kickingandscreaming
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Nor Cal Return to Play
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HoopsCoach
SILVER
From the CDPH, soccer players must wear facemasks, because of the current tier.
We would say nope. Not wearing. Guess you guys would have to forfeit.
If facility requires it’s a non issue. Must wear.
“As tolerated”.
Glitterhater
SILVER ELITE
I really think this depends on numbers- we're in Placer and had our second games this weekend. I can only speak for my kids' age groups but didn't see a single player while on the field wearing a mask- on the bench? Yes. All spectators, coaches? 100%.
Kind of wondering what folks saw this weekend. In my kid's game, about 25% of the kids started with a mask. The parent sideline was actually very subdued. Putting muzzles on the parents wasn't the worst thing in the world.
Norcal sent this out on Instagram, which may indicate there were some issues. I'm wondering if it was along the lines of @Jar!23 indicated. If one club is committed to masking and the other isn't, hopefully they'll talk ahead of time.
Norcal sent this out on Instagram, which may indicate there were some issues. I'm wondering if it was along the lines of @Jar!23 indicated. If one club is committed to masking and the other isn't, hopefully they'll talk ahead of time.
You need to follow the rules boys & girls. My team is all about safety & health so we play with no mask on because their so bad for the kids. Another team's coach is afraid and is making the kids wear mask or he wont coach. One team is so bad, they will do whatever it takes to not play the best team. Good luck NoCal soccer, I mean that. This is now a divisive wedge issue regarding mask or no mask and WHO is stuck in the middle? The kids..........
The American Association of Pediatrics says you’re wrong. Disregarding what they are saying and trashing any sports entity that follows their guidance, as about 10 posters did before I said anything, is hardly “open-minded reasonable discourse”. Too bad that you’re ok with “open-minded reasonable discourse” so long as it is the opposite of that. So here I am.
If you’re living in fear of wearing a mask, although there is no documented evidence that one has ever killed a single person, you and your kid can stay away from soccer fields until all this passes. Between all the anti-vaxxers and all the other trumpanzees who fight every single effort to get Covid under control, it has already taken too long, and will still take linger than it should. Almost 600,000 are dead in the U.S. now.
In our game this weekend most of the players wore masks and it didn't seem to be an issue on the field. One visiting family was not only maskless, but seemed to want to start up some trouble. They kept walking up and down the fence line and approaching different people, generally obnoxious. Nobody took the bait, but it looked like it could start a fight if they kept it up. I'm used to some of that, but I think the mask issue adds a new dimension of crazy to the games. I wish those clowns would just shut up and wear their masks so we can have our games. If you want to be a freedom fighter, go do it at walmart or the parking lot, but don't mess up the games.
What league is this Pecho Frio?
The thing you keep misquoting is a five paragraph explanation of why masks are important for any non-swimming indoor sport.
That's why you see the word "indoor" about 10 times in their recommendation; it's because they are talking about indoor sports.
The section is neutral on requiring masks for outdoor team sports, and negative on requiring masks for outdoor individual sports.
Jessiesgirl
BRONZE
Watched two games this weekend. One game all the players were required to have their masks on but did not have to have them over their nose/mouth (I really do not understand this logic at all). The other game; one team wore their masks on the field while the other did not. It’s really all over the place.
I’m sure someone will call me a sheep, but I’m not going to complain about any mask rules. Just wear the thing and stop complaining. It’s not going to harm you. Find something else to rebel and complain over. The kids are playing soccer-that’s all that matters.
I’m sure someone will call me a sheep, but I’m not going to complain about any mask rules. Just wear the thing and stop complaining. It’s not going to harm you. Find something else to rebel and complain over. The kids are playing soccer-that’s all that matters.
No, you read the part about why they are even more important for indoor sports and ignore all the rest. The word “all” means “all”. It does not mean “all indoor but not outdoor because I want ‘all’ to exclude outdoor.”. Golf is never played indoors, and tennis almost never is, and it never is by kids. There would be no need to make an exception for golf or tennis if they were only talking about all (but not all, just all indoor) sports. I can’t help someone who intentionally refuses to understand words and experts. But I can explain why Norcal is following the American Association of Pediatrics’ advice, because they recognize what the word “all” means. But if it makes yourself feel better to ignore the recommendation of the foremost experts on this subject in the entire U.S. by intentionally misreading what words mean, I am not surprised. We’ve all seen more than a year of Karens whining about masks, although they have yet to kill anyone. Go ahead and continue living in fear of masks all you want.
