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It's still a dog.

No, it doesn't have a cat's brain. What even does that mean? You sequenced some brain cells and found cat DNA?

No. It means some advocate researchers took a look at MRI images and assures us that the MTF ones are girly.

How is "girly" defined? They don't mention that part. Nor do they explain whether they came up with the standard before or after inspecting the MTF brain scans. It just screams confirmation bias.

Let me know when it's good enough to be put to an actual test. A non-trans researcher collects 100+ MTF, gay male, and straight male MRIs, and your trans advocate tells us which are the MTF ones.
dad4 you made my day. Now you are the one challenging the bias in the studies. I love it. Thank God this day has come.

Well, let's start here. Do you accept that there are biological, structural differences in the brains of men and women? Do you think that's been established, yay or nay???
 
Do more research on some of the German scientists and the MTFs of their time. I'm not here to talk about a few Navy sailors that dress up as girl. You can talk to espola about that. My buddy was on a ship for over a year and told me some insane stories of men who dressed like girls and were passed around.
I love it crush! You made me laugh our loud! That was very funny.

o.k. but you know the Nazis considered homosexuals deviants, put them into concentration camps, and executed many of them? There was even a pink triangle for prisoners (which makes a prominent and very dramatic entrance at the end of the stage version of cabaret). The entire point (which is what confused me at first about what statement you exactly were making) of cabaret is that the Nazis shut down the gay and trans friendly atmosphere of the Weimar era. The drag used by both sides wasn't necessarily a trans statement (though some gay soldiers have admitted it did bring about a freedom to explore) but rather a burlesque similar to black face that was directed at making fun to a certain extent of women, gay people and the situation of being in a female-free place in the middle of a war.
 
I love it crush! You made me laugh our loud! That was very funny.

o.k. but you know the Nazis considered homosexuals deviants, put them into concentration camps, and executed many of them? There was even a pink triangle for prisoners (which makes a prominent and very dramatic entrance at the end of the stage version of cabaret). The entire point (which is what confused me at first about what statement you exactly were making) of cabaret is that the Nazis shut down the gay and trans friendly atmosphere of the Weimar era.
I love making people laugh. Thanks for dopamine. I was running low. If I get "likes" and "laughs" it keeps me going.
 
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I love it crush! You made me laugh our loud! That was very funny.

o.k. but you know the Nazis considered homosexuals deviants, put them into concentration camps, and executed many of them? There was even a pink triangle for prisoners (which makes a prominent and very dramatic entrance at the end of the stage version of cabaret). The entire point (which is what confused me at first about what statement you exactly were making) of cabaret is that the Nazis shut down the gay and trans friendly atmosphere of the Weimar era. The drag used by both sides wasn't necessarily a trans statement (though some gay soldiers have admitted it did bring about a freedom to explore) but rather a burlesque similar to black face that was directed at making fun to a certain extent of women, gay people and the situation of being in a female-free place in the middle of a war.
Back to the Nazis. Yes, those assholes treated homosexuals like shit. These dudes are not gay. You did see Shawshank Redemption, right? Poor Andy had to dea with those animals for years and it wasn't pretty. Sometimes Andy would get the upper hand and at other times he had to take it. We're talking Bogs and Rooster here in scientist suites doing experiments on humans. These are wild animals that are not 100% human. Half wolf and half human. Deep shit but were waking up to these monsters. These same liars came over to America after WW2 as scientists that started NASA among other things and helped with big pharma and their big experiments on us. Admiral Byrd went hunting for them and was killed for it.

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dad4 you made my day. Now you are the one challenging the bias in the studies. I love it. Thank God this day has come.

Well, let's start here. Do you accept that there are biological, structural differences in the brains of men and women? Do you think that's been established, yay or nay???

Overall research survey of brain structure and chemistry differences by sex? Not my area of expertise, so no answer from me.

I can read the methods section of a paper. If it is a highly political topic and they didn't blind the researchers, it goes in the dust bin.

That logic also applies to covid, in case you were wondering.
 
Overall research survey of brain structure and chemistry differences by sex? Not my area of expertise, so no answer from me.

