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I think it's best to leave the soccer forum to soccer, and I didn't mean to help hijack this thread. But I do believe our daughters generation is much more enlightened, and it's inspiring to see them fight for true equality. We have strong, empowered young ladies off and on the field.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
Gay marriage is legal in some states, and not legal in others, although I think the union is recognized in all 50. The "union" has equal protections under federal law.
I have a sister who is gay, and lives in the south, with her "partner", and is doing great.
Is there a public school in Kentucky that would not allow a female soccer player to play on a female soccer team because she's lesbian? If that is the case, I dont agree with it.
The restroom issue concerns not only the rights of the "trans", but the rights of others who wish to use the restroom of their designated gender.
Who's rights are more important?

This is a state and local issue that is best determined locally.
I dont want men in the bathroom with my daughters, but you may live in a town where everyone loves it
As a plumber, I understand plumbing, and how public restrooms are designed, not to embarrass, or empower people, but to accommodate a bodily function based on the plumbing "particulars" of the gender designated on the door.
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And I hate to tell you, but I'm sure your daughter has shared a public restroom with several trans women in her life. I truly think the focus of your concern should be the high percentage of women sexually assaulted in college by cisgender males. They are the the true threats to our daughters and that's where mine concern lies.

Sorry, this is it! Back to college soccer!
 
chargerfan said:
And I hate to tell you, but I'm sure your daughter has shared a public restroom with several trans women in her life. I truly think the focus of your concern should be the high percentage of women sexually assaulted in college by cisgender males. They are the the true threats to our daughters and that's where mine concern lies.

Sorry, this is it! Back to college soccer!
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If nobody knows, who cares? (as far as trannys using the rest room)
Simple.
I dont believe cis-gendered men should be allowed in the women's room either.


You understand there are two legitimate sides to this.
I certainly do.

This is why we should keep that political discussion on capitol hill, and not in NCAA sports.
Just like this thread.
 
chargerfan said:
I think it's best to leave the soccer forum to soccer, and I didn't mean to help hijack this thread. But I do believe our daughters generation is much more enlightened, and it's inspiring to see them fight for true equality. We have strong, empowered young ladies off and on the field.
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We all have our opinions on social norms and what should or should not be considered acceptable public policy.
I dont agree with you on some things, but do agree on others.

This does not make either of us hateful, bigoted, or ignorant.
It just means we aren't the same person.
Diversity in a nutshell.
 
push_up said:
You California people are f-ing retarded when it comes to social issues. 80% of the country laughs there asses off at your stupidity.
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California is to the United States as the United States is to the world. Think about who hates California the most and who hates the United States the most. It's no coincidence that both are much more religiously conservative than California and the United States.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
We all have our opinions on social norms and what should or should not be considered acceptable public policy.
I dont agree with you on some things, but do agree on others.

This does not make either of us hateful, bigoted, or ignorant.
It just means we aren't the same person.
Diversity in a nutshell.
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Of course it doesn't make me hateful, bigoted, or ignorant, as I have not expressed an opinion contrary to the belief that lgbtq community should be treated with dignity and equality in all matters. That would be you.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
If nobody knows, who cares? (as far as trannys using the rest room)
Simple.
I dont believe cis-gendered men should be allowed in the women's room either.


You understand there are two legitimate sides to this.
I certainly do.

This is why we should keep that political discussion on capitol hill, and not in NCAA sports.
Just like this thread.
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It is 2017. How about we not use the word, "tranny"?
 
Bernie Sanders said:
Let the kids play their games, and take the political game to capitol hill.
We dont need any political group using sports as a weapon against their poilitical adversaries.

btw, I didnt bring this up.
I just disagree with the tactic.
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First off, any public institution from California that makes the college cup, or other meaningfull championship for that matter, will get a waiver.

Bernie you are a very reasonable person and I respect that you stick to the arguments, but I disagree with your take.

