Bad News Thread

crush · Apr 15, 2021

"More death, more death, more death!!!" These Corona News Network hacks are sickos and total losers. What makes people believe in fear, war, division, hate, race baiting and lying so much they speak that language? What makes people kill kids before their even hatched and then sell their organs and body parts to the highest sicko? Hearts go for big $$$ I'm told. Some evil mad scientist sickos ask for this and that so they can do whatever the hell they want to the babies body parts. Hello, time to wake the FUOJJOTC!!! keep kids isolated, keeps kids from being free, keep kids locked down with stupid mask that makes zero sense for kids to have to wear except to make them scared or fearful. I know some real smart folks who look real stupid today because they know now they got played. The Q I ask is what are you going to do about being 100% wrong and played?

Grace T. · Apr 15, 2021

You gov poll finds confidence in safety of covid vaccines plunges 15 points from 52% to 37% after j&j pause.

my best guess (pure spitballing) is as a result, even with the removal of j&j shots, we are (subject to Pfizer being paused) 2 weeks away from vaccine glut happening.

Desert Hound · Apr 15, 2021

Grace T. said:
Oxford study shows Pfizer vaccine has a similar incidence of blood clotting as az vaccine. Eu is taking under advisement whether need for a pause. Given what the us has done with j&j if sustained as true I don’t know how we don’t either.

The panic porn news industry fuels this...along with the CDC and other governing bodies.

We are looking at roughly 1 case per million doses. That is very safe. We wouldn't have Tylenol if we suspended it based on that standard.

What we do see and do is the following. If you are pregnant or have this condition or X condition do not take this medication (or check with your doctor). Why do they do that? Because no medicine/vaccine out there will not create some bad side affect with someone.

The difference is medicines/vaccines usually take years to get to the market. As such during testing they usually find out who should be careful, etc.

With the covid vax it was rushed out over the world (for good reason). We are now finding them to be VERY safe BUT certain people with certain conditions may be better of either A) not taking the vaccine or B) taking one of the other vaccines.

The press and CDC, etc are doing a disservice right now by highlighting extremely isolated cases AND talking about suspending certain vaxes.

Desert Hound · Apr 15, 2021

Desert Hound said:
The press and CDC, etc are doing a disservice right now by highlighting extremely isolated cases AND talking about suspending certain vaxes.

And keep this in mind as well.

"The CDC’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS, shows that just for the flu vaccines given out each and every year, there are a large number of people recording significant issues.

According to the CDC, “Approximately 30,000 VAERS reports are filed annually, with 10%-15% classified as serious (resulting in permanent disability, hospitalization, life-threatening illnesses or death).”

And yet, no self-respecting CDC member or FDA member would suggest you not take a flu vaccine. Why is the J&J different? Indeed, it appears not just to be safe, but just as safe as the annual flu vaccine, if not safer."

watfly · Apr 15, 2021

Desert Hound said:
We are looking at roughly 1 case per million doses. That is very safe. We wouldn't have Tylenol if we suspended it based on that standard.

As I saw one doctor say, doctors prescribe hundreds of other medicines everyday that have a much higher negative side effect rate including death than the J&J vaccine. Birth control is just one. Worst case, just put a pause on the vaccination for women.

How embarrassed are our ancestors of our 2020 fear of risk. It's crazy how we have expanded government over the last few decades to limit risk to the lowest common denominator. It not only encroaches on our freedoms but it drives up the cost of everything (without a commensurate level of return) because of gross overregulation. Where in our Constitution does it say were entitled to a risk free life? Give me the facts and let me decide.

Desert Hound · Apr 15, 2021

watfly said:
As I saw one doctor say, doctors prescribe hundreds of other medicines everyday that have a much higher negative side effect rate including death than the J&J vaccine. Birth control is just one. Worst case, just put a pause on the vaccination for women.

How embarrassed are our ancestors of our 2020 fear of risk. It's crazy how we have expanded government over the last few decades to limit risk to the lowest common denominator. It not only encroaches on our freedoms but it drives up the cost of everything (without a commensurate level of return) because of gross overregulation. Where in our Constitution does it say were entitled to a risk free life? Give me the facts and let me decide.

Your last paragraph is spot on.

crush · Apr 15, 2021

watfly · Apr 15, 2021

Some food for thought based on San Diego County covid deaths. My apologies to Dad4 for using survival rates.

				Mortality	Survival
		Mortality	Survival	Rate	Rate
	% of	Rate	Rate	of Total	of Total
	Population	If Infected	If Infected	Population	Population
0-9 years	13%	0.00%	100.00%	0.00%	100.00%
10-19 years	13%	0.01%	99.99%	0.00%	100.00%
20-29 years	16%	0.03%	99.97%	0.00%	100.00%
30-39 years	15%	0.06%	99.94%	0.01%	99.99%
40-49 years	12%	0.27%	99.73%	0.03%	99.97%
50-59 years	12%	0.87%	99.13%	0.08%	99.92%
0-60 Years	80%	0.20%	99.80%	0.02%	99.98%
60-69 years	10%	2.94%	97.06%	0.21%	99.79%
70-79 years	6%	7.72%	92.28%	0.43%	99.57%
80+ years	4%	19.29%	80.71%	1.34%	98.66%
0-80+ years	100%	1.33%	98.67%	0.11%	99.89%

crush · Apr 15, 2021

watfly said:
Some food for thought based on San Diego County covid deaths. My apologies to Dad4 for using survival rates.

