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You said yourself you would be unhappy if your gay daughter wasn't allowed to play on her high school team due to her sexuality. This is actually a law in the books in KY, not hypothetical. I'm sure you would also be unhappy if she were not allowed to adopt a child, which is not allowed in many states. The list goes on and on for basic rights denied to them.

Just like I am sure you have boycotted a product for doing something you disagree with, the state govt has every right to boycott as well. It's the only way to get these other states attention, and let them know we find their actions unconstitutional and unamerican. Hit em where it hurts- $$$.
What does the law say?
Can you show it to me?
 
How do traditional restrooms where men stand up, and women sit down, "oppress" people?
This is what we are talking about.
Not Jim Crow.
Not dogs and firehoses.
Not segregated schools.

You are forcing them to prove their gender in order to perform a basic bodily function, which is an unconstitutional invasion of privacy. Would you like the gender police to check your junk before entering a restroom? Don't you think you'd find it oppressive?
 
You said yourself you would be unhappy if your gay daughter wasn't allowed to play on her high school team due to her sexuality. This is actually a law in the books in KY, not hypothetical. I'm sure you would also be unhappy if she were not allowed to adopt a child, which is not allowed in many states..

I think you have things mixed up.
The adoption law protects the rights of religious organizations from being forced to allow an adoption from their organization.
It does not outlaw gay couples from adopting kids from other organizations.
 
You are forcing them to prove their gender in order to perform a basic bodily function, which is an unconstitutional invasion of privacy. Would you like the gender police to check your junk before entering a restroom? Don't you think you'd find it oppressive?
Nobody is doing that.
We both agreed, that if nobody knows, who cares.
The law is there to protect people from predators. If a guy is using a gender neutral bathroom law as an excuse to use the women's room, whats to stop him?
 
I think you have things mixed up.
The adoption law protects the rights of religious organizations from being forced to allow an adoption from their organization.
It does not outlaw gay couples from adopting kids from other organizations.

It allows state-funded adoption agencies to discriminate against lgbtq, which is unconstitutional.
 
Nobody is doing that.
We both agreed, that if nobody knows, who cares.
The law is there to protect people from predators. If a guy is using a gender neutral bathroom law as an excuse to use the women's room, whats to stop him?

What predators? When has a trans woman ever sexually assaulted a woman in a restroom? never. I believe in this case the issue is with cisgender men going to extremes to sexually assault a woman, which is a reflection of cisgender men, not trans women.
 
What predators? When has a trans woman ever sexually assaulted a woman in a restroom? never. I believe in this case the issue is with cisgender men going to extremes to sexually assault a woman, which is a reflection of cisgender men, not trans women.
Does the bathroom bill only qualify women to use men's rooms?
Just so we're clear, "Trans" is ok, but "Tranny" isnt, correct?
 
Does the bathroom bill only qualify women to use men's rooms?
Just so we're clear, "Trans" is ok, but "Tranny" isnt, correct?

Bathroom bill says must use bathroom that corresponds w gender on birth certificate.

And yes. Tranny is very offensive.

This is an issue close to my heart, so I tend to go overboard with it. I know discussion and education is the key, but it's easy for me to lose patience so I do apologize.
 
Bathroom bill says must use bathroom that corresponds w gender on birth certificate.

And yes. Tranny is very offensive.

This is an issue close to my heart, so I tend to go overboard with it. I know discussion and education is the key, but it's easy for me to lose patience so I do apologize.
Ok, would gender free bathrooms only allow women in men's rooms, but not men in women's rooms?
 
Ok, would gender free bathrooms only allow women in men's rooms, but not men in women's rooms?

I believe gender neutral is just gender neutral. Anyone can go. Then obviously we keep the gendered restrooms. I just find the whole thing a non issue. Who cares where the trans community pees?
 
Bathroom bill says must use bathroom that corresponds w gender on birth certificate.

And yes. Tranny is very offensive.

This is an issue close to my heart, so I tend to go overboard with it. I know discussion and education is the key, but it's easy for me to lose patience so I do apologize.
I cant keep up with all the things that offend people.
Im not offended you think of me as a bigot.
You're entitled to have that opinion.

Names dont bother me.
 
I cant keep up with all the things that offend people.
Im not offended you think of me as a bigot.
You're entitled to have that opinion.

Names dont bother me.

You're not a member of an oppressed group, so names wouldn't bother you. It's a matter of learning and just asking. Everyone is in the same boat
 
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