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Apparently, Grace has realized she stumbled on the Fauci/AIDS comment and is just going to ignore it.
This is just from the first 2 pages of a google search. Note I'm not passing on the validity of the criticism (since I don't know enough about the circumstances surrounded that era and have not deep dived)....only that it exists and that the criticism is from both sides of the aisle.
Fauci Was Duplicitous on the AIDS Epidemic Too | The Daily Economy
"If you want to see an end to the lockdown madness, the ongoing destruction of human lives and livelihoods, and the unprecedented government failures t ...
www.aier.org
Anthony Fauci - Wikipedia
Opinion | Unlearned AIDS Lessons for Covid
In the 1980s, Fauci and Redfield sowed fear about a heterosexual epidemic that never happened.
www.wsj.com
Video Resurfaces of Fauci Warning ‘Household Contact’ with AIDS Patients Could Put Kids at Risk
His stubborn focus on producing a vaccine rather than therapeutics was of particular frustration to activists and other scientists.
Welcome
PETA Statement: What Fauci Fails to Admit in His 'World AIDS Day' Statement | PETA
Please see PETA Senior Vice President Kathy Guillermo’s statement in response to Dr. Anthony Fauci’s glaring omission in his World AIDS Day statement Please see PETA Senior Vice President Kathy Guillermo’s statement in response to Dr. Anthony Fauci’s glaring omission in his World AIDS Day...
www.peta.org
Fauci pushed back on Sen. Ron Johnson's claims that he 'overhyped' the AIDS crisis and COVID-19
"Overhyping AIDS that's killed over 750,000 Americans and 36 million people worldwide? How do you overhype that?" Fauci asked.
www.businessinsider.com
This is just from the first 2 pages of a google search. Note I'm not passing on the validity of the criticism (since I don't know enough about the circumstances surrounded that era and have not deep dived)....only that it exists and that the criticism is from both sides of the aisle.
Fauci Was Duplicitous on the AIDS Epidemic Too | The Daily Economy
"If you want to see an end to the lockdown madness, the ongoing destruction of human lives and livelihoods, and the unprecedented government failures t ...
Anthony Fauci - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Opinion | Unlearned AIDS Lessons for Covid
In the 1980s, Fauci and Redfield sowed fear about a heterosexual epidemic that never happened.
Video Resurfaces of Fauci Warning ‘Household Contact’ with AIDS Patients Could Put Kids at Risk
His stubborn focus on producing a vaccine rather than therapeutics was of particular frustration to activists and other scientists.www.yahoo.com
Welcome
aep.lib.rochester.edu
PETA Statement: What Fauci Fails to Admit in His 'World AIDS Day' Statement | PETA
Please see PETA Senior Vice President Kathy Guillermo’s statement in response to Dr. Anthony Fauci’s glaring omission in his World AIDS Day statement Please see PETA Senior Vice President Kathy Guillermo’s statement in response to Dr. Anthony Fauci’s glaring omission in his World AIDS Day...www.peta.org
Fauci pushed back on Sen. Ron Johnson's claims that he 'overhyped' the AIDS crisis and COVID-19
"Overhyping AIDS that's killed over 750,000 Americans and 36 million people worldwide? How do you overhype that?" Fauci asked.
