How’s the 2023-24 season going?

TeamDadJokes said:
It kind of makes sense if you think about it. NPL doesn’t really have any showcases, but participating in ECRL can at least provide a pathway for showcases for older teams outside of USYS National Playoffs.

For clubs with ECNL and NPL it makes it even easier to move players within each team now as it’s under one organization now.

Players can move up easier when they’re showing they can play at a higher level and vice versa players can move down to get more play time should they be a bubble player.

In the 2010 bracket, there are some NPL teams that are stronger than some of the RL teams that are currently present. I’m thinking of teams like Tudela, TFA OC, and Fury, And clubs with ECNL like SoCal blues, Slammers, LAFC and I’m sure Surf can all benefit from this change in regarding to moving players around as needed (again this is in theory given were moving players with good intentions).

It looks like the first step in a promotion / relegation system to be implemented at the gate way for the highest level.
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For what it's worth. I've heard of DPL inviting clubs/teams that they're trying to recruit to events.

Same end result just not as structured.
 
Teddy_Olive said:
Seems like it’s a good confidence builder for the players and a gauge for coaches to get an early start as to who will eventually get recruited to play D1 and beyond. If 30 girls made the SoCal PDP team. Those girls are probably the top G10 players in the country.
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False. SoCal PDP is probably the biggest scam and money grab since….well ODP in So cal.
Don‘t waste your time and money.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
I agree, Liverpools younger DPL teams are doing very well and should be promoted.

I'd also like to see SD Force promoted up to GA and SDSC (girls) relegated to DPL. The only problem with doing this is SDSC would likely switch over to ECRL.
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SDSC can't just switch to ECRL. The mothership has the area on lockdown and likely gets a second program before any new club is added.

As for Force, they may deserve it, but they may be victims to similar politics in the GA/DPL ecosystem.
 
VanMan said:
SDSC can't just switch to ECRL. The mothership has the area on lockdown and likely gets a second program before any new club is added.

As for Force, they may deserve it, but they may be victims to similar politics in the GA/DPL ecosystem.
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A 2nd Surf team at each age group makes a lot of sense.
 
SurfSupDude said:
What leads you to think that?

I’m assuming that you mean a second ECRL team. But please correct me if my assumption is wrong.
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There's enough talent in SD and South LA for Surf to field 2 ECNL teams. Most top players would switch clubs if a 2nd Surf team was viable. Even without local players Surf could recruit from outside SD and parents would move.

The one issue with 2 teams at Surf is unless they played in different regional leagues both couldn't be #1.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
There's enough talent in SD and South LA for Surf to field 2 ECNL teams. Most top players would switch clubs if a 2nd Surf team was viable. Even without local players Surf could recruit from outside SD and parents would move.

The one issue with 2 teams at Surf is unless they played in different regional leagues both couldn't be #1.
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Got it. Thank you.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
There's enough talent in SD and South LA for Surf to field 2 ECNL teams. Most top players would switch clubs if a 2nd Surf team was viable. Even without local players Surf could recruit from outside SD and parents would move.

The one issue with 2 teams at Surf is unless they played in different regional leagues both couldn't be #1.
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why would you move for your kids to play soccer? The highest paid player in NWSL never played ECNL. Just local boys clubs and high schools (not mls or ecnl clubs) because she was too poor to travel. That's the way to go.
 
sockma said:
why would you move for your kids to play soccer? The highest paid player in NWSL never played ECNL. Just local boys clubs and high schools (not mls or ecnl clubs) because she was too poor to travel. That's the way to go.
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I agree but some people do move for youth soccer.

If your kid had ridiculous talent but you lived in Omaha Nebraska. Moving to San Diego to play for Surf isn't that bad of a deal.

I've also seen parents that are crazy + move just to chase whichever club they think is the best.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
There's enough talent in SD and South LA for Surf to field 2 ECNL teams. Most top players would switch clubs if a 2nd Surf team was viable. Even without local players Surf could recruit from outside SD and parents would move.

The one issue with 2 teams at Surf is unless they played in different regional leagues both couldn't be #1.
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They launched a second RL program on the boys' side this year. There's been a lot of talk of a second RL program on the girls' side, maybe as soon as next year. Guessing it takes them at least a couple of years of buildup to be competitive with a second RL program, let alone a second NL program that's fighting for top of table.
 
sockma said:
why would you move for your kids to play soccer? The highest paid player in NWSL never played ECNL. Just local boys clubs and high schools (not mls or ecnl clubs) because she was too poor to travel. That's the way to go.
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Sheep have a natural instinct to follow one another, often referred to as flocking behavior. This behavior helps them stay together for safety and protection. Similarly, soccer parents exhibit similar tendencies when it comes ECNL soccer, but it's important to remember that we have the ability to think critically and make independent decisions. Success in soccer can be achieved through passion, hard work, and making the most of available resources, rather than solely relying on elite programs. ECNL is not the only path.
 
