Soccer gave away the golden goose to other sports at high school

Lou Sag said:
"Have you ever watched a HS soccer game? The quality of play is awful!
"I have been watching, playing, coaching and refereeing HS soccer/club soccer for 46 years now"
"Just Awful" Only one good HSS school, that's it!

Soccer 43 says:
"I am so sick of people complaining about high school soccer. We have enjoyed high school soccer immensely, so many amazing memories."

Just needed a name responded with:
"Soccer parents come off as snobs."

Carlsbad 7 added a thought I liked as well:
It's not just the "snob" factor it's also the jerkoffs that want to make themselves feel better by dumping on or excluding others.


Socal -Soccer-Dad chimed in as well:
haha let's be honest... isn't that why we are all on here? :) little friendly banter, I'll get my popcorn out.

Ellejustus says:
I believe the snobs took over this sport and I can prove it.
Now is not the time, later though......
 
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Snob: a person with an exaggerated respect for high social position or wealth who seeks to associate with social superiors and dislikes people or activities regarded as lower-class.

"her mother was a snob and wanted a lawyer as a son-in-law"

a person who believes that their tastes in a particular area are superior to those of other people.

What is snobby attitude?

English Language Learners Definition of snobbish

having or showing the attitude of people who think they are better than other people : of or relating to people who are snobs.


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What I find find funny about youth soccer that has been identified in this thread. It's not just the "snob" factor it's also the jerkoffs that want to make themselves feel better by dumping on or excluding others. That's really why they "hate" HS soccer. HS soccer is something they cant control. With clubs you can control the team by influencing the parents + once the parents group together they can control the coach. (If this doesnt work just throw $$$ at them with "privates")
 
Carlsbad7 said:
What I find find funny about youth soccer that has been identified in this thread. It's not just the "snob" factor it's also the jerkoffs that want to make themselves feel better by dumping on or excluding others. That's really why they "hate" HS soccer. HS soccer is something they cant control. With clubs you can control the team by influencing the parents + once the parents group together they can control the coach. (If this doesnt work just throw $$$ at them with "privates")
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Carlsbad7 said:
What I find find funny about youth soccer that has been identified in this thread. It's not just the "snob" factor it's also the jerkoffs that want to make themselves feel better by dumping on or excluding others. That's really why they "hate" HS soccer. HS soccer is something they cant control. With clubs you can control the team by influencing the parents + once the parents group together they can control the coach. (If this doesnt work just throw $$$ at them with "privates")
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I added your quote to my snob take on thread #92.
 
My new favorite word is now snob. I have been called many names on this forum after 10 years, but snob is not one of them thank God. A snob(s) type of parent on a youth soccer B.O.D. spells trouble for the lower class parents with a lower class child. We will fix this after the snobs have no say. A snob TM can even be worse for those born on other side of the tracks or with much less. Yes, the snob(s) stole soccer from the rest of us.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
What I find find funny about youth soccer that has been identified in this thread. It's not just the "snob" factor it's also the jerkoffs that want to make themselves feel better by dumping on or excluding others. That's really why they "hate" HS soccer. HS soccer is something they cant control. With clubs you can control the team by influencing the parents + once the parents group together they can control the coach. (If this doesnt work just throw $$$ at them with "privates")
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WTF kind of gibberish are you talking about? Only dumb American soccer people could possibly think that having more options to play soccer at more price points and more different levels than just about anywhere in the world constitutes some nefarious plot to "control" youth soccer. Or maybe you are right. Maybe all of you soccer people are really so fucking dumb that even a youth soccer parent can "control" you, the rest of the parents and your kid's soccer coach. BTW, who exactly is leading this nefarious plot? And what, exactly are they controlling? The world? The most important sport ever created? The very lives and futures of our children? Or are you irrationally overreacting because you're (ironically) upset that you can't control the families that don't give a shit about propping yours up on a shitty HS soccer team, so therefore it must be a matter of great national importance?
 
GoldenGate said:
WTF kind of gibberish are you talking about? Only dumb American soccer people could possibly think that having more options to play soccer at more price points and more different levels than just about anywhere in the world constitutes some nefarious plot to "control" youth soccer. Or maybe you are right. Maybe all of you soccer people are really so fucking dumb that even a youth soccer parent can "control" you, the rest of the parents and your kid's soccer coach. BTW, who exactly is leading this nefarious plot? And what, exactly are they controlling? The world? The most important sport ever created? The very lives and futures of our children? Or are you irrationally overreacting because you're (ironically) upset that you can't control the families that don't give a shit about propping yours up on a shitty HS soccer team, so therefore it must be a matter of great national importance?
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Looks like I struck a chord. (This means I wrote something that bothered you so much you felt the need to respond. This kids call this being triggered)

Maybe I'm right, maybe you're wrong. Maybe a little of both.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
Looks like I struck a chord. (This means I wrote something that bothered you so much you felt the need to respond. This kids call this being triggered)

Maybe I'm right, maybe you're wrong. Maybe a little of both.
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No, the problem here is clearly that you're upset that you can't control other people that you need to prop up your kid's crappy HS soccer team, or you're upset that you get what you pay for, or probably both. If I'm wrong, please explain exactly who is upset about not being able to "control" HS soccer and what, exactly do they even want to "control" about it?
 