I can read the methods section of a paper. If it is a highly political topic and they didn't blind the researchers, it goes in the dust bin.

That logic also applies to covid, in case you were wondering.

O.k. I'll have to do the remedial and walk you through the socratic dialogue. See above. It's pretty well established that there are observable, physiological differences in the brains between men and women. That's fact is beyond debate at this point. Setting aside the open question as to which differences are relevant and why which for our purposes are beside the point.

The studies which have been done on trans brains are observational. Why are they observational? For the same reason that the studies between mens and womens brains are observational. Because there isn't a blind RCT you can do here. The function of the study is to determine if they are different. That's all. Not the degree or significance of those difference.

Have they detected a difference? Yes. Is it measurable? Yes. How broad is it...for example do we have a No True Scotsman problem that this person is trans and therefore different but this person is not really trans? Yes. But is there a correlation, so that unusually, the brains of MTF trans seem to have female structures? Yes, and vice versa BTW. Would doing a RCT come to a different conclusion? No because the only thing we are doing is observing to see if there's a correlation and then saying "my that's interesting". Is it possible that because of the particular research that only those with an axe to grind are doing it? Yes, but here's the thing...the trans activist community hates this and has actually been working to not do the research. Why? Because it would bolster the case that it's under the disability rubric, and more scarily, might open the door to the same conclusions being drawn for gay individuals.

Furthermore, what other link are people now suggesting (but reluctant to explore) about trans individuals? Autism. Is the trans community happy with that possible link? No...the school shooting thing scares the bejeezus out of them. Why? Because then this isn't a trans issue but instead becomes an autism issue, again putting it under the disability rubric. Do you need a RCT to determine this? No because again it's an observational study in which we are trying to see if there is some correlation, nothing more.


Now take COVID. For your mask argument, an observational study in fact doesn't do it. Why? Because we want to see whether or not there is in fact a noticeable effect from the intervention, yet you and others were quick to trot out all those mannequin studies, despite other observational studies that showed the mask wasn't very effective unless it was an N95. So what's the difference? The difference is you believed in one issue and not another, and that's not science, but religion.

Help me out translator.

Me: "if it's a highly political topic and they didn't blind the researchers, it goes into the dust bin"

My handydandy dad4 translator: "If it's something I disagree with, I'll find the excuse to put it into the dust bin."

Me: "Ah. Thanks translator."

:p
 

O.k. I'll have to do the remedial and walk you through the socratic dialogue. See above. It's pretty well established that there are observable, physiological differences in the brains between men and women. That's fact is beyond debate at this point. Setting aside the open question as to which differences are relevant and why which for our purposes are beside the point.

The studies which have been done on trans brains are observational. Why are they observational? For the same reason that the studies between mens and womens brains are observational. Because there isn't a blind RCT you can do here. The function of the study is to determine if they are different. That's all. Not the degree or significance of those difference.

Have they detected a difference? Yes. Is it measurable? Yes. How broad is it...for example do we have a No True Scotsman problem that this person is trans and therefore different but this person is not really trans? Yes. But is there a correlation, so that unusually, the brains of MTF trans seem to have female structures? Yes, and vice versa BTW. Would doing a RCT come to a different conclusion? No because the only thing we are doing is observing to see if there's a correlation and then saying "my that's interesting". Is it possible that because of the particular research that only those with an axe to grind are doing it? Yes, but here's the thing...the trans activist community hates this and has actually been working to not do the research. Why? Because it would bolster the case that it's under the disability rubric, and more scarily, might open the door to the same conclusions being drawn for gay individuals.

Furthermore, what other link are people now suggesting (but reluctant to explore) about trans individuals? Autism. Is the trans community happy with that possible link? No...the school shooting thing scares the bejeezus out of them. Why? Because then this isn't a trans issue but instead becomes an autism issue, again putting it under the disability rubric. Do you need a RCT to determine this? No because again it's an observational study in which we are trying to see if there is some correlation, nothing more.


