Bad News Thread

Paging all my educated and smart parents on here. I know so many of you hold multiple degrees and many of you work in education and teach our kids math & science. I also know so many of you think I'm a moron, idiot and dam fool. So please smart ones, answer the following Q's for me and I will leave for good. To all my pro mask folks who mad dog me for not wearing one all the time over my nose, help me understand what is the truth. Since we all breath the same air, where are all the dead dogs & cats? Oh where, oh where are all the dead animals? Where are all the dead birds? Where oh where are all the dead homeless people who dont wear a mask? In fact, where are all the dead people who never wear a mask?
More Q's from dumb crush. Why is that when I walk into my pals Thai place that me and the wife have to wear a mask walking in but we can take mask off after we sit down? Does the Rona have respect when you sit down to eat and it goes away? Why is it you can sit in a full plane with 100s of folks but can't sit inside a church for an hour and a half? Why can Hound and I sit at a bar in AZ at 9:55pm for a drink but at 10:05pm, we have to leave? Rona comes out after 10:05pm? So many questions in my mind. Oh, and where did the flu go this year?

(why rona has a different impact on domestic animals.)

1- Different animals respond differently to each bacteria or virus.

Salmonella can kill us. In chickens, it is a natural probiotic that helps their digestion. Same bacteria, different animal, different result.

2- if rona killed one out of every thousand cats, are you sure you would you notice? I don’t think I’ve even seen 1000 cats in my life. We just care more when something kills people.

(why rona knows to leave you alone when eating or on planes)

3- rona doesn’t leave you alone when eating, or on planes. If the guy upwind of you at the restaurant breathes out rona, you are breathing it in. Same goes for planes.

(where did the flu go?)

4- We have no flu this year because we killed it with masks and distance.
 
(why rona has a different impact on domestic animals.)

1- Different animals respond differently to each bacteria or virus.

Salmonella can kill us. In chickens, it is a natural probiotic that helps their digestion. Same bacteria, different animal, different result.

2- if rona killed one out of every thousand cats, are you sure you would you notice? I don’t think I’ve even seen 1000 cats in my life. We just care more when something kills people.

(why rona knows to leave you alone when eating or on planes)

3- rona doesn’t leave you alone when eating, or on planes. If the guy upwind of you at the restaurant breathes out rona, you are breathing it in. Same goes for planes.

(where did the flu go?)

4- We have no flu this year because we killed it with masks and distance.
Dr Dad, you amaze me with your talents. Online Math teacher during the day and socal soccer doc the rest of the time. Listen, #4 just exposed you for weird science teacher. Good luck up in Nocal :)
 
The situation developing in Europe is a bit of a train wreck, with rising cases, high vaccines skepticism, and the AZ vaccine now paused in many countries. It's gotten so bad that EU officials are now talking mass vaccination with Sputnik vaccine imports.

Rumor also is that Sputnik works. So, huge ego hit, but not necessarily a bad idea.

Trump deserves credit for the vaccine deals, but it will be a long time before the left here will admit it.

Of course, it will also be a long time before the right is willing to blame trump for undermining the basic public health measures, though he deserves that, too.
 
Rumor also is that Sputnik works. So, huge ego hit, but not necessarily a bad idea.

Trump deserves credit for the vaccine deals, but it will be a long time before the left here will admit it.

Of course, it will also be a long time before the right is willing to blame trump for undermining the basic public health measures, though he deserves that, too.
Sputnik is actually on track to be the dominant vaccine world wide thanks to the tumble of az. It’s easier to handle than moderna and Pfizer and j&j put its eggs in the us approval. The Chinese vaccine has been viewed with more skepticism and reports are Sputnik may even be effective against the South Africa variant. It’s the likely dominant vaccine for Brazil, India, South Africa in addition to the moves from Eastern Europe to adopt. It’s also the likely lead vaccine for Mexico so if it doesn’t work or the data has been tampered with we are in for a huge mess just south of the border. Russia has also shown a willingness to let go of its supply despite the Russian population not being at full immunity (something politically in feasible in the us).
 
That’s because a stadium full of illegal immigrants is not a public health risk. A stadium full of unvaccinated people is a public health risk.

From a covid perspective, the vaccine passport is a good idea. Expect ticketmaster to require it for a year or so. Ticketmaster knows that mom buys the tickets, and Mom is not going to buy tickets if she thinks Susie is going to get sick at the concert.

Argue with mom if you like. It won’t change anything.
 
If you plan to travel, keep your vaccination records handy......

Well, it looks like my wife and I, and all the morons will need to stay put somewhere. No Vax, no travel which actually means the world controls your ass. Plus, it looks like some states will be just like China and the EU. Texas here we come. I better learn how to sell over the phone.
 
If you plan to travel, keep your vaccination records handy......

So the very same party that has a fit regarding voter ID...and in their big bill basically want to outlaw voter ID, will now advocate for essentially and ID to travel. In this case proof of vaccine.

A disease mind you that is not a concern health wise to the VAST majority of the population.
 
Some kernel or truth here...the early pro-lockdown US Covid stars have been all knocked down a peg or two (some more than others): Cuomo (scandal), Whitmer (scandal), Newsom (recall), Birx (retired), Fauci (while still very respected he's no longer universally admired, and he's 4th of July statements/vaccinated people statements were probably a bridge too far for most). True also of such European countries that had praise gushed on them such as Germany and the Czech Republic.

 
So the very same party that has a fit regarding voter ID...and in their big bill basically want to outlaw voter ID, will now advocate for essentially and ID to travel. In this case proof of vaccine.

A disease mind you that is not a concern health wise to the VAST majority of the population.

We tried the low intrusion methods of controlling disease. People like you refused to help.

What did you think would happen? CDC would watch a half million people die and send a tweet saying “the virus will virus”?

That is not how bureaucracies work.
 
From a covid perspective, the vaccine passport is a good idea. Expect ticketmaster to require it for a year or so. Ticketmaster knows that mom buys the tickets, and Mom is not going to buy tickets if she thinks Susie is going to get sick at the concert.

Argue with mom if you like. It won’t change anything.

I dunno about this. This is one of those thing like the economy which I'm very much in flux on and see two very different stories developing. Only about 1/3 of moms care already and don't want little Susie going out of the house. Another 1/3 know the vid probably isn't going away, the vid isn't harmful to little Susie, and Susie's probably going to eventually get it if she hasn't already. This 1/3 is ready to move beyond it, and if there's a choice (e.g., Disney isn't requiring them) I think the market is going to push them away from those with restrictions, particularly since for kids vaccine skepticism will run higher than for adults (while I'm perfectly fine getting an mRNA vaccine, I wouldn't stick it in my kids as long as it has an experimental label on it).
 
We tried the low intrusion methods of controlling disease. People like you refused to help.

What did you think would happen? CDC would watch a half million people die and send a tweet saying “the virus will virus”?

That is not how bureaucracies work.

Europe tried the higher intrusion methods of controlling disease. It didn't work. The EU is a ss.

I agree that the bureaucracies came under enormous pressure to "do something" so they did things which in the end may have only helped a little, and at a tremendous cost. That's what happens when people panic. Vaccine passports are different. We're now moving into the phase of how can we force everyone to vaccinate (possibly repeatedly vaccinate) given that they can't use force so long as the emergency use label is on the thing...where it gets ugly is when they turn to kids and try to force it, but the ability to have that fight is still a bit aways, hence this more soft power projection.
 
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