Vaccine

Seems some ComicCon fans I know are quite disappointed they weren’t allowed to attend this year. No vax, no mask, no entry.
 
I think by now we can all see we have two types of human species. Those who admit when wrong, searches for Truth, honest, compassionate and loving. Then we have the psychopaths. They cant and will never feel like a human. No compassion and will always lie, cheat, steal and will never admit wrong doing. You all are seeing it played out live. Choose the Light.
 
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Desert Hound said:
So the problem dad has again...

Is either they were lying...or they didn't know.
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You are asking whether NIH knew, in 2021, about a variant which did not yet exist.

Of course they didn’t know. Very few people know about things which do not yet exist.

Perhaps you would rther get your medical advice from the psychic friends network.
 
dad4 said:
You are asking whether NIH knew, in 2021, about a variant which did not yet exist.

Of course they didn’t know. Very few people know about things which do not yet exist.

Perhaps you would rther get your medical advice from the psychic friends network.
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Or America’s frontline doctors!
 
dad4 said:
You are asking whether NIH knew, in 2021, about a variant which did not yet exist
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We knew within 2 months who was at risk. It wasn't the general population. It certainly wasn't kids, etc.

And yet despite that we closed biz, had kids miss school etc.
The data clearly showed early on who was at risk.

And in addition to the above many people who had no risk lost jobs because of the push to vaccinate people with no risk. And related to that people like you scoffed at the notion when it was pointed out constantly that this was an experimental vaxx with no long term studies.. and it is unethical to force people to take such a drug.

Don't pretend now people couldn't possibly know, etc. The data and real world observation showed early on what was going on.

The policy makers and people like you refused to look at real world data and adjust accordingly.

You are still in denial.
 
Desert Hound said:
We knew within 2 months who was at risk. It wasn't the general population. It certainly wasn't kids, etc.

And yet despite that we closed biz, had kids miss school etc.
The data clearly showed early on who was at risk.

And in addition to the above many people who had no risk lost jobs because of the push to vaccinate people with no risk. And related to that people like you scoffed at the notion when it was pointed out constantly that this was an experimental vaxx with no long term studies.. and it is unethical to force people to take such a drug.

Don't pretend now people couldn't possibly know, etc. The data and real world observation showed early on what was going on.

The policy makers and people like you refused to look at real world data and adjust accordingly.

You are still in denial.
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All under trumps watch, sad isn’t it?
 
dad4 said:
You are asking whether NIH knew, in 2021, about a variant which did not yet exist.

Of course they didn’t know. Very few people know about things which do not yet exist.

Perhaps you would rther get your medical advice from the psychic friends network.
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wait - scientist didn't do any sciency things? Of course they knew it was going to mutate, it's what viruses do. Research science, psychic friends network..same same.

But really, of course they knew it was going to mutate, they just didn't know in which direction - that is fair. Vaccine rollout was terrible, for many reasons - trump, politics, biden, harris, fauci, et al. Still happening but has gotten much better. At least paxlovid is a thing, prescribe away, open season.
 
dad4 said:
Your quote was from 2021. They were talking about Delta.

Did you think they had superpowers and could see the future, thus knowing about BA.5 before it even evolved?
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Way I look at it, in however many trillion or more times the Cov2 polymerase has zipped up and down its genome in the past several years, introducing errors here and there and inducing recombination, there's been just three arising moonshot genomes that changed the course of events. The first recombinant that jumped the shark in Wuhan. Delta. And then the event(s) leading to the omicron lineage. Monday morning quarterbacking requires a hypothetical. The one I think about sometimes is-what if Delta hadn't happened right when it did? The time line LE posted a bit ago lays out the "what ifs" pretty clearly.
 
Grace T. said:
1. birx is going around saying she knew the vaccines wouldn’t end it.
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Actually, if you have a link for exactly what she is saying and the context for "knew" I'd appreciate it. I assume this is during interviews as she goes around on her book tour. In some ways I see her as a sympathetic figure. If you look at the organizational hierarchy of the task force during that critical time she was essentially responsible for much of it and in charge of none of it. But asymptomatic spread was her pet thing and the way she tried to push on that a) messed up the data reporting in b) ways that didn't really track asymptomatic spread. So she made matters worse for herself. So if she, like Billy Barr, has written a book and is going around on the mea culpa cable news/talk show circuit, saying inflammatory things those need to be looked at critically. I mean, if her book is just another "here's how I kept my moral compass in the Trump White House shit storm" that's a pretty well worn path at this point and a missed opportunity. If the book instead focuses on administratively here's how things worked-or didn't-from her perspective that's more useful. But she was pretty much walled off from the vaccines. That was Miley and Jared (presumably there to hoover up any loose change).
 
Happened again said:
paxlovid is a thing, prescribe away, open season.
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Agree with that part. Meant to be a "buy a little time for heroics if at death's door" sort of application. But expanded to be "Your Covid's not clearing up, well, let's try this". Which (just my opinion) maybe pushing people whose immune systems are poised in the right way towards long term, systemic/neurological outcomes. Again, just my opinion there.
 
We are all controlled by Parasites ((see picture)). These psychopaths can't feel remorse, compassion or love and they feed off your light and your ability to love, have remorse and have compassion for each other and to do what is right. The one's at very top are vampires and 100% come from the bloodline of Cain and they survive off our blood, endless wars, hate, destruction, cheating, lying and stealing. Cain's only instinct was to kill his brother Abel and he did. Cain was like a wild wolf or lion and only kills. Legend has it that Eve was actually beguiled by Lucifer and they produced a little monster man that has different DNA then the pure God DNA that Adam & Even had. Abel was a good man and did what pleased God. Cain killed Abel! Deep stuff folks and were all watching the collapse of the psychopaths. Watch these dudes on here and see how they write. I thought through love, forgiveness and kindness they would wake up. Nope, impossible!! They also wormed their way into girls soccer. I know for sure I dealt with three of them. I will look to try & help those caught in the middle to finally WTF up. I love you all and feel so sad for the little psycho who has no ability to love. Remember, all they do is lie and they will die a liar!