Now take COVID. For your mask argument, an observational study in fact doesn't do it. Why? Because we want to see whether or not there is in fact a noticeable effect from the intervention, yet you and others were quick to trot out all those mannequin studies, despite other observational studies that showed the mask wasn't very effective unless it was an N95. So what's the difference? The difference is you believed in one issue and not another, and that's not science, but religion.

Help me out translator.

Me: "if it's a highly political topic and they didn't blind the researchers, it goes into the dust bin"

My handydandy dad4 translator: "If it's something I disagree with, I'll find the excuse to put it into the dust bin."

Me: "Ah. Thanks translator."

:p
BTW the way I'm so happy this day has finally come and you get hoisted on you own petard. Thank you God! Owe you one!
 

O.k. I'll have to do the remedial and walk you through the socratic dialogue. See above. It's pretty well established that there are observable, physiological differences in the brains between men and women. That's fact is beyond debate at this point. Setting aside the open question as to which differences are relevant and why which for our purposes are beside the point.

The studies which have been done on trans brains are observational. Why are they observational? For the same reason that the studies between mens and womens brains are observational. Because there isn't a blind RCT you can do here. The function of the study is to determine if they are different. That's all. Not the degree or significance of those difference.

Have they detected a difference? Yes. Is it measurable? Yes. How broad is it...for example do we have a No True Scotsman problem that this person is trans and therefore different but this person is not really trans? Yes. But is there a correlation, so that unusually, the brains of MTF trans seem to have female structures? Yes, and vice versa BTW. Would doing a RCT come to a different conclusion? No because the only thing we are doing is observing to see if there's a correlation and then saying "my that's interesting". Is it possible that because of the particular research that only those with an axe to grind are doing it? Yes, but here's the thing...the trans activist community hates this and has actually been working to not do the research. Why? Because it would bolster the case that it's under the disability rubric, and more scarily, might open the door to the same conclusions being drawn for gay individuals.

Furthermore, what other link are people now suggesting (but reluctant to explore) about trans individuals? Autism. Is the trans community happy with that possible link? No...the school shooting thing scares the bejeezus out of them. Why? Because then this isn't a trans issue but instead becomes an autism issue, again putting it under the disability rubric. Do you need a RCT to determine this? No because again it's an observational study in which we are trying to see if there is some correlation, nothing more.


Now take COVID. For your mask argument, an observational study in fact doesn't do it. Why? Because we want to see whether or not there is in fact a noticeable effect from the intervention, yet you and others were quick to trot out all those mannequin studies, despite other observational studies that showed the mask wasn't very effective unless it was an N95. So what's the difference? The difference is you believed in one issue and not another, and that's not science, but religion.

Help me out translator.

Me: "if it's a highly political topic and they didn't blind the researchers, it goes into the dust bin"

My handydandy dad4 translator: "If it's something I disagree with, I'll find the excuse to put it into the dust bin."

Me: "Ah. Thanks translator."

:p
p.p.s. progressive BTW also HATE HATE these studies, as outlined in the Stanford article because it undermines the entire notion that the differences between gay/straight; classes; races; and gender (see what happened to Summers and women with math) are biological rather than cultural. The right hates it because it has nasty implications for genetic determinency and that precious meritocracy that Rawls criticized. The answer is yah both wrong...and that has profound implications from everything from politics, to sports, to economics to philosophy to jurisprudence. Which is why they are terrified of it.

"I understand" "Do you?" "Do YOU? I'm telling you this is it. This is it"
 
Bullying isn't really a laughing matter for me. Have seen it happen to too many African American players. Not gonna laugh that off either and it's a poor excuse. What you said in dealing with a minor is reprehensible. If I saw it directed against any players the reds and yellows are coming out and I'd noted it and bring it up to the league so there would be team/club consequences. If you were a parent on my kids team, I'd raise holy hell. And if I were a spectator, I'd be prepared to defend that youth. Inexcusable. Nothing funny about it.

p.s. I would much rather be a wet blanket at parties than the guy cracking the off colored joke that no one wants to hang around because he's cringe.
Who is laughing at bullying? And when did African American players parachute into this conversation?

