Vaccine

1. One-year sustained cellular and humoral immunities of COVID-19 convalescents, by Jie Zhang, Hao Lin, Beiwei Ye, Min Zhao, Jianbo Zhan, et al. Clinical Infectious Diseases, October 5, 2021. “SARS-CoV-2-specific IgG antibodies, and also NAb can persist among over 95% COVID-19 convalescents from 6 months to 12 months after disease onset. At least 19/71 (26%) of COVID-19 convalescents (double positive in ELISA and MCLIA) had detectable circulating IgM antibody against SARS-CoV-2 at 12m post-disease onset. Notably, the percentages of convalescents with positive SARS-CoV-2-specific T-cell responses (at least one of the SARS-CoV-2 antigen S1, S2, M and N protein) were 71/76 (93%) and 67/73 (92%) at 6m and 12m, respectively. Furthermore, both antibody and T-cell memory levels of the convalescents were positively associated with their disease severity.”
 
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In an article published by New York Times reporter Apoorva Mandavilli on Wednesday, Times readers were told that “nearly 900,000 children have been hospitalized with COVID-19 since the pandemic began.”

A correction issued on Thursday notes that the correct number is 63,000 between August 2020 and October 2021, which means Mandavilli exaggerated the number of child hospitalizations by 837,000 cases. Approximately 500 American children have eventually died from the disease. The exaggeration was included in a report on the debate surrounding whether and how to vaccinate children.

NYT had an excellent Covid reporter but they fired him earlier this year ( I’ll let you decide if it was justified or not )

now they are stuck with this exceptional writer that the corrections to this story were almost as long as the article itself. She also claimed that looking into the lab leak theory was racist
 
Bruddah IZ previously posted a chart showing that only 17 people per day were dying of Covid in FL as of 10/2. He posted it in support of how great FL has done to control Covid by doing nothing. I pointed out to him that the chart is misleading in that FL changed the way it reports Covid deaths, so that the actual death rate for this time period is actually much, much higher, as time will tell when FL eventually has no choice but to report deaths for that date. Bruddah IZ responded with a pack of lies. And Watfly followed up by claiming his right wing friends "tend to" provide facts, which is insane.

My point is that FL is doing a terrible job, and certainly much worse than what Bruddah IZ knows is an inaccurate and misleading graph. FL is doing terrible and will soon have 2x the death rate of CA. My point is that Bruddah IZ and his right wing nut job friends will say any lie, no matter how demonstrably false, to support their agenda, and weak-minded people like Watfly will lap it up. Are you one of them? Do you believe that only 17 people a day were dying in FL as of Oct. 2nd as Bruddah IZ claimed, or do you believe that number is much higher based on the exact same updated chart from the exact same website?

If you don't want to hear about dead people and learn what behavior led directly to their unnecessary deaths, then don't hang out at a youth soccer website. Sheesh. If you don't want people to insult others here, then maybe you should say something to bruddah iz, desert hound, the strict constructionist and crush.
You really don't have a point, but that's neither here nor there. How are you predicting the death rate? Your grasp in general about the subject (any subject, from what I can tell) is very basic and is limited to talking points, insults, and posturing. Amusing comes to mind.

Go ahead and post about dead people, shows how little you know about death. Your well within your rights to post almost whatever you want. Doesn't really bother me.

Usually people hang out on a youth soccer forum because they have children who play. That's normally the ticket to entry. If you choose to wander off into other conversations, so be it. Maybe you have a child, maybe you don't. I don't really know. Gut tells me you don't. Your ability to entertain is enough - I thank you for that.
 