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Actually, if you have a link for exactly what she is saying and the context for "knew" I'd appreciate it. I assume this is during interviews as she goes around on her book tour. In some ways I see her as a sympathetic figure. If you look at the organizational hierarchy of the task force during that critical time she was essentially responsible for much of it and in charge of none of it. But asymptomatic spread was her pet thing and the way she tried to push on that a) messed up the data reporting in b) ways that didn't really track asymptomatic spread. So she made matters worse for herself. So if she, like Billy Barr, has written a book and is going around on the mea culpa cable news/talk show circuit, saying inflammatory things those need to be looked at critically. I mean, if her book is just another "here's how I kept my moral compass in the Trump White House shit storm" that's a pretty well worn path at this point and a missed opportunity. If the book instead focuses on administratively here's how things worked-or didn't-from her perspective that's more useful. But she was pretty much walled off from the vaccines. That was Miley and Jared (presumably there to hoover up any loose change).
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If I come across it again I’ll post it. The Twitter verse has pretty much moved onto the most recent (and probably most outrageous) fauci interview where he simultaneously claims he didn’t lock down anything (blaming redfield and the cdc) and said we probably needed more rigorous distancing/masks early on. He’s also getting torched for claiming he was in favor of opening schools safely when the record of several interviews with those in political power in the fall of 2020 was that he intervened to keep them shut such as by personally calling the gov of North Carolina to postpone school reopening.

her book is anything but a self reflection of what worked and what didn’t. It’s a justification for what she did when she did it, with at first everyone working against her, and then trump/atlas working against her It’s why it pairs nicely with the atlas book (which is pretty much the same thing in reverse). They both pretty much agree on what happened (except atlas is reluctant to call out trump as a moron who was asleep at the wheel and got duped)

I doubt there will be much introspection on this from the healthcare establishment. They are too far deeply invested and the anti restriction forces have moved from they are wrong to they should be in jail (a la Hillary or trump). It would also as you imply bring to light certain uncomfortable relationships with big pharma which might end that game. And they are still duffing it (with monkey pox): I’ll predict the failure on this is so complete that the vaccine will be required for the kids of those of us that have kids right now in middle and elementary schools to attend college.
 
"Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx knowingly lied to the world when they told us the Covid-19 vaccines were safe and effective. They both have just admitted this. Birx said she knew that it wasn’t going to stop infection and Fauci admitted they really have no idea how the vaccines impact fertility. The real doctors, scientists, researchers and journalists have been exposing this for a long time. Instead, they got cancelled, arrested, called far right conspiracy theorists and people lost their jobs." Patriot Steve

Grace T, no one who already hated Trump would have believed anything he said. Trust me and just stop blaming Trump and go look in your mirror and be honest with yourself. You got played 100%. I and few of my pals said no to mask and no to ALL the jabs and we all got whacked for it. Mocked, lost jobs, lost income and lost friends for saying no to the Jabs and the mask. Look at these monsters lie to your face. They all get Covid and they all wear masks because of their boss. This will never end until WE say no more. 700,000-1,000,000 kids go missing every year and most just want to go back to normal. This planet is insane.
 
They want our kids. This is all out war on the kiddos like I said 4 years ago. WTF up normies. You have no choice now. Do you see what I see?

Mt. Pleasant School board member who mocked parents, taunted them over teaching LGBT has been arrested after he thought he was meeting a child for sex but met the police instead.
41-year-old Eric Rohman was arrested during an online sting operation conducted by the Isabella County Sheriff’s Office in Michigan to catch child sex predators. Rohman was charged with "accosting a child for immoral purposes and using a computer to commit a crime."

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Grace T. said:
If I come across it again I’ll post it. The Twitter verse has pretty much moved onto the most recent (and probably most outrageous) fauci interview where he simultaneously claims he didn’t lock down anything (blaming redfield and the cdc) and said we probably needed more rigorous distancing/masks early on. He’s also getting torched for claiming he was in favor of opening schools safely when the record of several interviews with those in political power in the fall of 2020 was that he intervened to keep them shut such as by personally calling the gov of North Carolina to postpone school reopening.

her book is anything but a self reflection of what worked and what didn’t. It’s a justification for what she did when she did it, with at first everyone working against her, and then trump/atlas working against her It’s why it pairs nicely with the atlas book (which is pretty much the same thing in reverse). They both pretty much agree on what happened (except atlas is reluctant to call out trump as a moron who was asleep at the wheel and got duped)

I doubt there will be much introspection on this from the healthcare establishment. They are too far deeply invested and the anti restriction forces have moved from they are wrong to they should be in jail (a la Hillary or trump). It would also as you imply bring to light certain uncomfortable relationships with big pharma which might end that game. And they are still duffing it (with monkey pox): I’ll predict the failure on this is so complete that the vaccine will be required for the kids of those of us that have kids right now in middle and elementary schools to attend college.
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You really need to define the word “lockdown”.

Right now, it covers everything from “the Chinese are locking people in their apartment blocks” at one end, to “they still want me to wear a mask while walking to my table at the restaurant”.

That makes the word pretty much useless, unless your goal is to talk about one thing and have your listeners imagine the other.
 
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