'23-'24 SoCal and National Forecast and Updates

BigTex said:
Nvm, got my answer.
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Was it an error? Did the 4th seed really beat the one seed that bad? If so… that means there were few other 4’s beating 1’s yesterday. Maybe the ECNL seeding can look at a strength of schedule seeding for next year.
 
Darmah said:
Was it an error? Did the 4th seed really beat the one seed that bad? If so… that means there were few other 4’s beating 1’s yesterday. Maybe the ECNL seeding can look at a strength of schedule seeding for next year.
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Not an error. Surf neatly dismantled them.

Strength of schedule seeding would help a lot. Just use conference results to determine who goes, then use SR to set up the brackets.

The other factor is last minute roster additions and deletions. You could "fix" the additions, but any solution would undermine the league's ability to put high skill kids in front of college scouts. Not worth it.
 
If you can keep MVLA out of their style of play its usually game over for them. But, a 0-5 loss is out of character for this matchup.
Both teams were down a few players to injuries prior to the game but i doubt that had anything to do with the score.
 
I was surprised by the result as well. I know that when a team that is used to winning and rarely loses gets put under pressure and falls behind, things can get ugly quick, espescially if a team has a few "me me me" players. Soccer is a team sport.
 
Matchfit (NA), La Roca (NW), Sporting Blue Valley (MW), Ohio Elite (OV), Atlanta Fire (SE), Alabama (SE), UFA (SE), NC Courage (MA) and Charlotte(MA) have been eliminated. The Southeast division is having an ugly showing and that is putting it lightly. All SE teams could be eliminated by the end of the day.

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MARsSPEED said:
Matchfit (NA), La Roca (NW), Sporting Blue Valley (MW), Ohio Elite (OV), Atlanta Fire (SE), Alabama (SE), UFA (SE), NC Courage (MA) and Charlotte(MA) have been eliminated. The Southeast division is having an ugly showing and that is putting it lightly. All SE teams could be eliminated by the end of the day.

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The winner of the Southwest Mojave(Beach) and Sonoran(Arsenal) are very close to being eliminated as well... the odds are not in their favor going into tomorrow.

The two 4th seeds (Koge and Surf) from the SW are leading their groups with no goals against.
 
MARsSPEED said:
I was surprised by the result as well. I know that when a team that is used to winning and rarely loses gets put under pressure and falls behind, things can get ugly quick, espescially if a team has a few "me me me" players. Soccer is a team sport.
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Soccer is a team sport 100% and that's why the best teams usually win come tournament time. "Me, me, pass me the ball," helps the "Me Player" but hurts the team.
 
Surf at a 4 seed is a farce. Surf at a 4 seed in group B is even more ridiculous. Technically, they would be 43 of 44 seeds in a snake draw. Playing them today, they are my favorite for the event. Muncho props to them, they are as complete as they come!
 
BigTex said:
Surf at a 4 seed is a farce. Surf at a 4 seed in group B is even more ridiculous. Technically, they would be 43 of 44 seeds in a snake draw. Playing them today, they are my favorite for the event. Muncho props to them, they are as complete as they come!
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Another parent also told me Surf was missing their starting winger and their US Youth National Team outside back.
 
Darmah said:
Another parent also told me Surf was missing their starting winger and their US Youth National Team outside back.
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yea..both with knees.
its a bad deal for sure. San Juan, Legends also have kids out with knees just in the last 3 weeks.

The 09 USYNT has already had 2 domestic and 1 international camp. Out of all those kids, maybe 30-35 total, 5 of them are, or have been, out for serious knee injuries (ie.. requiring surgery)
 
Yikes. Just heard about PDA and USYNT star player getting a red card yesterday. Bicycle kick straight to the face of a Sporting Blue Valley Player.

Wonder what the rules are of Red Card? Good news for FC Dallas.
 
MARsSPEED said:
Yikes. Just heard about PDA and USYNT star player getting a red card yesterday. Bicycle kick straight to the face of a Sporting Blue Valley Player.

Wonder what the rules are of Red Card? Good news for FC Dallas.
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oh.. was it a straight red or double yellow?
I watched the game the day before to compare against another '09 being looked at in Europe.
This player from PDA was on the ground and frustrated swipped her leg at someone about 15min to the match. That would have been a auto yellow. Aside from that, I'm not as impressed as everyone else seems to be.
 
For the red card question. I'm rusty on the rules but don't think they've changed.
1 game suspension
My guess is PDA would protest for an overturn of the suspension. I've seen ECNL speak up on dissent and issues where kids are suspended for several games due to violence. But if it was a straight red or double yellow she'll probably miss the next game only
 
Orangeteam said:
For the red card question. I'm rusty on the rules but don't think they've changed.
1 game suspension
My guess is PDA would protest for an overturn of the suspension. I've seen ECNL speak up on dissent and issues where kids are suspended for several games due to violence. But if it was a straight red or double yellow she'll probably miss the next game only
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Straight red. Dangerous play. Opposing player received severe concussion. Probably same player you saw if playing AM position. Always had a problem with anger and dirty play but has been better about the past two years. We had to always remind our goalie to lookout for her a couple years ago.

She is actually a great kid off the field. Kind and respectful. I think she is just very competitive on the field.
 
MARsSPEED said:
Yikes. Just heard about PDA and USYNT star player getting a red card yesterday. Bicycle kick straight to the face of a Sporting Blue Valley Player.

Wonder what the rules are of Red Card? Good news for FC Dallas.
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Did you mean its good news for AZ Arsenal? FC Dallas is in a different group. Arsenal needs to beat PDA tomorrow to make the round of 16.
 
MARsSPEED said:
Straight red. Dangerous play. Opposing player received severe concussion. Probably same player you saw if playing AM position. Always had a problem with anger and dirty play but has been better about the past two years. We had to always remind our goalie to lookout for her a couple years ago.

She is actually a great kid off the field. Kind and respectful. I think she is just very competitive on the field.
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It's the same kid. I'm familiar with her play. shes sneaks in alot of stuff on the field that seems to go un noticed by the officials, but that's the game.
 
MARsSPEED said:
Straight red. Dangerous play. Opposing player received severe concussion. Probably same player you saw if playing AM position. Always had a problem with anger and dirty play but has been better about the past two years. We had to always remind our goalie to lookout for her a couple years ago.

She is actually a great kid off the field. Kind and respectful. I think she is just very competitive on the field.
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If they consider it a violent red then it should be a 2 game suspension.
 
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