Let me double check which school aged children made the policies that afforded such protections… hmm, no luck there.
Let me look into the average age of those responsible for policy decisions… that’s interesting.
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Let me double check which school aged children made the policies that afforded such protections… hmm, no luck there.
Let me look into the average age of those responsible for policy decisions… that’s interesting.
There is nothing to define away. You presented evidence that Martha’s Vineyard does not have Omicron herd immunity. I agree. Martha’s Vnneyard is not herd immune to omicron.
If you want to say something about delta herd immunity, you need to show evidence of delta growth on Martha’s Vineyard. So far, you have not done so.
*yawn*
I think given this exchange you both need to concede the ‘ability to prove’ and accept a degree of faith in both of your respective positions.
a. I'm not the one making the claim we could have hit herd immunity against the delta. I'm saying there's no proof either way. What little real world evidence we have, though, runs counter to that. Is it possible? yes. Is it likely? No, particularly since south africa would have unfolded the same way.
b. Martha's vineyard had a spike beginning early december/mid december. below. Is it possible someone seeded an omicron outbreak from south africa? Yes. Is that likely? No, considering that Massachusetts even now is about 50/50 omicron/delta in last reporting.
The Vineyard Gazette | Covid-19 stories
Martha's Vineyard news pertaining to Covid-19.
COVID cases continue spike - The Martha's Vineyard Times
The number of new COVID cases shot into the triple digits last week, with 105 new cases — the first time cases have reached over 100 since the beginning of April. From Dec. 5 to 11, there were 80 cases reported at the Martha’s Vineyard Hospital, 13 at TestMV, and 12 at other providers. Of …
www.mvtimes.com
a. I'm not the one making the claim we could have hit herd immunity against the delta. I'm saying there's no proof either way. What little real world evidence we have, though, runs counter to that. Is it possible? yes. Is it likely? No, particularly since south africa would have unfolded the same way.
b. Martha's vineyard had a spike beginning early december/mid december. below. Is it possible someone seeded an omicron outbreak from south africa? Yes. Is that likely? No, considering that Massachusetts even now is about 50/50 omicron/delta in last reporting.
The Vineyard Gazette | Covid-19 stories
Martha's Vineyard news pertaining to Covid-19.vineyardgazette.com
COVID cases continue spike - The Martha's Vineyard Times
The number of new COVID cases shot into the triple digits last week, with 105 new cases — the first time cases have reached over 100 since the beginning of April. From Dec. 5 to 11, there were 80 cases reported at the Martha’s Vineyard Hospital, 13 at TestMV, and 12 at other providers. Of …
So, strongly weighted opinions, but impossible to ‘prove’ on both sides.
Don’t get distracted by trying to find the ‘proof’ (sorry, can’t avoid a dad joke as a parent).
Thought this was a good listen , and yes I’ve read the Atlantic hit piece on him
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#1757 - Dr. Robert Malone, MD
Listen to this episode from The Joe Rogan Experience on Spotify. Dr. Robert Malone is the inventor of the nine original mRNA vaccine patents, which were originally filed in 1989 (including both the idea of mRNA vaccines and the original proof of principle experiments) and RNA transfection. Dr...
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Thought this was a good listen , and yes I’ve read the Atlantic hit piece on him
#1757 - Dr. Robert Malone, MD
Listen to this episode from The Joe Rogan Experience on Spotify. Dr. Robert Malone is the inventor of the nine original mRNA vaccine patents, which were originally filed in 1989 (including both the idea of mRNA vaccines and the original proof of principle experiments) and RNA transfection. Dr...
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Thought this was a good listen , and yes I’ve read the Atlantic hit piece on him
#1757 - Dr. Robert Malone, MD
Listen to this episode from The Joe Rogan Experience on Spotify. Dr. Robert Malone is the inventor of the nine original mRNA vaccine patents, which were originally filed in 1989 (including both the idea of mRNA vaccines and the original proof of principle experiments) and RNA transfection. Dr...
A more thorough look at mRNA development history than the Atlantic article which focused mostly on Malone's personality problems.
