Soccerjunkie24
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Cue families sold for years on X,Y or Z league being better and 'the best'........coach changes to club that has another X,Y or Z league that is now 'the best'.
'23-'24 SoCal and National Forecast and Updates
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Soccerjunkie24
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Interesting development for sure. Just want to caution you though, like a big caution. SW ECNL is nothing remotely close to USYS. Rankings with USYS teams can be very misleading as they are inflated due to many mismatches and lopsided results. Last year the USYS Championship had quite a few ECNL/GA B and C teams.
Also, and this goes for almost any team that has not kept the same core for many years (fortunetly LVS does have this) U16 is the most toxic year in youth soccer, hands down. Combine that with losing games when a team is not used to it, can cause major problems.
I do think your new team will certainly be competative but assuming you will make NL playoffs or even North American Cup is so far far FAR away from a given. Unfortunetly I think your team might be having their eyes opened in a big way. IMO LVSH will be similar to a Sharks or Slammers finish. Currently LVSH is 1-2 against ECNL teams; one win against bottom table Sporting California, loss to bottom table Heat, and loss to Dallas Texans which is a bottom seed NL playoff team.
As for "Super Teams", Solar and DKSC combined this year. Obviously Solar won ECNL the year defore and DKSC was also a top 5 in the US before this team formed. Looking at that you would think they would be similar to 07 Solar but that has not been the case and they struggled early on. It looks like they might be finally finding their form now which is scary going into ECNL playoffs.
So you and I have always been cool, just trying to help you out here. Nothing wrong with being optimistic about the future. I certainly think there is a chance at competing for a NL playoff spot but you may want to turn that volume down some. ECNL is on another level with tough teams in the top 2/3rds of the table in almost every division. If LVSH was in Ohio Valley or Southeast conference, I would punch your ticket now, haha.
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that would be more games than this year. not enough weekends during ecnl season and too many injuries already this year.
Most other conferences have 15-18 games per year. SW has 23-24. That's a lot.
Same teams, play once, means 16 games per year. If y'all have a higher than average injury rate, it makes a lot of sense.
What's ironic is that Rob Harrisons Liverpool FCIA SoCal - G10 DPL team was/is very good. It will be interesting to see if he takes players with him to Blues.
They're a DPL team thats ranked higher than several Sourhwest G2010 ECNL teams.
Will the ECNL is better than everything else parents be able to accept a former DPL coach?
SoccerFan6
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Exactly. Look at the way the boys ECNL does it. 12 teams, LV and SoCal teams only. For the girls it would be Heat, Rebels, Surf, Sharks, Blues, Pats, HBK, Sporting, Legends, Beach, LAFC, Eagles. You play each team 2x, home and away. 22 total games, 7 of the 12 teams make the playoffs.
Soccerjunkie24
SILVER
Already happening as I understand it. several moving over to Blues and/or Pats ECNL plus training with other clubs. Sure the 11's will follow suit also, although that will be tough given the level of both Blues ECNL and ECNL RL. Couple that with yet another name change for the club.
Uh, what about Breakers and Slammers? That would make it 14 teams and 26 games, right? I don't see them increasing from the 23-24 games this year.
SoccerFan6
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You're right, I skipped over them...that's what I get for trying to do it from memory. Even with 14, I still think it will be similar to the boys side, although I agree that 26 games is a lot. I would love it if Heat also went somewhere else and it was just the 13 SoCal teams. but, that's just me not wanting to travel
Oh Mars!!! Love this response! You da man! You said to pipe down the volume! LOOOL. Agreed on all accounts! Def going to be a wake up call in regard to the the physicality and level of play that they haven’t had in the previous season or two. Also, just so yall know, we haven’t played on this team for the last 2 years. We relocated out of state 2 years ago. Just love keeping up with the flow. Sorry if I rattled any cages!!!!
Oh, that's right, if I remember correctly you're at Boise. So the 09 Seattle Coach just took over FC Virginia. I feel for him because I don't know if he knew what he was walking into. Pretty much the entire player pool left for ECNL teams once the existing coaches and director left. FC Virginia is left with mostly B team players now. Even teams that made GA playoffs have decided not to go. Too bad, seems like a good coach. Not sure if he is staying with the 09 Seattle team for playoffs.
As for LVSH, regardless of outcome, those players will certainly get a lot more exposure and a chance to play against some really tough competition which will help going to the next level. Good move by both clubs.
Off subject, just want to put this out there. Biggest sleeper this year is now VDA and I wouldn't want to draw them in Group play. They added the FCV player on the USYNT along with another very good defender from FCV. Two playups on the 08s may also be put back on age. Other lower seeds I would want to avoid in my group are KC Athletics, SUSA, Bay Area Surf, any Southwest Conferance team, Real Colorado National and Albion (TX). Any of these teams could pull upsets as well as make it out of group play.
rainbow_unicorn
PREMIER
SW conference only gets one automatic #1 seed with a conference of 17 teams. SD Surf, HB Koge and Legends will most likely be #3 or 4 seeds since SW teams PPG are not that high since we beat up on each other...would not want to be in group with them.
Not to say it will happen this year in the playoffs, but all 3 of those teams-Surf, Koge, and Legends-made the elite 8 in Richmond last year.
so was Blues 2009 and 2010. 2009 had 4 of the 8 and 2010 had 4 of the 8 in the Finals last year. I would say that's pretty dominating for a geographical area. 2009 they were all from one Conference the Southwest. They really need to change the Southwest format as there are just too many good girls in that area.
Orangeteam
SILVER ELITE
San Juan SC from NorCal was there, so 5 from Cal. They played Koge on day 2, I watched that game.
Its really too bad ECNL can't do something better with the SW region or even California in total for that matter. Add in MVLA, as they are strong across the board, and they could really create some tough and challenging games for clubs.
Thanks I missed them. I think Southwest will get a mid season tournament as well like Texas with automatic champions league playoff spots.
There never was a debate.