In "dealing with a minor"? You really have blown a gasket. I'm talking about boys hurting girls in sports. And the girls have 2 options: fight back or walk off the field and say they refuse to allow males to complete in a female league.

Again, during your marathon rant, which is nearly every one of your posts, you insert random shit nobody ever said and there are now multiple posters talking about you doing it. You went from wet blanket to straight jacket.
 
Who is laughing at bullying? And when did African American players parachute into this conversation?

In "dealing with a minor"? You really have blown a gasket. I'm talking about boys hurting girls in sports. And the girls have 2 options: fight back or walk off the field and say they refuse to allow males to complete in a female league.

Again, during your marathon rant, which is nearly every one of your posts, you insert random shit nobody ever said and there are now multiple posters talking about you doing it. You went from wet blanket to straight jacket.
You used the specific words "target". Your word. Not mine. Assuming your daughter is a minor, it's disgusting. Not only that, if intentional and results in harm, even possibly criminal.

In your current post first off all you are assuming the boy is making a deliberate attempt to hurt the girl. Second, the correct option is to refuse if you feel that way and take the ramifications which come with it (which in California is probably the club getting in substantial trouble). There is nothing funny about your post. Hey you are one of the posters around here whose reasoning I respect, but as I've written before, you are better than this. You are the cringe guy at the party telling bigoted off colored jokes that everyone rolls their eyes at. And saying you want to target a minor rather than walk away is evil, and I hope if you ever do try it, they throw the book at you and anyone that supports your idea.
 
p.p.s. progressive BTW also HATE HATE these studies, as outlined in the Stanford article because it undermines the entire notion that the differences between gay/straight; classes; races; and gender (see what happened to Summers and women with math) are biological rather than cultural. The right hates it because it has nasty implications for genetic determinency and that precious meritocracy that Rawls criticized. The answer is yah both wrong...and that has profound implications from everything from politics, to sports, to economics to philosophy to jurisprudence. Which is why they are terrified of it.

"I understand" "Do you?" "Do YOU? I'm telling you this is it. This is it"
Who are you talking to with these replies... besides yourself?
 
You used the specific words "target". Your word. Not mine. Assuming your daughter is a minor, it's disgusting. Not only that, if intentional and results in harm, even possibly criminal.

In your current post first off all you are assuming the boy is making a deliberate attempt to hurt the girl. Second, the correct option is to refuse if you feel that way and take the ramifications which come with it (which in California is probably the club getting in substantial trouble). There is nothing funny about your post. Hey you are one of the posters around here whose reasoning I respect, but as I've written before, you are better than this. You are the cringe guy at the party telling bigoted off colored jokes that everyone rolls their eyes at. And saying you want to target a minor rather than walk away is evil, and I hope if you ever do try it, they throw the book at you and anyone that supports your idea.
Athletes hurting each other in competition is rarely ever criminal. Second, if a male hurts a female because he's wearing pink cleats and pretending to be female, he's as deliberate as anyone. Males don't have any business in female sports. Finally, who was trying to be funny about that? You don't know me from any parties. You're going off the rails again, making assumptions and putting words in people's mouths. I did say a man walking into a female restroom with my daughter in it is going to have problems if he doesn't immediately walk out. That's just a fact.

I don't know where you dreamed up this shit about me targeting minors but it's made up on your end. I wrote nothing of the sort.
 
Athletes hurting each other in competition is rarely ever criminal. Second, if a male hurts a female because he's wearing pink cleats and pretending to be female, he's as deliberate as anyone. Males don't have any business in female sports. Finally, who was trying to be funny about that? You don't know me from any parties. You're going off the rails again, making assumptions and putting words in people's mouths. I did say a man walking into a female restroom with my daughter in it is going to have problems if he doesn't immediately walk out. That's just a fact.

I don't know where you dreamed up this shit about me targeting minors but it's made up on your end. I wrote nothing of the sort.
You used the word “target”. Your word not mine.

You don’t understand the law in California. Your daughter deliberately targets someone on the field because they are trans, or gay, or black, or wear a Yamaka, and they get injured, it’s not just sports but an aggravated condition that makes it a crime.

