Ponderable

xav10 said:
Everybody demands higher wages. I stay out in front of it because I don't want to lose my people to the competition. Costs too much time and money to train newbies. Maybe I'd make more at the end of the day if I paid less, but as I said, I don't have shareholders to worry about and if I make a little less, that's ok. I'm betting that the stability and productivity make me more, though.
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I gave you a star because you acknowledged competition for labor in the market. Simple supply and demand.
 
xav10 said:
We cann't compete with China or Vietnam paying labor $1 a day and that's where the jobs are going. And I get offers to sell my business, which would pay me the equivalent of about 4 years of what I make, plus a fat salary, but of course conditioned on firing most of my people so they don't duplicate existing infrastructure. You're living a fantasy. That makes you a sucker like Joe.
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Someone is offering to pay you millions for a sucessful business and get rid of your existing employee base?
You are a dope.
 
xav10 said:
Keep saying it until you believe it, Joe. But I know that you know I'm telling the truth and you're confused by it. I have other Republican friends who I confuse, as well...but they're rich so they know what side their bread is buttered on. I'm trying to get you to wake up. Or "get woke," as the new saying goes.
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Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Money does eventually corrupt, but if you want the best you have to them . . . what percentage of an average employees wages does a CEO make these days and are they totally worth it?
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Depends on what you consider "worth it". What percentage of an average union employees wages does Union leadership make these days and are they totally worth it?
 
xav10 said:
I doubt these nimrods even ponder a question like that...reality hurts too much. They'd rather blame immigrants.
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Not much to ponder, even in simulation. People who do ponder the question often forget that the same question can and should be asked regarding Union Leadership pay. Reality does hurt, but what products or services does Union Leadership provide? I'd love to see a balance sheet. Your turn Rod.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
We have had a rash of employee theft lately by companies trying to get ahead of the pack . . . a few dollars here a few dollars there makes a big difference to the worker and huge difference to the contractor as now they have acquired some real ass kickers for just a bit more an hour.
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Employee theft??? Do those employees know they were stolen? lol A few dollars doesn't make a big diff as you suggest. What else was in the compensation package? Consistency and stability maybe? Work closer to home? You guys don't like telling the whole story do you? Overall, I am thrilled to hear your Capitalist mind engaging.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
You'll need to move to DC, wear a suit and tie to blend in and be willing to spend long hours trying to figure out how to get usually intelligent people to go against their own best interests. You will need some background in psychology.
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I wonder why Democrats do that.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Yet you are swayed, heavily in some cases (see: nono, lil 'joe), by the influence of think tanks, Aren't you at all interested where and why they promote what they do? . . . and no, they aren't hiring or advertising, they want you to feel they have no influence on what you think.
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Who told you that?
 
xav10 said:
Everybody demands higher wages. I stay out in front of it because I don't want to lose my people to the competition. Costs too much time and money to train newbies. Maybe I'd make more at the end of the day if I paid less, but as I said, I don't have shareholders to worry about and if I make a little less, that's ok. I'm betting that the stability and productivity make me more, though.
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INTERVIEWER: I wanted you also to counter another argument that I hear constantly: “I earned it!”

WOLFF: The best way to describe this is … to go back to Karl Marx and his analysis of xaviism. So that we all understand what “earning” is about. Let’s imagine you are a person looking for a job and I’m the employer that you are looking to get hired by. … Let’s say we dicker back and forth and we agree on $20 an hour….

At this point Marx enters with a smile on his face and says, I’m going to show you (the reader of his books) that when that deal is done, the $20 an hour, something is going on that you actually know, but you don’t want to face, but I’m going to show it to you. When I hire you for twenty bucks an hour, I know that for every hour that you give me your work, your brains, your muscles to work, I know that I’m going to have more stuff to sell at the end of the day because you were added to my workforce. You’re going to help me produce more goods or more services or better quality goods and services

The output has got to be more than twenty bucks. The only way I’m going to hire you for $20 an hour is if you produce more in the hour than I give you. So, when you feel, in a vague way, at the end of the day that you’re being ripped off, you’re absolutely right, or, in Marx’s language, “exploited.”

So, what does the xavi say? “I earned it!” No, you didn’t, you just ripped people off. (m.f.k.a. "you didn't build that")
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Do you always think stating the obvious is somehow a sign of intellect? . . , and Bernie gave you a winner as if he thinks it's smart as well, maybe he is the dumbass he says he is? You all or nothing types are really funny.
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Apparently it's not as obvious. Despite the alleged intellect. Capitalism is not all or nothing. Don't get that mixed up with the Collectivist rule that is all or nothing. Have you forgotten the millions murdered? Does this reminder make you nauseous?
 
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