PurpleCrush
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Some clubs have confirmed with coaches it’s being delayed until Fall 2026
Get ready folks
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Socal is delayed to 2026, but I believe ECNL clubs like Surf and Rebel will do SY in 2025 with their local team play up.
PurpleCrush
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Because of SOCAL logic.
Doesn’t make sense at all, but my guess is you might see many teams with players playing up a year.
There's a way to make everyone happy and for clubs to make even more money.
Just run 2 concurrent leagues.
League A will be Jan 1st to July 1st
League B will be July 1st to Dec 31st
If players want to play with kids in their grade in school either they'll be forced to (July 1st to Dec 31st) or they'll have the option to play up with their grade (Jan 1st to July 1st)
This solves RAE, lets kids play with their grade in school, and creates more teams for kids to play on. Which means more $$$ for clubs.
Why have an A and B team when you can have two A teams.
Just run 2 concurrent leagues.
League A will be Jan 1st to July 1st
League B will be July 1st to Dec 31st
If players want to play with kids in their grade in school either they'll be forced to (July 1st to Dec 31st) or they'll have the option to play up with their grade (Jan 1st to July 1st)
This solves RAE, lets kids play with their grade in school, and creates more teams for kids to play on. Which means more $$$ for clubs.
Why have an A and B team when you can have two A teams.
Do you see the difference between what we have now and this proposal?
Right now Jan 1st birthdays have an advantage. In the proposal I defined above Jan 1st birthdays have the choice to have an advantage playing down or can choose to play up with kids in their grade in school.
I like how it naturally calls out the BS of players playing "down" for wins. It's also gently encourages players to play up with their age group for things like showcases.
This wouldn’t work for tournaments
Is anyone hearing anything from their clubs on the plan to handle SoCal’s incompetence? I see rumors of Surf and Rebels playing up but has anyone heard anything?
It would because this is just a way to hide age groups.
You'd end up with teams grouped July 1st to July 1st. One per year. Which is SY.
What's slightly different is letting the Jan 1st to July 1st players play down if they want. This addresses RAE.
Because this is based on specific Calendar Dates not arbitrary school cutoff dates it would make things simple for clubs to implement which is what BY people like. But in the end you still get SY groupings which makes things easy for recruiters.
Soccermomma24
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Does anyone have any leaked info coming from DOCs or directors before the US Soccer meeting tomorrow?
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That is exactly what I have been trying to point out. The same people who claim trapped players are not disadvataged by the age difference in BY system, argue that the same trapped players will have and age advantage if switched to SY. It can't be both ways. I honostly don't think the age difference of 3-6 months makes any real difference.
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Before the switch we refered to teams by U15, U12, etc.. After the switch teams started being identified by Birthyear. The U.. system was confusing because the team identifier changed every season. Hopefully we don't go back to that. I think identifing team by Grad Year would be the best scenario if the cut-off date changes.
It doesn't. It's about biology and not the calendar. The only way to correct for RAE would be to compete based on bone age, which is obviously not feasible.
Starting at U13 my son played against kids a foot taller and 80 pounds heavier. He survived just fine. Was he at a disadvantage, sure, but he compensated with other skills.
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Can you provide an example of a State that has a date earlier than Aug 1 for there school enrollment?
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But they are not Trapped, just offset, there is no rule preventing them from playing up.
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Back to CSL is is!
There's a few school districts that start in July but they're all late July and some are July 31st.
Depending on where in the U.S. you live, “back to school” means anytime from late July to after Labor Day
Most K-12 students at U.S. public schools have a school year of about 180 days, but when that year starts and ends varies substantially by region.
www.pewresearch.org
Aug 1st would represent 99.9% of all students.
If you wanted to include all students make the cutoff July 1st.
Honestly I don't know why the cutoff date isn't July 1st. Some kids (July 1st till whenever their school district starts) might gets the option of playing with their school grade (up) or down with the grade below them but most would choose to play with their grade in school by the time they're in High School.
Just change BY to July 1st instead of Jan 1st and it eliminates trapped players and is simple to implement.
Just change BY to July 1st instead of Jan 1st and it eliminates trapped players and is simple to implement.
It has nothing to do with when your school district starts school. The cut off date for California first.
It has nothing to do with when your school district starts their school year. The cut off mandate date for California public schools affecting the trapped kids is September 1.