This has to be one of the best threads in the last 4 years. I’ve been here for a minute.
HS Soccer can be an outlet for the kids to take a break and have some fun for the school and community. Maybe they get a chance to play with friends that they haven’t had that opportunity with. The kids all have choices. If they think it’s terrible “don’t play”. It’s that simple. It’s their choice. If it’s yours than you already failed. Bottom line is there are plenty of D1 players out there playing in HS right now in So Cal.
I’be seen plenty of ECNL & GA kids out there that already are committed. Why would they continue playing you ask? To each his own and let the kids do what they want. If you don’t allow for it they will play for the wrong reasons. Love the game our kids play & most of all let them enjoy it.

& I forgot what that AssHoles name was on this forum that said my kid(s) would never wear another jersey I would have to pay for. You were wrong. This just shows you the quality of people on here looking for advice, or better yet, trying to give it.
 
Lightning Red said:
This has to be one of the best threads in the last 4 years. I’ve been here for a minute.
HS Soccer can be an outlet for the kids to take a break and have some fun for the school and community. Maybe they get a chance to play with friends that they haven’t had that opportunity with. The kids all have choices. If they think it’s terrible “don’t play”. It’s that simple. It’s their choice. If it’s yours than you already failed. Bottom line is there are plenty of D1 players out there playing in HS right now in So Cal.
I’be seen plenty of ECNL & GA kids out there that already are committed. Why would they continue playing you ask? To each his own and let the kids do what they want. If you don’t allow for it they will play for the wrong reasons. Love the game our kids play & most of all let them enjoy it.

& I forgot what that AssHoles name was on this forum that said my kid(s) would never wear another jersey I would have to pay for. You were wrong. This just shows you the quality of people on here looking for advice, or better yet, trying to give it.
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I'm hounding out 2021 awards for the forum this year. You get the "Best Post" of the year award bro. Excellent response; Let the kids choose. I see some really good D1 players playing HSS and being a leaders on the team and helping the team be a team of soccer players :)
 
This site is full of elitist ECNL parents that crap on everything that’s not related to their “high level soccer” world. I have news for you all, what are you going to do when your kid is done playing sports? Let them play high school soccer and enjoy it. Who gives a crap about the quality. I know more kids that didn’t make it to ECNL but have their life together once they graduate college. All those trophies mean nothing once they apply to a real job. I have several nephews/nieces that were star athletes and cannot adjust once their athletic careers are over.

Enjoy that high school soccer game because you don’t have too many years left before your kid is no longer playing soccer
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
This site is full of elitist ECNL parents that crap on everything that’s not related to their “high level soccer” world. I have news for you all, what are you going to do when your kid is done playing sports? Let them play high school soccer and enjoy it. Who gives a crap about the quality. I know more kids that didn’t make it to ECNL but have their life together once they graduate college. All those trophies mean nothing once they apply to a real job. I have several nephews/nieces that were star athletes and cannot adjust once their athletic careers are over.

Enjoy that high school soccer game because you don’t have too many years left before your kid is no longer playing soccer
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Boom! I think the key to any individual woman's true freedom is being allowed to make decisions for themselves as teenage girls. Most of the girls want to play HSS before their Freshman year. Trust me, it's true. It's after the talk with the head Doc at their Elite Club, then the head coach and then dad that the toon can change. After those three chime in, the player comes back to her new HS friends and tells them all, "HSS play is awful, the coach sucks, the program sucks and besides, I can get hurt and if I get hurt, my dad's dreams for my life are shattered." MOO, this is not a great way to make new friends as a Freshman. My dd got to ball with Reilyn Turner as a Freshman and as a new student to the school. She took my kid under her wing and was amazing, 100% helped my dd navigate tough waters at a new school. A great mentor to my kid and we thank her for that and I will be buying one of her shirts. She is a blast to watch and she played HSS. Go UCLA. I bet they win it all in 2022.
Lastly, I know a mom who played club soccer and then went off to play in college. Met the man of her dreams in college and got married and had kids and now her three dds all play soccer and all are expected to do what mom did, play in college, meet the her man and have kids and repeat. Soccer, soccer, soccer, no boy friend, then college, married, stay home mom and sit still look pretty and then repeat. Not all girls want that life and if you give freedom, you will find out what they truly want and some will become Queens without needing no King!!!
 
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My DD plays HS soccer and loves it. Yes, the quality of play is lesser than her club team but she is doing what she wants to do. You cannot replace playing with your HS classmates versus the revolving door club roster every season. Isn't our ultimate goal as parents is to have well rounded, strong and diverse daughters?
 
graciesdad said:
My DD plays HS soccer and loves it. Yes, the quality of play is lesser than her club team but she is doing what she wants to do. You cannot replace playing with your HS classmates versus the revolving door club roster every season. Isn't our ultimate goal as parents is to have well rounded, strong and diverse daughters?
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Yes, yes, yes!!!
 
