Sporting California! What are they doing?

Jamisfoes said:
I don’t think they are proposing moving the ecrl hub to Temecula. They are proposing having ecrl teams all over the place. People no longer have to drive all the way to Ontario for ecrl. I guess it could be a good thing or a bad thing depending on where you live. This will give the satellite locations a boost.
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Yes but I believe ECNL,---and I believe for all the letter leagues as a matter of fact--require all NL/RL games on a given day to take place at the same facility. So in other words I don't think you can have 2010 RL playing in Temecula in 2009 RL playing at Silver Lakes
 
Not having ecrl at the same location as ecnl will likely help keeping ecrl teams together longer. I have seen B teams losing their best players to the A team and become unstable.
I don’t think this internal competition should be held annually…maybe having it every two years will allow time for development.
 
Jamisfoes said:
I have seen B teams losing their best players to the A team and become unstable.
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Yes, agreed, but if you had the players in that exact position explain their motivation to you - wouldn't almost all of them say they are playing hard in order to win a spot on the A team if/when it becomes available? Putting additional or geographic barriers to try and keep talented B team players from being able to make that jump isn't a recipe for success either - those same players would be looking for additional opportunities elsewhere if they (and others observing them) believe they could succeed at the NL level.
 
Jamisfoes said:
Not having ecrl at the same location as ecnl will likely help keeping ecrl teams together longer. I have seen B teams losing their best players to the A team and become unstable.
I don’t think this internal competition should be held annually…maybe having it every two years will allow time for development.
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Oh I meant more all the RL (of NL for that matter) games in a given day have to be played at the same facility. From what I understand usually when RL is home their NL team is away- not always but usually.

Also keep in mind that that there are many clubs who have coaches who coach multiple teams. So lets say a Slammers coach coaches 2008 and 2009 RL and they are playing SC--again as per example its would be shocking that the league would allow 2008 to be at one affiliate location and the other to be 40 miles away at another
 
Jamisfoes said:
I don’t think they are proposing moving the ecrl hub to Temecula. They are proposing having ecrl teams all over the place. People no longer have to drive all the way to Ontario for ecrl. I guess it could be a good thing or a bad thing depending on where you live. This will give the satellite locations a boost.
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Not if you don’t know where the rl team is going to be for any particular year at any particular satellite. Esp if you find out the home hub where all home games take place is Temecula and you have to commute 50% of the time there and with no home games of your own. Only works if they move the rl hub permanently

$10 says that’s what’s going to happen if they move it. Like Laufa they’ll just grandfather in a few teams say they are basically moving the hub for evolving reasons. grandfathered teams, if any will get angry at the commute, eventually they fall apart and eventually it will all be at 1 hub. That hub will be happy. Everyone else will be pissed. And the ecnl team will be hob nobbed at recruitment after a while. It’s totally a repeat of laufa playbook except with this silly justification of playing for the spot to give decisions already made a veneer of meritocratic decision making.
 
Jamisfoes said:
I don’t think they are proposing moving the ecrl hub to Temecula. They are proposing having ecrl teams all over the place. People no longer have to drive all the way to Ontario for ecrl. I guess it could be a good thing or a bad thing depending on where you live. This will give the satellite locations a boost.
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If they are planning on having ECRL teams everywhere, then why would they be having a battle for the top ECRL spot. Doesn’t make any sense. Isn’t it up to ECRL how many teams a club gets? Sporting can’t just say” we now have ECRL for every sporting branch”
 
RandomSoccerFan said:
Yes, agreed, but if you had the players in that exact position explain their motivation to you - wouldn't almost all of them say they are playing hard in order to win a spot on the A team if/when it becomes available? Putting additional or geographic barriers to try and keep talented B team players from being able to make that jump isn't a recipe for success either - those same players would be looking for additional opportunities elsewhere if they (and others observing them) believe they could succeed at the NL level.
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It’s the parents who will push the move to the A team. They often get disappointed when they find out that an A team coach is only looking to improve his starting lineup. Once the ego gets bruised, they end up leaving. If the A and B teams aren’t in the same location, it’s harder to hurt their feelings.
 