Hi fellas and hi to Grace T. I've missed you all. I dont have time to read up on the last week. I have been driving across the country the last 7 days. Getting ready to create and build a better way that is not on my back, so to speak :) and to live and do business as one. I can't share all the details yet but my wife and I are super excited to build a better tomorrow for us and others who want fairness and honesty as #1 in their mission statement. With that said, our country is hurting all over. I went fast so it's not a sampling of everyone so please take with a grain of salt. I got to North Carolina in 3 and half days. My HOT wife and I are now celebrating our 24th year of marriage in Gallup, NM because snow decided to come and we pulled over to be safe and warm. It's all about the next move. I love our great country by the way and I pray we can all heal some day. One of the great parts of our quick business trip was meeting my wife's ancestors from Oklahoma and North Carolina. Cherokee are amazing people. 1200 mile walk they were forced to do back in the day. I want to also be blunt with all of you with what my wife and I witnessed in each state The happiest and most friendly of all the states was North Carolina, hands down. I mean, super nice and the best customer service. New Mexico is least happy of them all. My award for the State with the most mask enforcement and obedience from their peoples is New Mexico. Mask everywhere and enforced. Most of the people are obese as well and look Misérables. In fact, I saw so many obese people and most also had a mask on. Their afraid to die. It's real fear. The look on their faces says it all. I think their all in with the mask life and it shows in NM. North Carolina folks come in 2nd place regarding mask rules. Half the peeps had mask on but were happy about it and are just following mandates they told me. I drove through Texas quickly so not sure about that State but Oklahoma was fun and people were NOT wearing a mask. The Indians we met were 100% never ever getting the jab. My wife's relative said her father told her that his dad told him never to take anything from anyone. Work for self or be a slave to the system was his take. Arkansas had the fastest gas pumps. Very hot and humid and people look beat up in these small towns. I stayed in Forrest City, AK just outside Memphis TN. I had a great time talking with my bros from another. I am a bold man and I have zero fear and I just want to love everyone. Everyone was wearing a mask but they never told me I had to. I told a few of the hard workers that were all going to love each other better and make sure all is ok. Black Mountain and Blue Ridge Mountain was amazing as well. Last but not least, the supply lines are having a big impact. We went to Denny's last night and they were out of just about anything healthy. I spoke to many folks across our country and their starting to feel the impact on the cargo ships sitting out in the Pacific. Anyway, I love you all and I hope for the best for all of us fellow Americans. Love is the only way out. Speak the truth in love to each other. The truth I have learned has some good, some bad and even some ugly. The truth is the truth.

 
Usually people hang out on a youth soccer forum because they have children who play. That's normally the ticket to entry. If you choose to wander off into other conversations, so be it. Maybe you have a child, maybe you don't. I don't really know. Gut tells me you don't. Your ability to entertain is enough - I thank you for that.
Well they act like a child with their use of insults and profanity like a pre-pubescent 7th grader on the playground with a new found vocabulary. Although, I appreciate their use of the word "dumbf*&#ery" I need to add that to my rotation.
 
Youʻre babbling.

You have nothing to say in defense of your false assertion that FL's death rate went to 17 a day as of Oct. 2nd, or that it's death rate has declined steeply and dramatically. As I explained to you earlier, your own chart was false and misleading because FL changed the way it reports Covid deaths. As I made very clear to you, that number will increase dramatically over time. After one week, it has already increased to 75.

You are the perfect example of the dumbfuck right winger. You believe even the most ridiculous things that DeSantis and Trump tell you because that is what you want to believe. When it is proven definitively wrong based on your own chart, rather than accept reality, you just deny its existence completely. It must be very hard living a life in which virtually everything you believe gets proven to be complete b.s., leaving you with two options, either complete humiliation that you've been a dumbfuck or a complete disassociation from reality to preserve your fragile ego. All of you seem to choose the latter every single time.

FL has the best dead anti-vaxxers by the way:

https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCain...lorida_man_posts_misleading_statistics_about/
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/pl50do/and_another_one_cant_stop_florida/
 
You really don't have a point, but that's neither here nor there. How are you predicting the death rate? Your grasp in general about the subject (any subject, from what I can tell) is very basic and is limited to talking points, insults, and posturing. Amusing comes to mind.

Go ahead and post about dead people, shows how little you know about death. Your well within your rights to post almost whatever you want. Doesn't really bother me.

Usually people hang out on a youth soccer forum because they have children who play. That's normally the ticket to entry. If you choose to wander off into other conversations, so be it. Maybe you have a child, maybe you don't. I don't really know. Gut tells me you don't. Your ability to entertain is enough - I thank you for that.

I am not predicting a death rate, I am just showing you the actual graphs from the same website that Bruddah claims show that FL's death rate declined to 17 a day effective Oct. 2nd.

I have questions for you. Do you believe that the graph that Bruddah provided which he claimed showed an average death rate of 17 per day as of 10/2 in FL is accurate? If so, how do you explain that that the same graph is now at 75 a day as of 10/2? Why are you criticizing me for discussing this and not Bruddah since he is the one who brought it up AND provided intentionally false information? Are you a right wing nut job also? Or do you just think that right wing nut jobs should be able to say whatever dumbfuck things they want, no matter how false, without pushback? Do you even understand the difference between facts and opinion? Why is it exactly that you think that right wing nut jobs are the only ones who should be allowed to say what they want?
 
I'm sure dad4 will appreciate this....Covid math....

Covid math for San Diego County:

San Diego County
Hosp. %Death %
Hospital- OfOfSurvived
Age izations PopulationDeathsPopulationCovid
0-9 373
0.0860%​
-
0.0000%​
100.0000%​
10-19 years 393
0.0906%​
2
0.0005%​
99.9995%​
20-29 years 991
0.1867%​
20
0.0038%​
99.9962%​
30-39 years 1,462
0.2984%​
40
0.0082%​
99.9918%​
40-49 years 1,808
0.4530%​
140
0.0351%​
99.9649%​
50-59 years 2,959
0.7316%​
385
0.0952%​
99.9048%​
60-69 years 3,571
1.0494%​
835
0.2454%​
99.7546%​
70-79 years 3,054
1.5278%​
957
0.4787%​
99.5213%​
80+ years 3,112
2.5970%​
1,725
1.4395%​
98.5605%​
Total 17,723
0.5288%​
4,104
0.1224%​
99.8776%​

I can't find California hospitalizations by age, but deaths paint a similar picture.

