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Grace T. said:
There’s a monkey wrench about to be thrown in all this. The new cdc guidelines on schools have been leaked. They specifically mention sports and extracurriculars. Depending on how restrictive the new tier systems are it may give California cover to keep doing what it’s doing. Don’t want to go into politics so I posted the article in off topic.
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Funny not so funny thing about that is I mentioned a monkey wrench yesterday in one of my posts thinking about the "comprise" yesterday not even knowing about the leaks or this cdc guidance.

Governor has talked about football and wanted to find a path for baseball but seem to be down on the risk of soccer with some of his statements. If the tiers are still applied to schools and conditional on sports Athletics equally that's going to be a bummer for public school sports programs going forward and could delay things even more.

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Biden administration releases school reopening guidance with color-coded zones

CDC director says guidance is "free from political meddling."
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lafalafa said:
Governor has talked about football and wanted to find a path for baseball but seem to be down on the risk of soccer with some of his statements. If the tiers are still applied to schools and conditional on sports Athletics equally that's going to be a bummer for public school sports programs going forward and could delay things even more.

www.cbsnews.com

Biden administration releases school reopening guidance with color-coded zones

CDC director says guidance is "free from political meddling."
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
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I keep hearing that the UK variant is going to be the predominant strain and could grow significantly in April. What does this do to the openning? Is it just fluff and fear from the media or is this really something to be concerned about.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
I keep hearing that the UK variant is going to be the predominant strain and could grow significantly in April. What does this do to the openning? Is it just fluff and fear from the media or is this really something to be concerned about.
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Dad4 had a good breakdown of the math in the bad news thread. It basically depends how bad of an outbreak you’ve had previously and how quick they roll out the vaccine. They are in a race now in some areas to vaccinate v a third wave. The wave probably won’t be as bad as winter and the ifr will be much lower because of the elderly. But as long as things are tied to cases (as in California and as the new cdc guidelines for schools seem to be headed) it means no return to normal for months maybe even several years to come

The real bad news is we have some strains like the South Africa variant which prior covid or vaccination provide only minimal protection against.
 
Hmm.. my understanding is at the CDC blue/lowest tier (which basically corresponds the California’s red tier) they are to maintain 6feet distance whenever possible, but it isn’t requires. Then again maybe I’m just an optimist.
 

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Grace T. said:
Well they've done it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but contact sports are banned even on the blue tier. Page `17

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Depends on what they mean by “the greatest extent possible” for keeping 6 feet apart.

It isn’t absolute. CDC yellow says “required”. Blue says “to the extent possible”. If they both meant required, they would both use the same language.

Means the CDC is saying no contact sports until under 1.4 cases per 100K per day. And no credit for extra testing. Ugh. But it’s not a ban.

Annoying that it draws no distinction between indoor and outdoor contact sports. CA guidelines are better in that respect.

If CA tightens to match CDC, I’ll start tracking the time until we hit 1.4. :(
 
dad4 said:
Depends on what they mean by “the greatest extent possible” for keeping 6 feet apart.

It isn’t absolute. CDC yellow says “required”. Blue says “to the extent possible”. If they both meant required, they would both use the same language.

Means the CDC is saying no contact sports until under 1.4 cases per 100K per day. And no credit for extra testing. Ugh. But it’s not a ban.

Annoying that it draws no distinction between indoor and outdoor contact sports. CA guidelines are better in that respect.

If CA tightens to match CDC, I’ll start tracking the time until we hit 1.4. :(
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Well the other concerning thing is it’s the “best” tier. Like California there is no return to normal
 
CDC is cases per week. Ours is cases per day.

To put ours in cases per week,

CAyellow < 7 < CAorange < 28 < CAred < 49 < CApurple

CDC blue < 10 < CDCyellow < 50 < CDCorange < 100 < CDCred

So, the CDC blue means CA yellow. this is the one where cdc recommends play.

CDC yellow means CA orange or red.
CDC orange means CA purple.
CDC red means deep within CA purple

We are all in CDC red. Mid to late April for CDC yellow.
 
Grace T. said:
Well the other concerning thing is it’s the “best” tier. Like California there is no return to normal
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Who said we will return to normal?

I just want my kids to be able to go to schools and play with their friends. If the CDC guidelines had put outdoor sports in yellow where they belong, I’d be cheering.
 
dad4 said:
CDC is cases per week. Ours is cases per day.

To put ours in cases per week,

CAyellow < 7 < CAorange < 28 < CAred < 49 < CApurple

CDC blue < 10 < CDCyellow < 50 < CDCorange < 100 < CDCred

So, the CDC blue means CA yellow. this is the one where cdc recommends play.

CDC yellow means CA orange or red.
CDC orange means CA purple.
CDC red means deep within CA purple

We are all in CDC red. Mid to late April for CDC yellow.
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dad4 said:
Who said we will return to normal?

I just want my kids to be able to go to schools and play with their friends. If the CDC guidelines had put outdoor sports in yellow where they belong, I’d be cheering.
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1. All the elderly will be vaccinated in 2 months. Everyone else adult that wants it by summer. If not now, when normal?
2. Agree on the yellow. If we get a third spring wave April Is unrealistic. We don’t know enough about the variants and spring seasonal effects to be sure but last year and your own math suggest it’s possible
3. None of this is pro science.
 
If CDPH switchs to the CDC guidance for school based athletics not sure we're any closer to playing in time for spring comps if it's still county based.

In the long run perhaps but monkey wrenches seem to come up in some form or another from the state.

However, they save face by saying we've "compromised" and we're just following the CDC guidance.. blah blah
 
lafalafa said:
If CDPH switchs to the CDC guidance for school based athletics not sure we're any closer to playing in time for spring comps if it's still county based.

In the long run perhaps but monkey wrenches seem to come up in some form or another from the state.

However, they save face by saying we've "compromised" and we're just following the CDC guidance.. blah blah
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I think this is the key- if CDPH pivots to these new guidelines, well... that will suck and will probably have very little support.
 
lafalafa said:
If CDPH switchs to the CDC guidance for school based athletics not sure we're any closer to playing in time for spring comps if it's still county based.

In the long run perhaps but monkey wrenches seem to come up in some form or another from the state.

However, they save face by saying we've "compromised" and we're just following the CDC guidance.. blah blah
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It's this exactly. Since, as Dad points out, the CDC numbers are calculated weekly while ours our daily, it gives him the excuse to say "see I"ve compromised....I'm not doing the more harsh CDC guidelines"
 
From what I'm reading in the commentary on this, the CDC guidelines would require the cancelling of contact sports being played in some 2700 out of the 2800 US counties where contact sports are being played right now. The sports recommendations are a huge step backwards from where the US is right now.
 
Came from surf sports park today for a lacrosse tourney. It was scheduled for Tucson, then Gallaway Downs, then last monday we get a blast that "the camp" will be in Del Mar. They called it a camp and scores are not being posted on Tourney Machine or anywhere else. Parents were kept in the lot. They took down the screens so we could watch through the chain link fence - same as the last AZ tourneys we played. The girls played teams from seattle and Northern California. Back tomorrow for more.

Anyways, our games were back to back, done at 10. As we were leaving I noticed several close to the el camino real exit were being filled with soccer games with parents on the field. It was business as usual except they did nor charge for parking, but the line to get in was still back to el camino.
 
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