RedDevil24 said:
Oh I meant more all the RL (of NL for that matter) games in a given day have to be played at the same facility. From what I understand usually when RL is home their NL team is away- not always but usually.

Also keep in mind that that there are many clubs who have coaches who coach multiple teams. So lets say a Slammers coach coaches 2008 and 2009 RL and they are playing SC--again as per example its would be shocking that the league would allow 2008 to be at one affiliate location and the other to be 40 miles away at another
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They can all play at Silverlake then.
 
Larzby said:
I'd love to come watch these games just for the drama of it all and the pearl-clutching of the dads! Anyway, I have a feeling the club will withdraw this deal if there's an unexpected upset. Considering there's just about zero loyalty or honoring one's word in this biz.
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Can somebody please tell Sporting that there is a LOT of interest from us to watch this game? Please post time/location...we'll even pay $10 for entrance fee.
 
Keepitrealdad said:
Why wouldn’t parents want their players to move to the ECNL team if they deserve it? I think that’s the point of ECRL…
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That’s what they sell you. Didn’t someone already mentioned that the B team exists to help pay for the A team? If that’s true, does it matter if the B team is in Temecula or Ontario.
 
Jamisfoes said:
That’s what they sell you. Didn’t someone already mentioned that the B team exists to help pay for the A team? If that’s true, does it matter if the B team is in Temecula or Ontario.
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Depends how they are organized but most of the time hubs are affiliates with separate accounting.

Don’t know how the ecnl side works but in mls next there’s all play down issue for the benchers. Futures and reserve players need a place to get actual playtime experience. Some mls next teams for example carry upwards towards 30 players, with anything over 18 unable to dress.
 
Grace T. said:
Depends how they are organized but most of the time hubs are affiliates with separate accounting.

Don’t know how the ecnl side works but in mls next there’s all play down issue for the benchers. Futures and reserve players need a place to get actual playtime experience. Some mls next teams for example carry upwards towards 30 players, with anything over 18 unable to dress.
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I know parents from Ontario aren’t happy about this and understandably so. But I do admire Sporting for trying this and share the goods with their satellite locations. My kid played for a small club and I understand how difficult it is to attract players when you don’t have access to the letter leagues. Good teams are forced to break up at 11-12 when players leave to join clubs with access. He plays for a big club now but I will always root for the small guys trying to survive.
 
Grace T. said:
Depends how they are organized but most of the time hubs are affiliates with separate accounting.

Don’t know how the ecnl side works but in mls next there’s all play down issue for the benchers. Futures and reserve players need a place to get actual playtime experience. Some mls next teams for example carry upwards towards 30 players, with anything over 18 unable to dress.
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Exactly......... so what's not to say that the affiliates are not using this whole "opportunity" as a money grab for themselves?
 
RedDevil24 said:
Exactly......... so what's not to say that the affiliates are not using this whole "opportunity" as a money grab for themselves?
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They absolutely are. Jenny charged 3k per head and scholarshiped a few key players to try and break up MSA, City Temecula, and Empire Surf using ECRL as her ploy. She tried to get ECRL when she was running Legends Temecula but the North wasn't having it. Then she moved to MSA to 'Unite the Valley' and got fired for who knows what. and now she is recruiting for sporting saying they have ECRL. Not to mention she is coaching 5 teams with sub-in coaches. It's a cluster, to say the least. Good luck to the parents...and the kids who were moved cause of their parents.
 
Gonna guess SC started planting the seed with their affiliates a long time ago, as the RL 2 rumors have been rumbling for a while. They probably used it to entice JL to the South affiliate.