The tangled history of mRNA vaccines
Hundreds of scientists had worked on mRNA vaccines for decades before the coronavirus pandemic brought a breakthrough.
www.nature.com
lengthy discussion about all things Covid
We’ll she starts off with a false canard…that it’s possible to avoid Covid. As I wrote in March 2020: everyone Is going to get it and multiple times
then she shifts to the idea we’ll just until more antivirals are available. The issue is there are issues surrounding the ones we have (such as the mutations on the one: and that it’s contraindicated for several groups on the other)….there’s nothing else on the horizon. So what you’d be banking on is an omicron specific vaccine and no further mutations and then convincing everyone to take a 4th shot (after public health has majorly burned their credibility).
She then shifts into the old canard about long Covid (which has been shown to be small for the vaccinated and so far even smaller for the omicron). she then shifts to the glass staff argument but doesn’t acknowledge these people (especially children) are equally or more vulnerable to flu and we don’t go out of our way every year.
She then suggests several common sense measures which are less measured than even dad4s shut indoor dining…sure do that….it won’t make a dent against omicron…as long as you are forcing people out to work it will spread let alone socialize and schools. Finally she ends up with higher end masks…good luck with that.
School opening delays now in Cleveland, Detroit, Ann Arbor, several districts in missouri, Massachusetts and New Jersey.
babs has sent out a letter to LAUSD and the other la county districts and indie schools mandating better masks and testing requirements including masks while outdoors. Rumor has it the letter contains levels at which school sports and schools will be shut down but no one has tweeted or reported the actual letter yet so this is unconfirmed. Other rumor I’ve seen is that indoor sports have been suspended and that tournaments with out of county participants are prohibited. Again unconfirmed. No one so far has a copy of the letter I’ve seen. Eric s at the la times only tweeted the first page so only the first sentence seems definite.
babs has sent out a letter to LAUSD and the other la county districts and indie schools mandating better masks and testing requirements including masks while outdoors. Rumor has it the letter contains levels at which school sports and schools will be shut down but no one has tweeted or reported the actual letter yet so this is unconfirmed. Other rumor I’ve seen is that indoor sports have been suspended and that tournaments with out of county participants are prohibited. Again unconfirmed. No one so far has a copy of the letter I’ve seen. Eric s at the la times only tweeted the first page so only the first sentence seems definite.
Schools in Newark and some in New York City join the delayed opening list. The reaction among parents is growing. There’s a vocal group of parents and teachers demanding the schools go remote and there’s another thats is adamantly opposed. The biggest political obstacle and the thing being used to hang the d politicians are that the bars and restaurants are packed but they are closing schools first. Fact that this is also happening Midwest (and not just New England/nyc/west coast) is going to have huge political implications for the ds even in districts that don’t close but are nearby those that do. It’s the Disneyland rule corollary: you can’t close the schools if you have bars and restaurants open.
here in Los Angeles no one (not even the la times story covering it) has been able to produce what’s on the second page of the la county letter other than the metric for School:sports shut down is 3000 hospitalizations per day. La cases now exceed last years winter peak despite the Los Angeles mask mandates and in fact exceed the oc.
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Of all innovations it's fitting what you picked, and equally fitting that your merry band of pussies agrees.
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Also, I'm sure our WWI ancestors didn't use "delighted"
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In the Ultimate Lockdown, Researchers in Antarctica Get the Rona - Victory Girls Blog
Belgian researchers in Antarctica, at the most remote end of the earth, have tested positive for COVID.
victorygirlsblog.com
Assume 1 person came down with it in transit (possible they caught it on way through South Africa even though they quarantined). That’s a 66% failure rate for the boosters. A 66% failure rate means the vaccine boosters are doing substantial nothing to slow the spread now with omicron. Mandates are worthless at this point. That’s case over. QED.In the Ultimate Lockdown, Researchers in Antarctica Get the Rona - Victory Girls Blog
Belgian researchers in Antarctica, at the most remote end of the earth, have tested positive for COVID.
You seem to have forgotten that the 1918 flu killed more people than the great war.
Yes, it was fitting. And apparently fitting that you missed it. Zounds! What a poor historian you are!