Here is the entire HIV/AIDS section of the Wikipedia article you cited --
HIV/AIDS epidemic
In a 2020 interview with The Guardian, Fauci remarked, "My career and my identity has really been defined by HIV."[23] He was one of the leading researchers during the AIDS epidemic in the early 1980s.[24] In 1981, he and his team of researchers began looking for a vaccine or treatment for this novel virus, though they would meet a number of obstacles.[25] In October 1988, protesters came to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Fauci, who had become the institute's director in 1984, bore the brunt of the anger from the LGBTQ+ community who were largely ignored by the government.[26][27]
Leading AIDS activist Larry Kramer attacked Fauci relentlessly in the media.[28] He called him an "incompetent idiot" and a "pill-pushing" tool of the medical establishment. Fauci did not have control over drug approval though many people felt he was not doing enough. Fauci did make an effort in the late 1980s to reach out to the LGBTQ+ community in New York and San Francisco to find ways he and the NIAID could find a solution.[26] Though Fauci was initially admonished for his treatment of the AIDS epidemic, his work in the community was eventually acknowledged. Kramer, who had spent years hating Fauci for his treatment of the HIV/AIDS epidemic, eventually called him "the only true and great hero" among government officials during the AIDS crisis.[29][26]
Political commentator Helen Andrews defended Fauci's actions during the epidemic in a 2021 article, writing:
No question that Atlas is a Trump fanboy, but this letter is hardly settled science. Most of the points are slightly to greatly exaggerated. Definitely looking at things through rose colored glasses and not from an unbiased medical standpoint. Looks like a medical pissing match more than anything else.Open Letter re- SA-final 09-09-20 (R7)pp.pdf
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What did they get wrong?
T-Mobile told my son and I no entry without a mask today. My son gave me that look like "please Papa, let's just go and please dont cause a seen." I gave the employee the look and I had to ask, "Do you have any extra masks for your customers?" and nice man said, "yes." It was a great time. Dude told me under his breath how lame it is to make ask people to wear a mask. We both laughed and he told me, "you can keep it under your nose." I told him thanks so much and we made each others day better. My son told me I have changed and he was happy as well. I told the worker how much I appreciated him and how this must be hard to have to tell grown adults to put a mask on or no service. He said you have no idea. I bet he quits soon.
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If you keep babying him, he'll never learn to fend for himselfThis is just from the first 2 pages of a google search. Note I'm not passing on the validity of the criticism (since I don't know enough about the circumstances surrounded that era and have not deep dived)....only that it exists and that the criticism is from both sides of the aisle.
Fauci Was Duplicitous on the AIDS Epidemic Too | The Daily Economy
"If you want to see an end to the lockdown madness, the ongoing destruction of human lives and livelihoods, and the unprecedented government failures t ...
Anthony Fauci - Wikipedia
Opinion | Unlearned AIDS Lessons for Covid
In the 1980s, Fauci and Redfield sowed fear about a heterosexual epidemic that never happened.
Video Resurfaces of Fauci Warning ‘Household Contact’ with AIDS Patients Could Put Kids at Risk
His stubborn focus on producing a vaccine rather than therapeutics was of particular frustration to activists and other scientists.
Welcome
PETA Statement: What Fauci Fails to Admit in His 'World AIDS Day' Statement | PETA
Please see PETA Senior Vice President Kathy Guillermo’s statement in response to Dr. Anthony Fauci’s glaring omission in his World AIDS Day statement Please see PETA Senior Vice President Kathy Guillermo’s statement in response to Dr. Anthony Fauci’s glaring omission in his World AIDS Day...www.peta.org
Fauci pushed back on Sen. Ron Johnson's claims that he 'overhyped' the AIDS crisis and COVID-19
"Overhyping AIDS that's killed over 750,000 Americans and 36 million people worldwide? How do you overhype that?" Fauci asked.
Vinay Prasad's breakdown of the numbers in the nature study on myocarditis. It appears for men under 40 the rate of myocarditis for Pfizer dose 2 &3 and all moderna all doses is greater than after COVID infection. Now, men in this age group may have other risk profiles that makes taking the vaccine advisable, but it does mean the vaccines for some may court a more substantial risk than natural infection, particularly athletes. But it means, particularly for teens for the Pfizer and for other young men and mrna vaccines, the vaccines (particularly if they do not substantially curb community spread) should NOT be mandated. It's really problematic that the US does not have other vaccine choices for the population in general and for young men in particular (the FDA recently having taken steps to disfavor the J&J vaccine).