They Probably used the same tactic to lure in Mission Viejo FC which is now their OC affiliate. Just looking at the OC social media they are def pitching the RL/NL pathway (which to some extent can be true). From what I understand this new affiliate ran with this and it was definitely pitching that they were going to have RL status (not even RL2) Per your post @Code sounds like the same as JL —Looking at some OC affiliate IG posts they definitely say RL for at least one of their teams (2010) and now that same team seems be headed towards E-64. So either the parent club bait and switched the affiliate, or affiliate being switched the parents, or both happened.

So one can only guess that something probably similar happened in Temecula, only in JL decided to call them out on it. And having somewhat of a reputation and decently performing teams, that was enough leverage.
 
ColdPizza said:
They absolutely are. Jenny charged 3k per head and scholarshiped a few key players to try and break up MSA, City Temecula, and Empire Surf using ECRL as her ploy. She tried to get ECRL when she was running Legends Temecula but the North wasn't having it. Then she moved to MSA to 'Unite the Valley' and got fired for who knows what. and now she is recruiting for sporting saying they have ECRL. Not to mention she is coaching 5 teams with sub-in coaches. It's a cluster, to say the least. Good luck to the parents...and the kids who were moved cause of their parents.
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If the JL teams end up losing to the current RL Ontario teams it sounds like the Temecula Branch is going to implode. If the Ontario RL Teams lose, it sounds like they are going to implode. Just wait for the Sporting RL2 drama to ignite when those teams are designated. Sounds like Sporting sold two or three spots to five or six teams 🤑🤑🤑.

Socal Elite: Watch This!
Sporting USA: Hold my Beer!!!!
 
Code said:
I know people at two separate clubs that moved under the Sporting USA banner for the upcoming season. Albion North out of the Escondido area and Rebels East out of El Cajon area. Both teams, same year group, played NPL last season, were assured that they would be playing in the SoCal RL2 league this year. Not sure how that is going to work? I haven't seen any specifics about how RL2 is going to work, but I highly doubt any clubs are going to be allowed to have two teams in the same league. Maybe Sporting will have a tournament between Temecula, Norco, OC, South Bay, Escondido, and El Cajon and the winners get the spot???
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The Albion Norte now Sporting USA San Diego club is out of San Marcos, not Escondido - that’s NCYSA - FC Heat, Nomads Esco, Rayodos FC. Rebels East now Sporting USA San Diego South is out of the El Cajon/La Mesa area.

Sporting USA San Diego (formerly Albion Norte) has been accepted into the USY Elite 64 National League as a full club for their boys and girls programs respectively. Sporting USA San Diego was invited to play Elite 64 National League last season with 3 boys teams under the Legends FC banner and all 3 teams finished in the top 5 or higher. The Elite 64 NL program will be out of San Diego.

The Sporting USA San Diego (formerly Albion Norte) G07 NPL league winners will play in the E64 while the Sporting USA San Diego South (formerly Rebels East) G07 NPL team will play ECNL RL2.

North County, San Diego
Esco Heat - SOCAL/NPL
Esco Nomads - SOCAL/NPL
Vista Storm - SOCAL/NPL
Oceanside Breakers - SOCAL and E64 Boys
AYSO United San Marcos - SOCAL
City SC Carlsbad - SOCAL/NPL and MLSnext/EA - GA/DPL
City SC San Marcos - SOCAL - EA2 and DPL Open
Sporting USA SD, San Marcos - SOCAL/NPL and E64 Boys/Girls

East County
EC Surf - SOCAL/NPL and E64 Boys/Girls
SD Sporting - SOCAL/NPL
Albion EC - SOCAL/NPL
Crusaders - SOCAL and EA2 Boys
Sporting USA San Diego South - SOCAL/NPL - E64 and RL2 teams

Temecula/Murrieta
Empire Surf - SOCAL and E64 Boys/Girls
MSA - SOCAL and MLSnext/EA - GA/DPL
City SC Temecula - SOCAL, EA2, DPL Open
Sporting USA South - SOCAL/NPL and ECNL RL and RL2 teams

Let the chips fall where they may.
 
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