening Schools
Parents get another reason to keep their children in the private or charter schools they chose after the unions kept public schools closed for months.
legalinsurrection.com
Lazy? I posted quotes from and links to several articles that showed the shortcomings of von Numbnuts' ramblings. In addition to a devastatingly complete contradiction of his opinion was disclosure of his dishonesty about his credentials and the weakness of the Medical Hypotheses journal itself - anything can be published there as long as it has the appearance of a proper scientific article. His description of "the bad effects of masks" contains no supporting evidence other than his own speculation.
Have you completed your assignment of writing a description of how vaccines work?
You should post that in the UNIONS thread!Funny how this works...or not.
Teachers Unions Increased Donations to Democrats When Congress Debated Reopening Schools
Parents get another reason to keep their children in the private or charter schools they chose after the unions kept public schools closed for months.
Desert Hound
DA
You have this from the WHO from December https://www.who.int/publications/i/...of-the-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)-outbreak
On page 4 you get this tidbit:
Evidence on the use of mask in health care settings Systematic reviews have reported that the use of N95/P2 respirators compared with the use of medical masks (see mask definitions, above) is not associated with statistically significant differences for the outcomes of health workers acquiring clinical respiratory illness, influenza-like illness
Then you have this from the EU version of the CDC.
What did they say?
"The role of face masks in the control and prevention of COVID-19 remains an issue of debate. Prior to COVID-19, most studies assessing the effectiveness of face masks as a protective measure in the community came from studies on influenza, which provided little evidence to support their use."
"Evidence for the effectiveness of non-medical face masks, face shields/visors and respirators in the community is scarce and of very low certainty. Additional high-quality studies are needed to assess the relevance of the use of medical face masks in the COVID-19 pandemic."
Considerations for the use of face masks in the community in the context of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant of concern
This document provides an update to and complements the ECDC technical report on “Using face masks in the community: first update - Effectiveness in reducing transmission of COVID-19” published on 15 February 2021.
You have this from the WHO from December https://www.who.int/publications/i/...of-the-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)-outbreak
On page 4 you get this tidbit:
Evidence on the use of mask in health care settings Systematic reviews have reported that the use of N95/P2 respirators compared with the use of medical masks (see mask definitions, above) is not associated with statistically significant differences for the outcomes of health workers acquiring clinical respiratory illness, influenza-like illness
Then you have this from the EU version of the CDC.
What did they say?
"The role of face masks in the control and prevention of COVID-19 remains an issue of debate. Prior to COVID-19, most studies assessing the effectiveness of face masks as a protective measure in the community came from studies on influenza, which provided little evidence to support their use."
"Evidence for the effectiveness of non-medical face masks, face shields/visors and respirators in the community is scarce and of very low certainty. Additional high-quality studies are needed to assess the relevance of the use of medical face masks in the COVID-19 pandemic."
Considerations for the use of face masks in the community in the context of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant of concern
This document provides an update to and complements the ECDC technical report on “Using face masks in the community: first update - Effectiveness in reducing transmission of COVID-19” published on 15 February 2021.www.ecdc.europa.eu
You can pick out sentences here and there in those articles, but the overall thrust of both is to support the use of masks by the general population since that has been shown to slow the spread of the disease.
Have you completed your assignment of writing a description of how vaccines work?
You realize that this phrase applies in both directions?
You wonder how I can care so little about bar owners, waitresses, and hotel maids.
I wonder how you can care so little about the elderly, the overweight, and the immunocompromised.
I just hope enough of us get the vaccine that it all becomes moot.
Key difference being, choice.
Bar Owners, Waitresses and Hotel Maids didn’t have a choice about loosing their income. That was forced upon them to protect a small part of the population.
That small part of the population, the Elderly, Overweight (definitely a self treatable condition) and the Immunocompromised all could have chosen to stay at home, have the community help support their needs and/or protect themselves should they need to leave their protected spaces.
Saved the Tax Payers TRILLIONS of dollars.
Desert Hound
DA
I agree they still want people to wear masks. Both recommend.
But at the same time they also say well there are no studies that show they actually work.
If you are going to make recommendations, it should be based on data/science. And yet they cannot at this time point to studies showing this. Which is why they both state more research needs to be done.
If masks worked, they would be pointing to the various studies supporting their suggestion people wear masks.
Prior to covid there however has been decades of studies related to masks and another similar virus (the flu). And they found that masks didn't work.
Desert Hound
DA
I gave you a variety of links a few days ago as to why there is no reason to be wearing masks when vaccinated.
CDC: Evidence suggests fully vaccinated people do not transmit COVID-19
More data is emerging about how effective COVID-19 vaccines are at making sure people do not get sick and reducing the chances they get others sick.
www.kxan.com
But the most important part of the recent CDC findings is that vaccinated people are very unlikely to suffer asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections. Participants in the study who were fully vaccinated with the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccines were 90% less likely to be infected with SARS-CoV-2. Of infections that did occur, only 10.7 percent were asymptomatic. Taken together, this means vaccinated people are highly unlikely to transmit the virus when they are not suffering symptoms.
It's official: Vaccinated people don't spread COVID-19
CDC Director Rochelle Walensky this week declared that "vaccinated people do not carry the virus."
Desert Hound
DA
Desert Hound
DA
Single pill cure for COVID-19 could be available this year
Drugmaker Pfizer is currently testing a single pill cure for COVID-19, and if all goes well, the drug could be available this year.
www.wate.com
Meanwhile over at The Hall of Justice...... lol!!! Wow, I didnt know Rudy got rolled up on the other day. By a show of hands, how many of you think Rudy will turn on Mr. T? This guy thinks Rudy will flip & snitch on t, what say you? Also, HB will be teaching a class on "fake news" in the Fall and Espola will be reporting back what he has learned from Professor Hunter.
