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xav10 said:
I'm not gonna knock RMH, no way. Good stuff in a lot of ways. Nice try with the "mcd/rmh" as one linked phrase, though! The restaurant is still a burger place for fat fucks which has so much economic power that local joints like the "family restaurant" referenced in Lion's post can't stay in business.
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You blame Mickey D's, a successful business, & the family restaurant owner blames the government.
From the article:
Along with rising sales taxes, and meat prices, a minimum wage hike to $10 an hour two months ago made it expensive to stay open. So he's cut back from five to two days a week for lunch. His hamburgers are smaller, his entrees pricier and his customers scarcer.
Hawatmeh believes it's not the government, but a combination of worker determination and customer demand that should set the correct wage.
"That's how I built myself," he said. "That's how I'm teaching my children to build themselves. Don't ask what do I get, ask what can I do."
 
Lion Eyes said:
You blame Mickey D's, a successful business, & the family restaurant owner blames the government.
From the article:
Along with rising sales taxes, and meat prices, a minimum wage hike to $10 an hour two months ago made it expensive to stay open. So he's cut back from five to two days a week for lunch. His hamburgers are smaller, his entrees pricier and his customers scarcer.
Hawatmeh believes it's not the government, but a combination of worker determination and customer demand that should set the correct wage.
"That's how I built myself," he said. "That's how I'm teaching my children to build themselves. Don't ask what do I get, ask what can I do."
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I'm not trying to "blame," I'm trying to look at the conditions here that lead to the failure of a local business. You want to blame wages, I don't. That argument leads us to the Chinese model of $1/hour label
 
xav10 said:
I'm not trying to "blame," I'm trying to look at the conditions here that lead to the failure of a local business. You want to blame wages, I don't. That argument leads us to the Chinese model of $1/hour label
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You should read the article .
The business didn't fail.
They cut back on lunches.
The Governor and the business owner blamed wages.
I simply posted the article.
Obviously 1$ an hour is absurd.
 
Wez said:
Why? If you believe the magic free market cures all, why have a min. wage at all? Why not have restaurant employees be 1099 and work completely off tips?
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Where exactly did I say the free market cures all?
Why do you jump to such silly conclusions?
I negotiate and determine my wage and compensation package.
It's none of your business & I certainly don't need, nor want the government negotiating on my behalf.


"Hawatmeh believes it's not the government, but a combination of worker determination and customer demand that should set the correct wage."
 
Lion Eyes said:
Where exactly did I say the free market cures all?
Why do you jump to such silly conclusions?
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What silly conclusion? Why is $1/hour absurd? Why complain about a min. wage increase at all if you feel some level if min. wage is necessary?
 
Wez said:
What silly conclusion? Why is $1/hour absurd? Why complain about a min. wage increase at all if you feel some level if min. wage is necessary?
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I never said the free market cures all....as far as 1$ an hour goes...
Apparently for you it's not absurd. But for the vast majority of folks in this country, it is.
I didn't complain, but I have posted two article in the last week that indicate a higher minimum wage is not the cure all/fix all it was sold as.
Hey, if someone is willing to work for 1$ an hr or 3$ or 10$....what exactly is the problem?
 
Lion Eyes said:
Apparently for you it's not absurd. But for the vast majority of folks in this country, it is.
I didn't complain, but I have posted two article in the last week that indicate a higher minimum wage is not the cure all/fix all it was sold as.
Hey, if someone is willing to work for 1$ an hr or 3$ or 10$....what exactly is the problem?
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A higher min. wage is not a cure all, but it has more benefits to the economy than disadvantages, at least that's what people who study this stuff say.

I love how the GOP is supposedly about helping the common man, but has been conned into thinking everything that doesn't help big business is bad.
 
Lion Eyes said:
I never said the free market cures all....as far as 1$ an hour goes...
Apparently for you it's not absurd. But for the vast majority of folks in this country, it is.
I didn't complain, but I have posted two article in the last week that indicate a higher minimum wage is not the cure all/fix all it was sold as.
Hey, if someone is willing to work for 1$ an hr or 3$ or 10$....what exactly is the problem?
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There you have it, then! In China they're "willing" to work for $1/hr, so why not here?
 
Bruddah IZ said:
Thatʻs quite the rant. Makes me wanna get a Big Mac. I love the Ronald Mc Donald houses (RMH) My anti MCD brother in law had a change of ♡ when his daughter had a life threatening lung condition in New Zealand 2 years ago. The RMH accomodations meant that he and his wife had a place to stay at while they went through a gut wrenching ordeal with their daughter. They live about a 100 miles from the hospital. She is alive and well today but RMH made it much easier and all for free. Keeping ALL cost low makes MCD/RMH more than just a burger place for fat fucks. Nice progressive thinking.
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I like Big Macs, but than again, I am a fat fuck. I also feel a little better by dropping my change into the RHM collection outside the window.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
Thatʻs quite the rant. Makes me wanna get a Big Mac. I love the Ronald Mc Donald houses (RMH) My anti MCD brother in law had a change of ♡ when his daughter had a life threatening lung condition in New Zealand 2 years ago. The RMH accomodations meant that he and his wife had a place to stay at while they went through a gut wrenching ordeal with their daughter. They live about a 100 miles from the hospital. She is alive and well today but RMH made it much easier and all for free. Keeping ALL cost low makes MCD/RMH more than just a burger place for fat fucks. Nice progressive thinking.
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Yes, nice rant. The great work Irma Gusfield started is a completely different entity than McDonalds Inc. Ray Kroc was simply one of the first donors.
 
Wez said:
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Straight up! Although lil 'joe being an urbanite he doesn't have a beard, lies about owning guns, does what he is told and only fantasizes in here about being the kind of man he thinks is brave enough to be himself and make his own decisions.
 
xav10 said:
I'm not gonna knock RMH, no way. Good stuff in a lot of ways. Nice try with the "mcd/rmh" as one linked phrase, though! The restaurant is still a burger place for fat fucks which has so much economic power that local joints like the "family restaurant" referenced in Lion's post can't stay in business.
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Nice try to seperate the two (RMH/MCD). Yes other evil corporations get to contribute to RMH as well. Do you know what you mean by MCDʻs "economic power? Are you sure that MCD is solely responsible for the destruction of family restaurants?
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Straight up! Although lil 'joe being an urbanite he doesn't have a beard, lies about owning guns, does what he is told and only fantasizes in here about being the kind of man he thinks is brave enough to be himself and make his own decisions.
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I am sorry, can you repeat that, union boy.
I think your foreman needs you to get her lunch for her.
 
xav10 said:
I'm not trying to "blame," I'm trying to look at the conditions here that lead to the failure of a local business. You want to blame wages, I don't. That argument leads us to the Chinese model of $1/hour label
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What was the chinese model before it was $1 an hour?
 
Lion Eyes said:
You should read the article .
The business didn't fail.
They cut back on lunches.
The Governor and the business owner blamed wages.
I simply posted the article.
Obviously 1$ an hour is absurd.
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No itʻs not if they were making $0 prior to. The chinese factories and workers love the push for higher MW in America. It secures their jobs.

 
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