RobbieNorwood said:
Sheep have a natural instinct to follow one another, often referred to as flocking behavior. This behavior helps them stay together for safety and protection. Similarly, soccer parents exhibit similar tendencies when it comes ECNL soccer, but it's important to remember that we have the ability to think critically and make independent decisions. Success in soccer can be achieved through passion, hard work, and making the most of available resources, rather than solely relying on elite programs. ECNL is not the only path.
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Team sport, played against other teams. People are going to gather for it.

You can try to fund an independent solution. But, for top players, if 80 of the top 100 players are in XYZ league, then perhaps XYZ league is worth a look.

Of course, there are 800 dads who think their kid is one of the top 100. Most of us are wrong. No way around that one.
 
dad4 said:
Team sport, played against other teams. People are going to gather for it.

You can try to fund an independent solution. But, for top players, if 80 of the top 100 players are in XYZ league, then perhaps XYZ league is worth a look.

Of course, there are 800 dads who think their kid is one of the top 100. Most of us are wrong. No way around that one.
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100% Dad. I remember when my son was playing Rec soccer. He was fast. Anyway, he was recruited to a play on the "B" team of a top academy. Coach said with enough practice and privates, he could make the "A" team. I loved watching him play but I knew my kid and no way he would ever make the "A" team. Coach wanted $1200 + privates and I told him, "no thanks."
 
crush said:
100% Dad. I remember when my son was playing Rec soccer. He was fast. Anyway, he was recruited to a play on the "B" team of a top academy. Coach said with enough practice and privates, he could make the "A" team. I loved watching him play but I knew my kid and no way he would ever make the "A" team. Coach wanted $1200 + privates and I told him, "no thanks."
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So it was like that omg. I'm sure the privates was his sell on why he was going to make the A team. A win win for DOC. I'm realistic, I don't think she's a top 100 player maybe top 500 ecnl player. She went & tried to play with some high level boys over the summer and it didn't go to well for her. Couldn't keep up with the overall speed and pace of the game but she is still a very good ecnl girl player. You want to see if your daughter is an elite top player then test her out with high level boys her age.
 
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Veritas said:
So it was like that omg. I'm sure the privates was his sell on why he was going to make the A team. A win win for DOC. I'm realistic, I don't think she's a top 100 player maybe top 500 ecnl player. She went & tried to play with some high level boys over the summer and it didn't go to good for her. Couldn't keep up with the overall speed and pace of the game but she is still a very good ecnl girl player. You want to see if your daughter is an elite top player then test her out with high level boys her age.
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Girls playing with boys after age 13 is an eye opener. If your kid is high level and you want to see what truely elite looks like have her play with high level boys. The general speed of play is much higher, footwork is more consistent and complex, and boys tend to take more risks while still maintaining their shape and recovering.

Girls tend to do exactly what their coach says. Also at the higher levels many are more worried about making a mistake than pushing for a breakthrough. The best girls teams get past this and start playing more like boys but it takes a long time to develop.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
Girls playing with boys after age 13 is an eye opener. If your kid is high level and you want to see what truely elite looks like have her play with high level boys. The general speed of play is much higher, footwork is more consistent and complex, and boys tend to take more risks while still maintaining their shape and recovering.

Girls tend to do exactly what their coach says. Also at the higher levels many are more worried about making a mistake than pushing for a breakthrough. The best girls teams get past this and start playing more like boys but it takes a long time to develop.
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crush said:
I would also say the girls at the Pro level do not like their friends or themselves being traded. Girls play for a different reason. Sure, they want some good pay, but they also bond together and build family, unlike the boys. I'm speaking general so please take what I say with a grain of salt and your favorite cocktail:cool:

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“We want to thank Rocky for her contributions to the Thorns and the Rose City these past four years. “In speaking with Rocky a couple days ago I know she is sad to be leaving our club, but is looking forward to the opportunities at Angel City. We also want to thank Angel City for their cooperation through this process and helping engineer this unique transfer.”

NWSL players being upset at trades has become something of a theme of the 2024 offseason, with no shortage of stars revealing their displeasure.

After being traded from Kansas City to Houston, Cece Kizer said the move wasn't "something I asked for or expected," while adding the trade "breaks my heart."

Alex Loera said it was “incredibly disheartening” to be traded from Kansas City to Bay FC back in November, while Ashley Sanchez said she was “shocked and heartbroken” to be traded by the Washington Spirit to North Carolina on draft day.
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Meh I don't buy it.

Women are just more open with their feelings than men are. They also want to maintain relationships more than men do. This is why they say that they're sad about leaving teammates.

If you were to speak one on one with a guy they'd say that they miss former teammates. It's just not something you say out loud to a larger audience. From a business perspective it might even give your new employer pause for bringing you on.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
Meh I don't buy it.

Women are just more open with their feelings than men are. They also want to maintain relationships more than men do. This is why they say that they're sad about leaving teammates.

If you were to speak one on one with a guy they'd say that they miss former teammates. It's just not something you say out loud to a larger audience. From a business perspective it might even give your new employer pause for bringing you on.
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Meh
 
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