And you assault a trans person using the same bathroom as your daughter who isn’t doing anything else (like showing something unwanted) and you going to jail. I dare you to try it and report back. It’s all bluster. You’d be finished.

Don’t like it? The correct answer in both instances is walk away and take whatever consequences. Physical violence is not excusable whether legally or morally. If you really believe this and it’s not just all poor little tough guy bluster, you are a sick sick evil person. I truly hope it’s not and it’s all talk. Because if it is, I hope you get everything you have coming to you.
 

O.k. I'll have to do the remedial and walk you through the socratic dialogue. See above. It's pretty well established that there are observable, physiological differences in the brains between men and women. That's fact is beyond debate at this point. Setting aside the open question as to which differences are relevant and why which for our purposes are beside the point.

The studies which have been done on trans brains are observational. Why are they observational? For the same reason that the studies between mens and womens brains are observational. Because there isn't a blind RCT you can do here. The function of the study is to determine if they are different. That's all. Not the degree or significance of those difference.

Have they detected a difference? Yes. Is it measurable? Yes. How broad is it...for example do we have a No True Scotsman problem that this person is trans and therefore different but this person is not really trans? Yes. But is there a correlation, so that unusually, the brains of MTF trans seem to have female structures? Yes, and vice versa BTW. Would doing a RCT come to a different conclusion? No because the only thing we are doing is observing to see if there's a correlation and then saying "my that's interesting". Is it possible that because of the particular research that only those with an axe to grind are doing it? Yes, but here's the thing...the trans activist community hates this and has actually been working to not do the research. Why? Because it would bolster the case that it's under the disability rubric, and more scarily, might open the door to the same conclusions being drawn for gay individuals.

Furthermore, what other link are people now suggesting (but reluctant to explore) about trans individuals? Autism. Is the trans community happy with that possible link? No...the school shooting thing scares the bejeezus out of them. Why? Because then this isn't a trans issue but instead becomes an autism issue, again putting it under the disability rubric. Do you need a RCT to determine this? No because again it's an observational study in which we are trying to see if there is some correlation, nothing more.


Now take COVID. For your mask argument, an observational study in fact doesn't do it. Why? Because we want to see whether or not there is in fact a noticeable effect from the intervention, yet you and others were quick to trot out all those mannequin studies, despite other observational studies that showed the mask wasn't very effective unless it was an N95. So what's the difference? The difference is you believed in one issue and not another, and that's not science, but religion.

Help me out translator.

Me: "if it's a highly political topic and they didn't blind the researchers, it goes into the dust bin"

My handydandy dad4 translator: "If it's something I disagree with, I'll find the excuse to put it into the dust bin."

Me: "Ah. Thanks translator."

:p

Observable differences is a very weak standard. There are "observable differences" between men and women's heights. That doesn't mean we look at a short man and conclude he must be female because he has "a woman's stature.".

The Stanford study was worse than that. (I know someone who worked on it.). They asked for volunteers to sort the MRIs, and told them the study was about trans brain chemistry. So they created the possibility that their researchers came in with an interest in the results.

They then failed to blind the data. The volunteers knew which scans are trans, because it was in the file structure. The volunteers also knew which pattern corresponded to typical female and which corresponded to typical male.

Unsurprisingly, the volunteers then sorted the trans women in with the other women. After they had been told which were which.

Dust bin. Confirmation bias alone could explain the result.
 
Observable differences is a very weak standard. There are "observable differences" between men and women's heights. That doesn't mean we look at a short man and conclude he must be female because he has "a woman's stature.".

The Stanford study was worse than that. (I know someone who worked on it.). They asked for volunteers to sort the MRIs, and told them the study was about trans brain chemistry. So they created the possibility that their researchers came in with an interest in the results.

They then failed to blind the data. The volunteers knew which scans are trans, because it was in the file structure. The volunteers also knew which pattern corresponded to typical female and which corresponded to typical male.

Unsurprisingly, the volunteers then sorted the trans women in with the other women. After they had been told which were which.