The long and the short of it is that the AAP recommends wearing masks playing soccer right now. Period. You don’t want to, which put you in the same bucket with anti-vaxxers and Karens refusing to wear masks, denying the best advice of the foremost experts. Just accept that the AAP believes your behavior risks getting even more people killed, and you’re ok with more dead people because that’s preferable compared to the slight inconvenience over the next few weeks.
Norcal has about as much power in this as they had when they insisted on 8 year old kids heading the ball. They had laws of the game on their side, but still lost. Turns out laws of the game don’t hold up well in court.
Eventually, if CDPH or SCC decides to push the issue, norcal will lose. They don’t even need to lose on the merits. If the county and city start yanking permits, your kid and my kid do not get to play.
Maybe, they meant this:
“When should face masks be worn?
Face masks have been shown to decrease transmission rates of SARS-CoV-2, including in the context of indoor sports. Athletes should be encouraged to wear face masks at all times (ie, group training, competition, and on the sidelines) during activities that pose a high risk of transmission, Individual sports performed outside, such as golf and singles tennis, are lower risk for transmission of SARS-CoV-2, and a face mask may not be necessary for these activities if the athletes are appropriately distanced. Face masks have been shown to be well tolerated by the majority of individuals who wear them for exercise, but we acknowledge that the mask may need to be removed under certain circumstances.
Face masks should not be worn for competitive cheerleading (tumbling/stunting/flying) and gymnastics (while on the different apparatuses) because of the theoretical risk that the mask may get caught on objects and become a choking hazard or accidently impair vision. During wrestling contact, a face mask could become a choking hazard and is discouraged unless an adult coach or official is closely monitoring for safety purposes. Individuals who swim/dive/participate in water sports should not wear a face mask while they are in the water, because a wet face mask may be more difficult to breathe through. Any face mask that becomes saturated with sweat should be changed immediately.
Athletes should always wear a face mask between practice drills, on the sidelines, arriving at or departing from the playing facility, in a locker room, while not on the playing field, and during shared transportation to/from an event. It is important that the face mask fits the athlete well and is worn over the nose and below the chin. If the face mask is removed for a break, the athlete should remain at least 6 feet away from all other individuals. Face masksshould be worn by coaches, officials, spectators, and volunteers at all times. Coaches and other club/school officials should monitor proper use and encourage all athletes to have a properly worn face mask in place in accordance with the above guidance.
Indoor sports have a higher rate of transmission of SARS-CoV-2 when compared with outdoor, and certain sports (eg. ice hockey and wrestling) carry higher relative risk. The risks and benefits of indoor sports, in addition to the current community prevalence of COVID-19, should be carefully considered when making decisions about continuing or resuming indoor sports. Proper use of a face mask for all indoor sports training and competition (except in the examples noted above) is strongly recommended, because it has been associated with a decreased risk of SARS-CoV-2 transmission, equivalent to outdoor sport transmission rates.
Special considerations may be appropriate when there is an increased risk of heat-related illness. Individuals younger than 2 years old should not wear a face mask. Younger athletes may find wearing a face mask challenging and may need to be reminded and/or assisted by parents/coaches. People should be reminded not to touch the front of the face mask and remove it from the straps whenever possible. When using cloth face coverings, they should be routinely washed daily in hot water and not reused until cleaned.”
So, AAP says always for indoor sport, and whenever not on the field for outdoor. I think CDPH got it wrong, but we should follow the rules so we don’t risk losing fields.
I already discussed this. You can deemphasize as much as you want the discussions of outdoor sports, the word “all” and the fact that they make an exception for two individual sports because those are low risk, but not team sports like soccer.
Just accept that the AAP, the foremost experts on this issue, want your kid to wear a mask playing soccer for now, but you’ve decided that enough people haven’t died, so more people need to because the slight inconvenience of wearing a mask during soccer for a few weeks is too much for you. If they were making an exception for outdoor team sports, they wouldn’t be making an exception for individual sports that do not involve any close contact whatsoever. Again, I can’t make you understand something you refuse to understand.
The CDPH guidelines do NOT require mask. The counties, along with NorCal, decided to follow the guidelines AS IS. Why do you keep pushing mask use? Why does it bother you so much that my kid doesn't wear a mask? Have your kid wear it and you'll be fine. IF NorCal, SCC, or CDPH update their guidelines and require mask, then our kids will wear it. We are arguing nonsense here.
The sheeples kids won't get to play.
If you cost us our permits, you won't have much either.
You and the sheeple will both be stuck with once a week illegal scrimmages, hoping some nosy neighbor doesn't call the city to shut it down.
For that matter, do you want them to end the county border restriction? Do you think that will happen if most teams are ignoring the mask rule?