Your post used to be interesting because there was usually something to refute. Now they're just empty "humor(?)".
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Your post used to be interesting because there was usually something to refute. Now they're just empty "humor(?)".
Yep, no shit. Seems like the trend with most people on here and with worshipped experts.
What do you think, is it a vaccine or a therapeutic?
It's a vaccine. Perhaps vaccines don't do what you think they should, especially with a disease for which little is known so far.
Perhaps it's not a vaccine if it's really only preventing me from getting sick but still allows me to get it and spread. Don't ya think?
Plenty of under the table debating going on in Pharma land. It must be sold as a vaccine though - so we'll call it a vaccine for now... even though it hasn't even been approved by the FDA.
Interesting about long COVID. Most likely explanation, though, is that long COVID has a psychosomatic component since the vaccine doesn't have any known properties that would magically make you feel instantly better.
I know you don't like it. But it is what the models say.
A 70% reduction in transmission is enough to reduce R below 1.
Most research shows that masks provide at least a 70% reduction, especially if you also close indoor dining.
However, if you only have 85% compliance, you still have an outbreak, because you still get R>1.0.
That seems to be what happened both here and later in Europe. At least 15% of people skipped masks and kept gathering, and that was enough to let covid keep growing.
You can learn from it, or not.
But ignoring it doesn't make it not true. Non compliance with masks and gatherings is a major factor in covid spread.
Yo, Jimbo
(As I said, I don't like insults. The whole Magoo thing is childish and annoying. Espola isn't blind or unaware of the world around him. You just don't like what he says. It no more thoughtful than EOTL's "Grace Karen" nonsense.)
Bruddah IZ
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Yes. That was my point. Despite all the transmission, the death rate is as predictable as its always been. What's your r-squared for COVID cases vs. deaths?
Bruddah IZ
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The models????? You mean the models that took past PCR test in to account from SARs-1? Lol!!
Bruddah IZ
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Why would you call it a vaccine when it's just M-RNA?
Bruddah IZ
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They granted Emergency Use Authorization to provide liability protection to Big Pharma.
It's a vaccine because of the mechanism by which it works - strengthening the body's natural response to invaders. It doesn't stop the invaders from getting in, and no vaccine ever developed is 100% effective.
What is missing from the doctor's bag is a cure - something that acts like penicillin used to do when it was first discovered.
Bruddah IZ
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And that mechanism is what?
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Funny how government interventions in financial markets are just like government interventions in healthcare/health insurance. Both industries have been bailed out AND indemnified in the last 20 years over fake crisis.
Bruddah IZ
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January 28th, 2021
Awesome charts for you today.
First, the ol' California vs. Florida issue again.
The best the excuse factory has been able to do is to pretend that Californians aren't complying with the regulations or they're not staying home. Why, they're still going to restaurants! This is supposed to be why California is doing worse than Florida at the present moment.
In fact, the evidence is the other way around. Here's a plot of restaurant visits in Florida (top line) alongside restaurant visits in California (bottom line):
You can look up the mechanism.
I believe the adenovirus injects the RNA into the cell, the RNA is translated into spike proteins, which are carried to the cell membrane for display.
At that point, the cell is identified and killed by the immune system, for the crime of displaying a weird protein. More importantly, the immune system begins to look out for more spike proteins.
Sounds like a vaccine to me. You wanted them to grow virus in eggs and boil it into submission?
Bruddah IZ
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Why not?? How do you think our species made it this far?
1. I object to the confluence of masks and gatherings. I agree social distancing helps to stop the spread of the virus. But if you go over to grandma with COVID and hang out with her for 3 hours at Christmas (like my church members did), sorry you are going to give grandma COVID.
2. Again, the model assumes the ideal. If it's not working in the real world, the model is clearly broken. I've given you additional explanations for why masks aren't work beyond people just refusing including: wearing them too long they get wet, improper usage (my god, the videos this week of people fumbling with them or touching them), washing them, reusing dirty ones, using bad ones (like bandanas or gaiters).
3. The Grace Karen thing is idiotic as an insult. Again, a Karen was originally applied to a white person (which I am not) complaining about a person of color (which I am). The problem with that insult isn't that it's an insult, but a bad one. The Karen thing has also been played out as it basically now refers to any woman that's a complainer.
4. Magoo, however, is very subtle and clever. Unfortunately, I did not come up with it. But it's a critique of the fact he gets lost and often can't "see" an argument despite his stubborn insistence that he does, plus he's a curmudgeon to boot.
5. It's why Buzz is perfect for you. First, it's not a very severe insult....everyone loves Buzz....in fact he was my eldest's favorite Disney character. But he is also very proud, thinks he's very heroic, is very math and science oriented (that "infinity" thing) and doesn't realize he's a toy despite everyone telling him and all the evidence around him. It's perfect!
"And in recent months, the meme has evolved into something new: Coronavirus Karen. This particular form of Karen refuses to wear a face covering in shops, won't stick to quarantine, and thinks the whole pandemic thing is overblown. "
What exactly is a 'Karen' and where did the meme come from?
To many the Karen meme - and its male equivalent Ken - sums up a specific type of white privilege.
www.bbc.com
There is a good video embedded in that article with a lot of Grace Karens speaking.
I certainly haven’t been on these forums as long as the rest of you, but based on my time here (aided in part by the champagne taste test in espola’s neighborhood) I’m more inclined to Droopy Dog.
He may not move fast, but is shrewd enough to outwit his foes.