Dust bin. Confirmation bias alone could explain the result.
1. Observable differences: from an observable study it would be sufficient to conclude men are generally taller than women.
2. Your second point about blinding is a valid critique. That doesn’t mean the study doesn’t purport to show what it shows…just that it’s a valid critique which should justifiably influence the confidence in the conclusion (it also doesn’t make it zero because of the below)
3. The ability to blind is limited. Why? Well that’s why I started with my first question about whether you accept that there are observable differences in male and female brains. Because you have to have a baseline to conduct the analysis and any one familiar with neurophysiology (heck I could do it) will be able to tell the difference between a male and female brain instantly. So controlling for that is a problem. The differences are just that vast.
4. How do we know the male female differences are conclusive? That easy they’ve run them through ai and had the ai do it. The studies in the last 4 years on the subject have been fascinating
5. So how do we control for it? Well the studies have been run in excess of 20 times and have run a variety of measures including hormonal, neuropathways, structure sizes, neurological responses. It’s enough to comfortably determine something is going on here.
6. Why then don’t they use ai to do the comparison? It’s simple. Something happened in 2018 that the lgbtq community began objecting to these trans studies. Why? Well part of the concern is around the concern that researchers became uncomfortable with the male female studies because of the ramifications. So why were they able to run it through ai? Because the sample size is larger so it’s easier to get participants.
7. Sample size is actually a much more valid critique of the studies since short of ai (which itself might be influenced by the programmer and would be to be programmed “dumb” to not prejudge) there is no way to completely control for the blind issue, which as you know is a common problem in observational studies, such as if we were to conduct a study comparing the heights of men and women
8. That’s why the autism link is so fascinating (but it’s also subject to the critique that the diagnosis of autism and whether someone is on the spectrum is more of an art than a science). But that’s just a statistical number that indicates there is a correlation (but not necessarily causation) because the incidence of reported autism runs higher in the trans pop
9. So if your point is “it hasn’t been proved” you are entirely correct. But if your point is there is no proof that there is a neurological connection then that’s just hooey. There’s enough proof now to say there more likely than not is such a connection though we cant exactly say for sure what that connection is.
10. Were back to you are willing to excuse the methodolgy when you agree with the conclusion but not when you don’t. Which is your usual dreck.
 
1. Observable differences: from an observable study it would be sufficient to conclude men are generally taller than women.
2. Your second point about blinding is a valid critique. That doesn’t mean the study doesn’t purport to show what it shows…just that it’s a valid critique which should justifiably influence the confidence in the conclusion (it also doesn’t make it zero because of the below)
3. The ability to blind is limited. Why? Well that’s why I started with my first question about whether you accept that there are observable differences in male and female brains. Because you have to have a baseline to conduct the analysis and any one familiar with neurophysiology (heck I could do it) will be able to tell the difference between a male and female brain instantly. So controlling for that is a problem. The differences are just that vast.
4. How do we know the male female differences are conclusive? That easy they’ve run them through ai and had the ai do it. The studies in the last 4 years on the subject have been fascinating
5. So how do we control for it? Well the studies have been run in excess of 20 times and have run a variety of measures including hormonal, neuropathways, structure sizes, neurological responses. It’s enough to comfortably determine something is going on here.
6. Why then don’t they use ai to do the comparison? It’s simple. Something happened in 2018 that the lgbtq community began objecting to these trans studies. Why? Well part of the concern is around the concern that researchers became uncomfortable with the male female studies because of the ramifications. So why were they able to run it through ai? Because the sample size is larger so it’s easier to get participants.
7. Sample size is actually a much more valid critique of the studies since short of ai (which itself might be influenced by the programmer and would be to be programmed “dumb” to not prejudge) there is no way to completely control for the blind issue, which as you know is a common problem in observational studies, such as if we were to conduct a study comparing the heights of men and women
8. That’s why the autism link is so fascinating (but it’s also subject to the critique that the diagnosis of autism and whether someone is on the spectrum is more of an art than a science). But that’s just a statistical number that indicates there is a correlation (but not necessarily causation) because the incidence of reported autism runs higher in the trans pop
9. So if your point is “it hasn’t been proved” you are entirely correct. But if your point is there is no proof that there is a neurological connection then that’s just hooey. There’s enough proof now to say there more likely than not is such a connection though we cant exactly say for sure what that connection is.
10. Were back to you are willing to excuse the methodolgy when you agree with the conclusion but not when you don’t. Which is your usual dreck.
Btw my younger bro (who looked at these in depth for a case he handled a while back) points out that 2018-2020 was the time period in which gender fluidity came to the forefront…the notion that gender is a spectrum instead of poles. These studies put a dagger through gender fluidity, hence why they fell out of fashion in the lgbtq+ community around said time period.
 
