CA youth sports

Do you honestly think March Madness with full stadiums and no masks is a good idea this year?

If the answer is no, then we agree that it is not time for “normal“. We are, instead, discussing what kind of abnormal is appropriate.

“Learning to live with it“ needs to involve some learning. Keep the smart rules, like masks and indoor dining closures. Lose the dumb rules, like closing outdoor recreation opportunities. It does not mean “stubbornly pretend nothing is wrong”.
Depends which normal you are coming from.

Have you maintained your normal job and income?

If the answer is yes, then when do you suggest is the right "normal" time for those whose jobs and income have been devastated by govt mandate since March?
 
Yet another Grace assertion that pretends to disprove peer reviewed epidemiology studies?

You write well, but you’re just wrong. People with actual training have studied this, and they disagree.
Have you read any peer reviewed studies from Child Psychologist or Economists with actual training and have studied this?
 
Should be, but isn't. Our contact tracing stinks.

Honestly, why are you worried about pro sports when schools are still closed?
I agree about the lack of contact tracing, but this is only part of what should be considered. There is a mountain of evidence that outside training - even in close proximity - is low risk. If it were high risk or even medium risk, we would have seen many, many outbreaks. Simply because we can't 100% determine whether a case came from close proximity, outdoor sports doesn't mean we shouldn't allow it, but this is the myopic view that CA is taking. What also needs to be considered are the following questions.

1) What other activities will children participate in if we don't allow outside sports activities?
2) What is the benefit to children by participating in these activities and what is the risk in not allowing these activities?

If children participate in higher-risk activities - going to other friends' houses or sitting/walking around outside in close proximity and talking - the "net" transmission risk is actually higher. That doesn't even consider the inarguable psychological benefits that exist from participation.

I hate to repeat myself, but the process where multiple clubs are now crammed into one private facility after not being allowed on county/city owned fields is not only counter-productive in terms of containing the virus, it is irrationality that rises to a legitimate symptom of mental illness.
 
My player returned from his scrimmage game with a smile and some video of a nice goal so good for those that can find a way.

I haven't been to any of the games in person for a long time but it's always nice to see the videos and him happy and looking forward to the president days tournaments out of state. Long drive for them but they love road trips so play on and enjoy life.
As gross as it is, too many would say you are selfish and willfully harming your fellow citizens - so here we are.
 
still safer in your own car and driving to Florida for Christmas and avoiding packed airports.

People are lazy. they dont want to drive. It will work.
Air travel has been a pleasure during Covid, particularly on Delta where they have kept the middle seat open. Thank you to everyone that is afraid to fly for making air travel so much more easy and pleasurable for the rest of us.
 
As gross as it is, too many would say you are selfish and willfully harming your fellow citizens - so here we are.
The people who say stuff like that are just as selfish and willfully harming of others. They just want others to sacrifice for the sake of keeping them safe, particularly if they still have jobs and are working away from home. What's worse it they are taking it out on kids for their own selfish ends.
 
Let’s get back to soccer. There were some great games played this weekend.
USL is on fire bro!!!! Kids all over Socal doing USL. I heard some kids playing for the first time since Nov AZ. I also heard from a pal that it took, like forever to drive on frwy. He told me it felt like normal again. TY USL :)
 
Well color me gross too. Watched DD play a scrimmage today, nothing formal, just a big group of friends playing. We stood apart on the side lines, and some wore masks. It was actually pretty nice!
Either you misread or I worded it poorly, I'm thinking the latter. I was on the sidelines this weekend, and with referees no less, it was great for all! More to come.
 
Well color me gross too. Watched DD play a scrimmage today, nothing formal, just a big group of friends playing. We stood apart on the side lines, and some wore masks. It was actually pretty nice!
I've gotta add my little girl's soccer story. Friday night, she is freaking out in regards to ECNL tryouts the next day. We calmed her down and told her to treat is an all start tryout and that she still has a spot on her current team. She did very well and more than anything else, I was a very proud dad when she told me after the tryouts that she can do better. She gets home and pulls out the ladder and a soccer ball and started working on her footwork after a very tiring 2 hour ECNL tryout. To see kids go from fear to " I can do better" is such a great lesson in life.
 
Should be, but isn't. Our contact tracing stinks.

Honestly, why are you worried about pro sports when schools are still closed?
I mentioned it because you said outdoor sports should be open and pro stadiums should be closed. I'm just responding to you and questioning why either should be completely closed at this point. Our public schools continue to be closed for one reason and one reason only.....a powerful teacher's union and a governor that will not stand up to them. Plain and simple.
 
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