California
Deaths %
of Survived
AgeDeathsPopulation Covid
<5
11​
0.0005%​
99.9995%​
5-17
26​
0.0004%​
99.9996%​
18-34
1,115​
0.0116%​
99.9884%​
35-49
4,179​
0.0548%​
99.9452%​
50-59
7,794​
0.1578%​
99.8422%​
60-64
6,569​
0.2818%​
99.7182%​
65-69
7,449​
0.3771%​
99.6229%​
70-74
8,016​
0.4948%​
99.5052%​
75-79
8,144​
0.7634%​
99.2366%​
80+
26,041​
1.6900%​
98.3100%​
Total
69,351​
0.1755%​
99.8245%​
 
Funny...tomato meter 91% fresh....audience score 2% fresh.

 
Covid math for San Diego County:

San Diego County
Hosp. %Death %
Hospital-OfOfSurvived
AgeizationsPopulationDeathsPopulationCovid
0-9 373
0.0860%​
-
0.0000%​
100.0000%​
10-19 years 393
0.0906%​
2
0.0005%​
99.9995%​
20-29 years 991
0.1867%​
20
0.0038%​
99.9962%​
30-39 years 1,462
0.2984%​
40
0.0082%​
99.9918%​
40-49 years 1,808
0.4530%​
140
0.0351%​
99.9649%​
50-59 years 2,959
0.7316%​
385
0.0952%​
99.9048%​
60-69 years 3,571
1.0494%​
835
0.2454%​
99.7546%​
70-79 years 3,054
1.5278%​
957
0.4787%​
99.5213%​
80+ years 3,112
2.5970%​
1,725
1.4395%​
98.5605%​
Total 17,723
0.5288%​
4,104
0.1224%​
99.8776%​

I can't find California hospitalizations by age, but deaths paint a similar picture.

California
Deaths %
ofSurvived
AgeDeathsPopulationCovid
<5
11​
0.0005%​
99.9995%​
5-17
26​
0.0004%​
99.9996%​
18-34
1,115​
0.0116%​
99.9884%​
35-49
4,179​
0.0548%​
99.9452%​
50-59
7,794​
0.1578%​
99.8422%​
60-64
6,569​
0.2818%​
99.7182%​
65-69
7,449​
0.3771%​
99.6229%​
70-74
8,016​
0.4948%​
99.5052%​
75-79
8,144​
0.7634%​
99.2366%​
80+
26,041​
1.6900%​
98.3100%​
Total
69,351​
0.1755%​
99.8245%​

what's even more striking is the vaxxed/nonvaxxed stats. An unvaxxed 10-15 year old has less of a risk of death, hospitalization, and long COVID than a vaxxed 45-50 year old.
 
what's even more striking is the vaxxed/nonvaxxed stats. An unvaxxed 10-15 year old has less of a risk of death, hospitalization, and long COVID than a vaxxed 45-50 year old.

yeah there is a comprehensive study out of England that is showing the risk factors particularly under 12 are less than actual vaccinated 30-40 year olds
 
yeah there is a comprehensive study out of England that is showing the risk factors particularly under 12 are less than actual vaccinated 30-40 year olds
Not even sure if we need a study on that.

CDC produces stats.

We know there are 70 million people in the17 and under range.

19 months into this there are roughly 480 deaths total.

They have no risk whatsoever.
 
He and others have been very bad at the math.

Or should we say how the math is interpreted and reported.

News stories, etc as the article points out do not put things into context whatsoever. This feeds into the fear people have.

Who was it that interpreted 480 deaths as "no risk whatsoever"?
 
what's even more striking is the vaxxed/nonvaxxed stats. An unvaxxed 10-15 year old has less of a risk of death, hospitalization, and long COVID than a vaxxed 45-50 year old.
yeah there is a comprehensive study out of England that is showing the risk factors particularly under 12 are less than actual vaccinated 30-40 year olds
He and others have been very bad at the math.

Or should we say how the math is interpreted and reported.

News stories, etc as the article points out do not put things into context whatsoever. This feeds into the fear people have.
Unfortunately, the risk from Covid to children is not a compelling argument for the Fear Factory. What is compelling to them is that children could possibly spread it and kill vulnerable adults. You know, because in today's society its children's responsibility to protect adults. Children had to sacrifice their education for the benefit of fearful adults.
 
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