You used the word “target”. Your word not mine.

You don’t understand the law in California. Your daughter deliberately targets someone on the field because they are trans, or gay, or black, or wear a Yamaka, and they get injured, it’s not just sports but an aggravated condition that makes it a crime.

And you assault a trans person using the same bathroom as your daughter who isn’t doing anything else (like showing something unwanted) and you going to jail. I dare you to try it and report back. It’s all bluster. You’d be finished.

Don’t like it? The correct answer in both instances is walk away and take whatever consequences. Physical violence is not excusable whether legally or morally. If you really believe this and it’s not just all poor little tough guy bluster, you are a sick sick evil person. I truly hope it’s not and it’s all talk. Because if it is, I hope you get everything you have coming to you.
You vomited that already. You're the one that implied I planned to target some sub 18-year old boy in lipstick. That's your imagination.

Aggravated condition? LMAO! Good luck with that in court. Dirty players receive their just desserts everyday. That's how it should be.

I'll repeat myself again for you: If a man walks into a female bathroom, whether my daughter is in there or not, he's going to be given 1 chance to immediately walk out under HIS own power. If he chooses not to, he's leaving against his will or he'll leave when he regains consciousness. Men don't belong in the women's restroom. If you can't grasp that, the problem is you... not me or millions of other men & women that would do the same thing.
 
I did say a man walking into a female restroom with my daughter in it is going to have problems if he doesn't immediately walk out.
So when my son's FTM friend has to use women's bathroom (as an adult) because you believe it should be based on biological sex, are you going to beat the shit out of him? Because he looks like a dude and you'd have no clue he is female unless he provided a genetic test to you. Is that the new standard for using a bathroom, carrying a genetic test to show to guys like you so don't beat the shit out of a woman who looks like a man?
 
So when my son's FTM friend has to use women's bathroom (as an adult) because you believe it should be based on biological sex, are you going to beat the shit out of him? Because he looks like a dude and you'd have no clue he is female unless he provided a genetic test to you. Is that the new standard for using a bathroom, carrying a genetic test to show to guys like you so don't beat the shit out of a woman who looks like a man?
Oh please. I have a question. Why is the "B" in LBGQT identified as Bi? Bi to me means, I like to be with two genders because their are only two bro. T should just mean Tri, right? I actually know a guy that has a Three's Company relationship with two Bi girls. He's straight as an arrow but loves his set up.
 
So when my son's FTM friend has to use women's bathroom (as an adult) because you believe it should be based on biological sex, are you going to beat the shit out of him? Because he looks like a dude and you'd have no clue he is female unless he provided a genetic test to you. Is that the new standard for using a bathroom, carrying a genetic test to show to guys like you so don't beat the shit out of a woman who looks like a man?
What do you suggest that's a better alternative? If you're a FTM, go use the men's bathroom. You aren't fooling anybody but good luck getting that one stall. That's why you need a stall... because you're not a male. And my daughter isn't in that bathroom anyway. You want to lift your leg in the boy's urinal, have at it, because I'll be in there with my son.

Are we supposed to just be okay with Hulk Hogan walking into the women's bathroom because he's wearing a skirt and carrying a purse? I'm talking about a grown ass man, that's clearly a man, pretending to be a woman. And I guess all of you miss the part about being given the opportunity to walk out peacefully. Sorry... FTM rarely fool anybody. You're just a female wearing flannel and a short haircut.
 
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