Too many people say they are for the 1st amendment until they disagree with the message. Everybody says they are ok with people's right to protest UNTIL the protest disrupts their lives in some way (lots of people, left and right, hated the protests at LAX). If protests never bothered anybody, they would not be protests.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
Are there any "creatively discriminating" laws in California?
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The anti smoking laws are WAY over the top for my taste and I am not a smoker. In fact I left an employer because the boss smoked inside the office. But there are way too many restrictions regarding where a smoker can light up just because someone may catch a whiff of the exhale.
 
Justafan said:
The anti smoking laws are WAY over the top for my taste and I am not a smoker. In fact I left an employer because the boss smoked inside the office. But there are way too many restrictions regarding where a smoker can light up just because someone may catch a whiff of the exhale.
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But at least the government has an interest here, which is curbing illnesses and diseases caused by second hand smoke. These anti LGBT laws are nothing but bigotry codified.
 
chargerfan said:
Of course it doesn't make me hateful, bigoted, or ignorant, as I have not expressed an opinion contrary to the belief that lgbtq community should be treated with dignity and equality in all matters. That would be you.
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I see what you did there.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt, though we disagree.
There are many "communities" within our country, and just because you pick one, doesnt make those you disagree with, bigots.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
I see what you did there.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt, though we disagree.
There are many "communities" within our country, and just because you pick one, doesnt make those you disagree with, bigots.
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No, I saw what you did by making it a matter of political differences, rather than bigotry. Yes, if you are in favor of unequal treatment of an oppressed minority community, you are a bigot, full stop. You may be a nice enough guy, but you appear to hold some bigoted opinions.
 
chargerfan said:
No, I saw what you did by making it a matter of political differences, rather than bigotry. Yes, if you are in favor of unequal treatment of an oppressed minority community, you are a bigot, full stop. You may be a nice enough guy, but you appear to hold some bigoted opinions.
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Unless you are trying to say that my disapproval of those who would deny them equality is bigotry? It's bigoted of me to disapprove of bigots? Ok!
 
Justafan said:
First off, any public institution from California that makes the college cup, or other meaningfull championship for that matter, will get a waiver.

Bernie you are a very reasonable person and I respect that you stick to the arguments, but I disagree with your take.

Too many people say they are for the 1st amendment until they disagree with the message. Everybody says they are ok with people's right to protest UNTIL the protest disrupts their lives in some way (lots of people, left and right, hated the protests at LAX). If protests never bothered anybody, they would not be protests.
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Why would they request a waiver?
 
chargerfan said:
But at least the government has an interest here, which is curbing illnesses and diseases caused by second hand smoke. These anti LGBT laws are nothing but bigotry codified.
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The government's job in our republic, is to represent the constituency that elects it.
If that constituency elects people to ban smoking, or determine which public restrooms can be used by men or women, then they stay elected.
Otherwise, they get voted out.
States using boycotts on issues as trivial as public restrooms when they have serious budgetary, infrastructure, and economic issues to contend with at home, are playing a political puppet show for the easily led.
 
chargerfan said:
No, I saw what you did by making it a matter of political differences, rather than bigotry. Yes, if you are in favor of unequal treatment of an oppressed minority community, you are a bigot, full stop. You may be a nice enough guy, but you appear to hold some bigoted opinions.
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The role could just as easily be reversed.
I could see you as the intolerant.
I dont play the identity politics game.
You can call me a bigot if you wish, but it says far more about your intolerance than it does about any perceived bigotry on my end.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
The government's job in our republic, is to represent the constituency that elects it.
If that constituency elects people to ban smoking, or determine which public restrooms can be used by men or women, then they stay elected.
Otherwise, they get voted out.
States using boycotts on issues as trivial as public restrooms when they have serious budgetary, infrastructure, and economic issues to contend with at home, are playing a political puppet show for the easily led.
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Someone needs to study the Constitution!
 
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