The moderna 2nd vaccine in particular seems to pose substantial risks , which is why some countries have said it is contraindicated for young men. If this holds up, the US public health authorities are doing a great disservice in young men by allowing moderna to continue for this age group, and for pushing moderna boosters without further investigation. If the data is correct, this is really almost criminal that they are allowing this to continue. Out of all the errors public health has made throughout this, if the numbers are correct, if they ignore this it will have been the worst offense they have committed. We're supposed to all be about the data and science no???
vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com
The moderna 2nd vaccine in particular seems to pose substantial risks
, which is why some countries have said it is contraindicated for young men. If this holds up, the US public health authorities are doing a great disservice in young men by allowing moderna to continue for this age group, and for pushing moderna boosters without further investigation. If the data is correct, this is really almost criminal that they are allowing this to continue. Out of all the errors public health has made throughout this, if the numbers are correct, if they ignore this it will have been the worst offense they have committed. We're supposed to all be about the data and science no???
UK Now Reports Myocarditis stratified by Age & Sex After Vaccine Or Sars-cov-2
Nature Medicine paper revisited: And it is shocking
vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com
I had to go into the T-Mobile store (for some reason they blocked my credit card...they keep claiming its my bank but my bank has investigated and they say it's a vendor problem...called online help but they couldn't fix it so they sent me to the store...which was idiotic because the store just called online help which said they couldn't fix it). Every customer in the store (about 5 of them) had their masks under their nose when I walked in. Maybe it's a t-mobile thing.
Vinay Prasad's breakdown of the numbers in the nature study on myocarditis. It appears for men under 40 the rate of myocarditis for Pfizer dose 2 &3 and all moderna all doses is greater than after COVID infection. Now, men in this age group may have other risk profiles that makes taking the vaccine advisable, but it does mean the vaccines for some may court a more substantial risk than natural infection, particularly athletes. But it means, particularly for teens for the Pfizer and for other young men and mrna vaccines, the vaccines (particularly if they do not substantially curb community spread) should NOT be mandated. It's really problematic that the US does not have other vaccine choices for the population in general and for young men in particular (the FDA recently having taken steps to disfavor the J&J vaccine).
The moderna 2nd vaccine in particular seems to pose substantial risks
UK Now Reports Myocarditis stratified by Age & Sex After Vaccine Or Sars-cov-2
Nature Medicine paper revisited: And it is shocking
Career contrarian.
Did Vinay Prasad need to mention the Nazis to make a point on the U.S. pandemic response? - The Cancer Letter
Vinay Prasad might well have made his contrarian points without invoking the specter of the Third Reich. He didn’t have to go there—but he did. Voluntarily. Prasad, an oncologist and associate professor in the Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at UCSF, likes a good Twitter fight. He...
cancerletter.com
I thought you hated ads? So you attack him as a career contrarian instead of attacking the data itself. Got itCareer contrarian.
Did Vinay Prasad need to mention the Nazis to make a point on the U.S. pandemic response? - The Cancer Letter
Vinay Prasad might well have made his contrarian points without invoking the specter of the Third Reich. He didn’t have to go there—but he did. Voluntarily. Prasad, an oncologist and associate professor in the Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at UCSF, likes a good Twitter fight. He...
ps. I love the comedy. You do so make me laugh. I don’t think the 3 trolls are one and the same but if they are this is by far your best persona.
Did you read the linked article?
Yes it mentioned nothing about the data. Just some irrelevant debate whether his characterization of covid policies as fascist is valid. You are attacking the presenter not the data which is something you always claim to dislike.
Getting back to the article -- when was the last time you saw a technical report with exclamation points? The article was full of conclusions without much data, presented in a way that his final statements were predictable after reading the first paragraph. Maybe I should have spelled that out before quoting what serious clinicians think of him.
Funny.
A more sober examination --
Myocarditis and Pericarditis After mRNA COVID-19 Vaccination
Learn about myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination. CDC still recommends that everyone aged 5 years and older get vaccinated. (142)
www.cdc.gov
Realistic. The author has a history of making outrageous statements, which bears directly on his credibility.
Another chuckle. You are doing exactly what you claim to hate. Noted.