2017-2018 D1 Women's Soccer Talk!

chargerfan said:
No, I saw what you did by making it a matter of political differences, rather than bigotry. Yes, if you are in favor of unequal treatment of an oppressed minority community, you are a bigot, full stop. You may be a nice enough guy, but you appear to hold some bigoted opinions.
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Unless you are trying to say that my disapproval of those who would deny them equality is bigotry? It's bigoted of me to disapprove of bigots? Ok!
 
Justafan said:
First off, any public institution from California that makes the college cup, or other meaningfull championship for that matter, will get a waiver.

Bernie you are a very reasonable person and I respect that you stick to the arguments, but I disagree with your take.

Too many people say they are for the 1st amendment until they disagree with the message. Everybody says they are ok with people's right to protest UNTIL the protest disrupts their lives in some way (lots of people, left and right, hated the protests at LAX). If protests never bothered anybody, they would not be protests.
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Why would they request a waiver?
 
chargerfan said:
But at least the government has an interest here, which is curbing illnesses and diseases caused by second hand smoke. These anti LGBT laws are nothing but bigotry codified.
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The government's job in our republic, is to represent the constituency that elects it.
If that constituency elects people to ban smoking, or determine which public restrooms can be used by men or women, then they stay elected.
Otherwise, they get voted out.
States using boycotts on issues as trivial as public restrooms when they have serious budgetary, infrastructure, and economic issues to contend with at home, are playing a political puppet show for the easily led.
 
chargerfan said:
No, I saw what you did by making it a matter of political differences, rather than bigotry. Yes, if you are in favor of unequal treatment of an oppressed minority community, you are a bigot, full stop. You may be a nice enough guy, but you appear to hold some bigoted opinions.
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The role could just as easily be reversed.
I could see you as the intolerant.
I dont play the identity politics game.
You can call me a bigot if you wish, but it says far more about your intolerance than it does about any perceived bigotry on my end.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
The government's job in our republic, is to represent the constituency that elects it.
If that constituency elects people to ban smoking, or determine which public restrooms can be used by men or women, then they stay elected.
Otherwise, they get voted out.
States using boycotts on issues as trivial as public restrooms when they have serious budgetary, infrastructure, and economic issues to contend with at home, are playing a political puppet show for the easily led.
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Someone needs to study the Constitution!
 
chargerfan said:
Someone needs to study the Constitution!
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I asked you earlier about rights, and you didnt respond.
I moved on, and this was a snippet on state politics. I didnt get into constitutional ramifications, but if you believe traditional public restrooms are unconstitutional, please explain.
Or you can just be content with labeling me as a bigot and we can end this now.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
I asked you earlier about rights, and you didnt respond.
I moved on, and this was a snippet on state politics. I didnt get into constitutional ramifications, but if you believe traditional public restrooms are unconstitutional, please explain.
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Where you tell me where you got your law degree, we can have an educated conversation on the subject. Otherwise, I have the feeling it will be a waste of my time.
 
chargerfan said:
In my world, a person who uses the term "tranny" doesn't even get a seat at the table. You can either find some enlightenment, or remain by yourself in the dark ages. Have a good day.

Now back to soccer!
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I didnt mean it in a disparaging way.
I guess its better to call someone a bigot.

I agree.
Soccer
 
Bernie Sanders said:
The government's job in our republic, is to represent the constituency that elects it.
If that constituency elects people to ban smoking, or determine which public restrooms can be used by men or women, then they stay elected.
Otherwise, they get voted out.
States using boycotts on issues as trivial as public restrooms when they have serious budgetary, infrastructure, and economic issues to contend with at home, are playing a political puppet show for the easily led.
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Come on Bernie. There is a law still on the books in Georgia that bans oral sex. Booze was once banned. If we are going to put our faith in the lowest common denominator then we are in for some serious problems. If we were to go with what is popular my player wouldn't even exist. Have a heart. I know a wonderful woman that had to have the national guard escort her to class in elementary school due to the unpopularity of forced integration. Unfortunately for all of us "separate but equal" was popular. Popular and extremely flawed.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
The role could just as easily be reversed.
I could see you as the intolerant.
I dont play the identity politics game.
You can call me a bigot if you wish, but it says far more about your intolerance than it does about any perceived bigotry on my end.
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"Identity politics" seems to be the theme of the week. What do you mean by that?
 
MakeAPlay said:
Come on Bernie. There is a law still on the books in Georgia that bans oral sex. Booze was once banned. If we are going to put our faith in the lowest common denominator then we are in for some serious problems. If we were to go with what is popular my player wouldn't even exist. Have a heart. I know a wonderful woman that had to have the national guard escort her to class in elementary school due to the unpopularity of forced integration. Unfortunately for all of us "separate but equal" was popular. Popular and extremely flawed.
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I have a big heart.
I just disagree with the bathroom boycott.

You can call me a bigot.
I dont really care.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
I asked you earlier about rights, and you didnt respond.
I moved on, and this was a snippet on state politics. I didnt get into constitutional ramifications, but if you believe traditional public restrooms are unconstitutional, please explain.
Or you can just be content with labeling me as a bigot and we can end this now.
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MakeAPlay said:
Come on Bernie. There is a law still on the books in Georgia that bans oral sex. Booze was once banned. If we are going to put our faith in the lowest common denominator then we are in for some serious problems. If we were to go with what is popular my player wouldn't even exist. Have a heart. I know a wonderful woman that had to have the national guard escort her to class in elementary school due to the unpopularity of forced integration. Unfortunately for all of us "separate but equal" was popular. Popular and extremely flawed.
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This is why the constitution is the law of the land, and not the will of the majority. Equal Protection for minority groups, even if the majority wants to oppress them. Brown and Obergefell two historic examples of this.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
I have a big heart.
I just disagree with the bathroom boycott.

You can call me a bigot.
I dont really care.
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You said yourself you would be unhappy if your gay daughter wasn't allowed to play on her high school team due to her sexuality. This is actually a law in the books in KY, not hypothetical. I'm sure you would also be unhappy if she were not allowed to adopt a child, which is not allowed in many states. The list goes on and on for basic rights denied to them.

Just like I am sure you have boycotted a product for doing something you disagree with, the state govt has every right to boycott as well. It's the only way to get these other states attention, and let them know we find their actions unconstitutional and unamerican. Hit em where it hurts- $$$.
 
chargerfan said:
This is why the constitution is the law of the land, and not the will of the majority. Equal Protection for minority groups, even if the majority wants to oppress them. Brown and Obergefell two historic examples of this.
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How do traditional restrooms where men stand up, and women sit down, "oppress" people?
This is what we are talking about.
Not Jim Crow.
Not dogs and firehoses.
Not segregated schools.
 
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