Mortality Survival
Mortality Survival Rate Rate
% of Rate Rate of Total of Total
Population If Infected If Infected Population Population
0-9 years 13%
0.00%
100.00%
0.00%
100.00%
10-19 years 13%
0.01%
99.99%
0.00%
100.00%
20-29 years 16%
0.03%
99.97%
0.00%
100.00%
30-39 years 15%
0.06%
99.94%
0.01%
99.99%
40-49 years 12%
0.27%
99.73%
0.03%
99.97%
50-59 years 12%
0.87%
99.13%
0.08%
99.92%
0-60 Years 80%
0.20%
99.80%
0.02%
99.98%
60-69 years 10%
2.94%
97.06%
0.21%
99.79%
70-79 years 6%
7.72%
92.28%
0.43%
99.57%
80+ years 4%
19.29%
80.71%
1.34%
98.66%
0-80+ years 100%
1.33%
98.67%
0.11%
99.89%

My pal Dr Honest told me its A and B and forget about C.

Desert Hound · Apr 15, 2021

So he is saying it seems likely a 3rd dose is needed for their vaccine.

After that? Yearly boosters.

What does all this mean? We will be living with covid for years to come. Kind of like the flu. At some point we need to realize that and say well let us live our lives and deal with it like we do the flu (stop playing safety theater).

Pfizer CEO says third Covid vaccine dose likely needed within 12 months

Desert Hound · Apr 15, 2021

watfly said:
Some food for thought based on San Diego County covid deaths. My apologies to Dad4 for using survival rates.

Mortality Survival
Mortality Survival Rate Rate
% of Rate Rate of Total of Total
Population If Infected If Infected Population Population
0-9 years 13%
0.00%
100.00%
0.00%
100.00%
10-19 years 13%
0.01%
99.99%
0.00%
100.00%
20-29 years 16%
0.03%
99.97%
0.00%
100.00%
30-39 years 15%
0.06%
99.94%
0.01%
99.99%
40-49 years 12%
0.27%
99.73%
0.03%
99.97%
50-59 years 12%
0.87%
99.13%
0.08%
99.92%
0-60 Years 80%
0.20%
99.80%
0.02%
99.98%
60-69 years 10%
2.94%
97.06%
0.21%
99.79%
70-79 years 6%
7.72%
92.28%
0.43%
99.57%
80+ years 4%
19.29%
80.71%
1.34%
98.66%
0-80+ years 100%
1.33%
98.67%
0.11%
99.89%

Crazy right?

We ran around closing schools, worried about kids, shutting down biz, etc for what? The VAST VAST majority of people have no real risk.

Desert Hound · Apr 15, 2021

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1382601023441793026

Hüsker Dü · Apr 15, 2021

Grace T. said:
It did happen to me, thank you very much.

That’s obvious.

Hüsker Dü · Apr 15, 2021

dad4 said:
Not all in vain. Every so often, someone has a strong point and I learn something.

Just have to learn to filter out the Breitbart nonsense that is 90% of the posts.

Why Hüsker Dü? I haven't heard of them in years.

Cornhusker football got me there.

Hüsker Dü · Apr 15, 2021

crush said:
View attachment 10586

Is that from the trump’s troll brigade handbook?

Glitterhater · Apr 15, 2021

Desert Hound said:
The panic porn news industry fuels this...along with the CDC and other governing bodies.

We are looking at roughly 1 case per million doses. That is very safe. We wouldn't have Tylenol if we suspended it based on that standard.

What we do see and do is the following. If you are pregnant or have this condition or X condition do not take this medication (or check with your doctor). Why do they do that? Because no medicine/vaccine out there will not create some bad side affect with someone.

The difference is medicines/vaccines usually take years to get to the market. As such during testing they usually find out who should be careful, etc.

With the covid vax it was rushed out over the world (for good reason). We are now finding them to be VERY safe BUT certain people with certain conditions may be better of either A) not taking the vaccine or B) taking one of the other vaccines.

The press and CDC, etc are doing a disservice right now by highlighting extremely isolated cases AND talking about suspending certain vaxes.

This. You literally have a better chance being struck by lightning. The risk for the JnJ blood cot is less than 1 per million, I believe?

Desert Hound · Apr 15, 2021

Hüsker Dü said:
Cornhusker football got me there.

So bad football got you to a bad band. Makes sense now

watfly · Apr 15, 2021

Desert Hound said:
a bad band.

Watch your mouth, Sandman.

espola · Apr 15, 2021

Desert Hound said:
So he is saying it seems likely a 3rd dose is needed for their vaccine.

After that? Yearly boosters.

What does all this mean? We will be living with covid for years to come. Kind of like the flu. At some point we need to realize that and say well let us live our lives and deal with it like we do the flu (stop playing safety theater).

Pfizer CEO says third Covid vaccine dose likely needed within 12 months

It's like the flu shot you get every year. Or don't you?

Kicker4Life · Apr 15, 2021

dad4 said:
Just have to learn to filter out the Breitbart nonsense that is 90% of the posts.

Like the use of the term “fatal disease” to describe C19?

Desert Hound · Apr 15, 2021

espola said:
It's like the flu shot you get every year. Or don't you?

You missed the point...

People think covid is going to just go away. It isn't.

We are going to be living with this.

So the question is how hard will certain people and/or the gov keep trying to impose restrictions. Facemasks here, covid passports there, restrict gatherings, have stupid rules, related to schools, etc. Because listening to many of the so called experts, they are already talking about life not going back to normal.

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