Blam, you get "Best Original Post" award for 2021. Soccer is the Sport that the world loves and is free to play in most parts of the world. I believe soccer will help heal the planet :)
 
Lightning Red said:
This has to be one of the best threads in the last 4 years. I’ve been here for a minute.
HS Soccer can be an outlet for the kids to take a break and have some fun for the school and community. Maybe they get a chance to play with friends that they haven’t had that opportunity with. The kids all have choices. If they think it’s terrible “don’t play”. It’s that simple. It’s their choice. If it’s yours than you already failed. Bottom line is there are plenty of D1 players out there playing in HS right now in So Cal.
I’be seen plenty of ECNL & GA kids out there that already are committed. Why would they continue playing you ask? To each his own and let the kids do what they want. If you don’t allow for it they will play for the wrong reasons. Love the game our kids play & most of all let them enjoy it.

& I forgot what that AssHoles name was on this forum that said my kid(s) would never wear another jersey I would have to pay for. You were wrong. This just shows you the quality of people on here looking for advice, or better yet, trying to give it.
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You pretty much nailed it. The quality of play is subpar, but my kids aren’t playing for the competition or “trophies”, but the opportunity to share the field for the first time in their “careers”.

There are definitely schools that take pride in their Girls Soccer programs and it shows, but sadly those are in the minority (unfortunately).

For our area, HS is not about developing as a better soccer player, but more about the community experience and there Is nothing wrong with that.
 
Kicker 2.0 said:
You pretty much nailed it. The quality of play is subpar, but my kids aren’t playing for the competition or “trophies”, but the opportunity to share the field for the first time in their “careers”.

There are definitely schools that take pride in their Girls Soccer programs and it shows, but sadly those are in the minority (unfortunately).

For our area, HS is not about developing as a better soccer player, but more about the community experience and there Is nothing wrong with that.
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Now your talking like a champ, if your the original Kicker. Subpar is way better then awful......lol. My dd U6 AYSO league champs trophy is still on our shelf and it was the first of many championships for my dd in youth soccer.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
This site is full of elitist ECNL parents that crap on everything that’s not related to their “high level soccer” world. I have news for you all, what are you going to do when your kid is done playing sports? Let them play high school soccer and enjoy it. Who gives a crap about the quality. I know more kids that didn’t make it to ECNL but have their life together once they graduate college. All those trophies mean nothing once they apply to a real job. I have several nephews/nieces that were star athletes and cannot adjust once their athletic careers are over.

Enjoy that high school soccer game because you don’t have too many years left before your kid is no longer playing soccer
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The problem here isn't "elitist ECNL parents". In fact I am not aware of anyone at this forum either currently or in the past - with the exception of simisoccerfan - who has ever claimed they were too good for HS soccer. I don't think anyone in this thread has recommended kids shouldn't play HS soccer, they have only pointed out that the quality of play is terrible and that it is hard to watch, and that is a fact. Even then, they only did so because they were trying to explain why hardly anyone ever watches a boys HS soccer game. Recognizing that a HS sport is hard to watch and the quality of play is low is very different than "crapping on everything that's not related to their 'high level of soccer' world."

The irony of all of this is that the only elitist folks in this thread are those who are complaining that other people aren't doing what they want, namely not playing or watching HS soccer either because they prefer football or just don't want to play a low level soccer. In fact, this entire thread was premised on HS soccer people upset that their sport is better than football so football but doesn't get the same respect, and wanting to control others by making them play it when they don't want to. And you don't even realize it, but you're the elitist in that you're concocting a group of non-existent "elitist ECNL parents" who don't even exist at this forum who are allegedly trying to subvert HS soccer when not a single person here has done anything of the sort - other than simisoccerfan years ago. In fact, I suspect even those who recognize the obvious - that HS soccer is really hard to watch - know that because their kids actually played it and they supported their kids in doing so. I certainly do.

The self-pity and lack of self-awareness of soccer people is really off the hook. All of you need to stop whining that people should watch HS boys soccer instead of football because soccer is better, when it clearly is not. People aren't watching HS football and basketball instead of HS soccer due to some nefarious plot or because American culture is anti-soccer. No, they do it because HS football and basketball are a lot more fun to watch than HS soccer, boys at least. And also stop labeling people "elitist ECNL parents" simply because they decided on a different path for their kid than yours. You don't see them trying to dictate what your kid does, you and others here who are whining about HS football and kids who elect to forego HS soccer are the only ones trying to tell others what are best for their kids.
 
GoldenGate said:
The problem here isn't "elitist ECNL parents".
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On this site over the past 6 years, Ive heard the following from ECNL parents:

- High School Soccer is trash
- ODP is a joke
- GAL is not good
- MLS Next for boys is not better than ECNL
- College Soccer is trash
- ECRL is better than GAL
- Forget about Discovery level or Flight 1
- SoCal has the best teams and players and why do we have to play teams outside of this state.


All good, good luck with your player this year.
 
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