K. You were a worthy adversary. I tip my krillak to you, nanu nanu.
Still doesn't ring a bell.
Mork and Mindy?
It depends. For 99% of the world, you take a peek down your shorts, and that’s what you are. This is how normal people think.
Snort. Leave it to a mathematician to admire Wittgenstein. For those not on the inside joke Wittgenstein was a 20th century Austrian philosopher who had a strong admiration for mathematics and talked about the limits of language. Was also accused of extreme physical brutality towards his math students. He had an early phase, which is generally thought to be more empirical in the way language is limited and can affect our philosophical outcomes. He had a latter phase, where he generally attacked all philosophies and philosophy in general. He's the philosopher that in the latter 20th century everyone who wanted to seem smart would nod and call one of the very important masters, but who has increasingly become irrelevant in light of the rise of postmodernism on the left and law and economics on the right. In any case, generally omitted from most ethics and jurisprudence courses as his positioning is not particularly helpful in coming towards an answer to complex moral problems. Used more in the philosophy qua philosophy classes where they engage in the navel gazing about the meaning of philosophy and it's role. But in any case, not particularly useful, at least normatively, here.
I kinda say the same thing with the virulent post modernists types. As I wrote, sometimes there are no good answers, which is why I appreciate watfly's position...it's a least thoughtful and honest.
Admire Wittgenstein? I'm mocking you for bringing up philosophers instead of talking normally.
This thread blew up... It used to be born with Penis=man, Vagina=woman (still in my world and what I teach my kids). In many world it still is but for some very very very unusual reason, it's become difficult to some to accetp that....
I told you now several times. I told you too it’s not an easy answer because this is more complicated than you or watfly are prepared to acknowledge. I told you the starting point is whether the individual has gone through male puberty then posed 4 questions/conditions for the limited participation of others. I can’t help it if your mind is too small to comprehend it, but then youve always had pretensions towards intellect.
I think the answer is simple because 99% of women are real women and as a democracy we should cater to the majority and not 1 tranny with a mental issue like a Lia Thomas as an example. We need to see this issue from the perspective of nature from the perspective of democracy and from the perspective of biological women. Nothing against trannies but they are an anomaly and no way deserve to be put in the same level as real women especially when it comes to competitive sports. You want to play soccer go play soccer in another rec league but not in the top women’s league… if we start all of a sudden caring for the feelings of the 1% and shitting on the feelings of the 99% of the majority then we are definitely going backwards as a society. Women have been protected by men since day 1 and it should stay that way going forward. I take care of my wife and daughters and I’m responsible for their safety and well being as the man of the household. It’s been like that for thousands of years at least for real men who take care of their families.
What if you had a son (I'm assuming you have no son because you said daughters) that told you he was now a female and wants to play soccer with girls and against girls. Would you support you boy and his desires?
@Grace T. is just playing devils advocate. But she will come to her senses lol.
no I wouldn’t. I would tell him to come to his senses. In life decisions and acting on decisions have consequences. Just like breaking the law you may go to jail. I would tell him, if you want to chop your balls and penis off more power to you but accept the consequences that comes with that action. Take it like a man my boy and be ready to receive backlash from society if that’s the route you want to take in life. You will always be my son but you must realize that society may have a strong bias against you because you are going against nature. Same goes for pedos. Abuse a child and pay the consequences that society will see you different now and you might be ostracized.
Also think about it like this. Let’s say he transitions to a woman and likes heterosexual men. Do you think heterosexual men will see him as a woman ?
not in 1000 years. Go against what nature dealt you and you will pay the consequencesMy position is down the middle. Plenty for neither side to like.
This brings out the classical liberal in me and is always a prescription for tyranny (no wonder dad 4 likes it). Democracy isn’t some magic word that makes things ok. Democracy can be used to impose tyranny by the majority against the minority (look at segregation). That’s why we look to the rights of the individual even if that individual is only 1%. That’s why we protect the 1% even if you don’t like them. Now you may think that 1% should not play with the genetic females because it tramples on the rights of said females. But then it is incumbent on you to provide them an alternative that allows them to participate with the same rights and benefits as the 99%. And, for reasons I’ve shown with watfly, that’s not “play with the men” or “just play coed” otherwise it would be fine for the girls to just “play with the men” or “just play coed”. It’s called equality before the law and that applies to everyone whether the 99% or the 1%. Otherwise you may as well move to Venezuela or Russia and enjoy your democracy without rights.
Let's say you had a son that you named Samuel from the character in the Bible. You called him Sam all his young life and then he says when he's 14, "Dad, I am now Samantha, and I am your daughter Papi. My teacher helped me transition. I love him so much for his counseling and guidance through this difficult journey. I am not your boy anymore pops. Sorry, from now on you will call me Samantha or else." That's basically what is going on. One dad went off on his new daughter and she called the cops and now the State is involved. Kid is 16 so almost adult. A teacher helped him become a girl without the father knowing about it.
Then I go back to my argument to open up the third other gender category. It’s always been male and female for thousands of years. The neo liberals want to come and redefine reality to invent new sex genders outside of the natural binary gender that the Mammalian class naturally produces then recognize the other gender category in sports since trans numbers for this new generation are about 20% that equates to millions of trans now within that generation just in the USA alone. Why are they so quick to hide under the cisgender women umbrella? But they are so fast to identify as trans when its convenient
Shame on the public school system for illegal indoctrination of children. It’s always been parents in charge but the new neo liberal government thinks they can control our kids now… society has gone backwards. I would run as fast as you can from this backwards state if that happened to my family. Knock some sense back into that boy… Jesus Christ this reminds me of a tweet I saw from Musk sheesh
You claim to "LOVE LOVE LOVE" definitions.
It’s irrelevant for purposes of my test beyond “someone who has not gone through male puberty”. I lay out a test that doesn’t need a definition because even stupid Webster tied itself into knots. It’s not my fault you aren’t savvy enough to comprehend things.