I gave you a variety of links a few days ago as to why there is no reason to be wearing masks when vaccinated.
CDC: Evidence suggests fully vaccinated people do not transmit COVID-19
More data is emerging about how effective COVID-19 vaccines are at making sure people do not get sick and reducing the chances they get others sick.
But the most important part of the recent CDC findings is that vaccinated people are very unlikely to suffer asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections. Participants in the study who were fully vaccinated with the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccines were 90% less likely to be infected with SARS-CoV-2. Of infections that did occur, only 10.7 percent were asymptomatic. Taken together, this means vaccinated people are highly unlikely to transmit the virus when they are not suffering symptoms.
It's official: Vaccinated people don't spread COVID-19
CDC Director Rochelle Walensky this week declared that "vaccinated people do not carry the virus."fortune.com
"No reason"? Both of those articles admit that vaccinated people can still catch and spread the disease. Did someone tell you that they didn't?
And neither article describes how a vaccine works. Perhaps if you understood that (and you have presented no evidence that you do) you wouldn't be making all these errors.
Desert Hound
DA
"Cuomo Aides Spent Months Hiding Nursing Home Death Toll Aides to the New York governor, Andrew M. Cuomo, repeatedly prevented state health officials from releasing the number of nursing home deaths in the pandemic.
The effort by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo's office to obscure the pandemic death toll in New York nursing homes was far greater than previously known, with aides repeatedly overruling state health officials over a span of at least five months, according to interviews and newly unearthed documents.
Mr. Cuomo's most senior aides engaged in a sustained effort to prevent the state's own health officials, including the commissioner, Howard Zucker, from releasing the true death toll to the public or sharing it with state lawmakers, these interviews and documents showed."
Then you have this.
"New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is having a hard time holding his tongue.
The embattled governor lashed out Thursday, arguing it's not fair that the multiple women accusing him of sexual harassment have shared their stories publicly.
"What has happened is, the complainants have continued to go to the press and make their complaint in the press," Cuomo said during an appearance in Buffalo. "And I have not been able to respond. That's not fair and it's not right."
news.yahoo.com
So you have a guy that ordered records to be hidden from the public/press regarding nursing home deaths AND been accused now of sexual harassment from 9 women (most if not all who worked for him)...and yet he is still in office. By the way arguing it isn't fair? This is a guy that when other politicians had women issues, he immediately believed the women and called for their resignations. Suddenly he has a more "nuanced" view of women coming forward.
The press hasn't really pushed the issue with flood the zone coverage, and the usual "defenders" of women remain rather quiet. If he were a Repub he likely would have been forced to resign by now because the coverage/outrage would have been rather different.
So I put this in the bad news thread. What would it actually take to remove this guy?
These are the people we vote for. Cuomo? Hey your dad was Gov once? Yep based on that we should vote for you. We do it all the time. Like some politician and then later when one of their kids gets old enough suddenly we vote based on that last name. Kennedy, Bush, Brown...and the list goes on.
The effort by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo's office to obscure the pandemic death toll in New York nursing homes was far greater than previously known, with aides repeatedly overruling state health officials over a span of at least five months, according to interviews and newly unearthed documents.
Mr. Cuomo's most senior aides engaged in a sustained effort to prevent the state's own health officials, including the commissioner, Howard Zucker, from releasing the true death toll to the public or sharing it with state lawmakers, these interviews and documents showed."
Then you have this.
"New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is having a hard time holding his tongue.
The embattled governor lashed out Thursday, arguing it's not fair that the multiple women accusing him of sexual harassment have shared their stories publicly.
"What has happened is, the complainants have continued to go to the press and make their complaint in the press," Cuomo said during an appearance in Buffalo. "And I have not been able to respond. That's not fair and it's not right."
Cuomo claims ‘it’s not fair’ accusers have gone public with sexual harassment accusations
ALBANY, N.Y. — New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is having a hard time holding his tongue. The embattled governor lashed out Thursday, arguing it’s “not fair” that the multiple women accusing him of sexual harassment have shared their stories publicly. “What has happened is, the complainants have...
So you have a guy that ordered records to be hidden from the public/press regarding nursing home deaths AND been accused now of sexual harassment from 9 women (most if not all who worked for him)...and yet he is still in office. By the way arguing it isn't fair? This is a guy that when other politicians had women issues, he immediately believed the women and called for their resignations. Suddenly he has a more "nuanced" view of women coming forward.
The press hasn't really pushed the issue with flood the zone coverage, and the usual "defenders" of women remain rather quiet. If he were a Repub he likely would have been forced to resign by now because the coverage/outrage would have been rather different.
So I put this in the bad news thread. What would it actually take to remove this guy?
These are the people we vote for. Cuomo? Hey your dad was Gov once? Yep based on that we should vote for you. We do it all the time. Like some politician and then later when one of their kids gets old enough suddenly we vote based on that last name. Kennedy, Bush, Brown...and the list goes on.
They both include references to studies that support wearing masks n order to reduce the spread of the disease.
Did someone tell you that they don't, so you feel no need to actually read them yourself?
You really think the people dying in this pandemic were all out partying? The octogenarians snuck out of the rest home to go clubbing?
It works more like this: Susan gets covid at Hound’s bar. Susan’s boyfriend Kevin gets covid from Susan. Kevin gives covid to his roommates. One of Kevin’s roommates, Robert, is a janitor at Oak View Retirement Home. Robert goes room to room, carrying out the trash and vacuuming. Now 15 seniors at Oak View have covid. Three days later Robert’s test comes back positive and Oak View locks down. They get the outbreak under control, but only after 45 infections and 4 deaths.
None of the 4 had any “choice” in the matter.