Bad News Thread

Fact - every year more deaths are recorded in the months of December, January, and February than any other time of the year.

Fact - In 2018, the US had about 2.84 million deaths

Fact - Every year, total deaths go up by 50k to 60k people, i.e. projected total for 2020 before CoVid was 2.95 million

Fact - In 2020, roughly 3.10 million passed.

Fact - Excess deaths are only 150,000. One could say that is all Covid, others could argue some of those deaths can be suicide, depression and other illness.

So, in summary, excess deaths are half of what you are really being told. All of this data can be found on the CDC website. Nothing here is from fake news sources.

Carry on!

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
ourworldindata.org

Deaths per year

Future projections are based on the UN's medium-fertility scenario.
ourworldindata.org ourworldindata.org
 
Watch various tax increases and fee increases as states, counties and municipalities try to fix the big hole in their budgets due to the shutdowns.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Businesses struggling with pandemic could be on hook for $500M tax increase

Illinois businesses hit by losses because of government COVID-19 restrictions could collectively be on the hook for half-a-billion dollars in tax liabilities if Gov. J.B. Pritzker gets his way. There’s growing opposition.
www.washingtonexaminer.com www.washingtonexaminer.com
 
Desert Hound said:
I thought they were quarantined already (as in locked up). Or did they sneak out and get some wings at a nearby tavern?

www.folkspaper.com

Folkspaper - Two Gorillas at the San Diego Safari Park Have Tested Positive for COVID-19, First Case Among Great Apes

Two gorillas at a zoo in California have tested positive for COVID-19, in what is believed to be the first known cases of the virus among great apes in the United States and possibly the rest of ...
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Did they draw straws to determine which guy had to stick the q-tip up the gorilla's nose?
 
Desert Hound said:
Watch various tax increases and fee increases as states, counties and municipalities try to fix the big hole in their budgets due to the shutdowns.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Businesses struggling with pandemic could be on hook for $500M tax increase

Illinois businesses hit by losses because of government COVID-19 restrictions could collectively be on the hook for half-a-billion dollars in tax liabilities if Gov. J.B. Pritzker gets his way. There’s growing opposition.
www.washingtonexaminer.com www.washingtonexaminer.com
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It is amazing. When people don’t earn enough money to pay for the things they want they cut back. Whether it is they lose their home or can’t afford to eat out or whatever it is. Our government today never cuts back on any program. Everything they do is thought of as must haves. I heard the other day California has unfunded liabilities in the form of pension promises in the trillions. This state is basically bankrupt but will not cut anything. Let’s stop building the speed train for our first cut. I bet it wouldn’t be hard for anyone with common sense to cut billions from this states budget. The tax and spending happening in this state is unsustainable. I am not sure how long the state government can keep this shell game going.
 
The Ventura County vaccine website has crashed because there's no verification process for an approved profession to receive the vaccine. So many people who shouldn't be registered have registered it's unlikely that old people will be able to get on again until February-March. So my Dad is registered to receive it next week (as an active physician) but my mom (who let her license expired) will likely now need to wait for months. Once again, nice job California!
 
Grace T. said:
The Ventura County vaccine website has crashed because there's no verification process for an approved profession to receive the vaccine. So many people who shouldn't be registered have registered it's unlikely that old people will be able to get on again until February-March. So my Dad is registered to receive it next week (as an active physician) but my mom (who let her license expired) will likely now need to wait for months. Once again, nice job California!
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Send them to San Diego. We have a senior care facility advertising advanced vaccine availability for new residents and a mass vaccination site open for all associated with health care (volunteers included).
 
MARsSPEED said:
Fact - every year more deaths are recorded in the months of December, January, and February than any other time of the year.

Fact - In 2018, the US had about 2.84 million deaths

Fact - Every year, total deaths go up by 50k to 60k people, i.e. projected total for 2020 before CoVid was 2.95 million

Fact - In 2020, roughly 3.10 million passed.

Fact - Excess deaths are only 150,000. One could say that is all Covid, others could argue some of those deaths can be suicide, depression and other illness.

So, in summary, excess deaths are half of what you are really being told. All of this data can be found on the CDC website. Nothing here is from fake news sources.

Carry on!

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
ourworldindata.org

Deaths per year

Future projections are based on the UN's medium-fertility scenario.
ourworldindata.org ourworldindata.org
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2019 was roughly 2.94m
 
Glad to see that they are finally listening to me ;).

"The state is transforming baseball stadiums, fairgrounds and even a Disneyland Resort parking lot into mass vaccination sites."

While some are reluctant, we need to take advantage of those folks who want the vaccine ASAP. Don't worry so much about upfront administration/forms/sign ups. Bring your driver's license for proof of age and insurance card if you have one and line up. Give the vaccine until you run out. Give those who waited and didn't get a shot a higher priority for the next round. I have no first-hand knowledge, but the feeling I get is that too much time is being spent trying to organize the process. Put the inconvenience on people who want the vaccine. It's the government and it's a huge undertaking. People will understand and expect it.

www.sfgate.com

California's vaccine rate ranks 42nd in the US

California ranks 42nd in terms of its rate of vaccine distribution.
www.sfgate.com www.sfgate.com
 
"A new peer-reviewed study from the American Academy of Pediatrics found that in-school transmission of COVID-19 is "extremely rare."

In a collaborative study between Duke University and the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, researchers discovered that among 11 school districts with nearly 100,000 staff and students, there were no instances of children passing the coronavirus to adults during in-person instruction. Researchers found just 32 cases of either kid-to-kid or adult-to-adult coronavirus transmission over nine weeks."

freebeacon.com

New Study Finds COVID Transmission in Schools Is 'Extremely Rare'

A new peer-reviewed study from the American Academy of Pediatrics found that in-school transmission of the coronavirus is "extremely rare."
freebeacon.com freebeacon.com
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Grace T. said:
It amazes me that people just got through getting livid about trump trying to subvert the constitution by overturning his election and his supporters trying to seize the capitol and you want to go around overturning the constitution (by suspending the first amendment rights to speech and assemble, not to mention the fourth, and the individual rights of the states) chinese style to get authoritarian lockdown. It is pretty self evident the far left is totalitarian
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Whoa...my response was not even political. My point was that lockdown works if you actually lockdown. In China, all was back to normal after 3 months of strict lockdown. In CA, we just have restrictions, not a lockdown which affects school children and small businesses the most. If it doesnt work, then we should just say that restrictions dont work and not claim that we had a lockdown.
 
blam said:
Whoa...my response was not even political. My point was that lockdown works if you actually lockdown. In China, all was back to normal after 3 months of strict lockdown. In CA, we just have restrictions, not a lockdown which affects school children and small businesses the most. If it doesnt work, then we should just say that restrictions dont work and not claim that we had a lockdown.
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That's fine but then we are back to nothing really works, at least given that we are: a) not prepare to suspend the constitution, or b) not an island that was lucky enough to catch it early, close our borders and keep it out.
 
blam said:
Whoa...my response was not even political. My point was that lockdown works if you actually lockdown. In China, all was back to normal after 3 months of strict lockdown. In CA, we just have restrictions, not a lockdown which affects school children and small businesses the most. If it doesnt work, then we should just say that restrictions dont work and not claim that we had a lockdown.
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Ummm...I work with a lot of people in China and one of my factories was just closed for a week due to Covid and another (in a different region) spoke of new restrictions.

Although other areas seem to be operating as normal.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Ummm...I work with a lot of people in China and one of my factories was just closed for a week due to Covid and another (in a different region) spoke of new restrictions.

Although other areas seem to be operating as normal.
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Hey Kicker, isn't China already rolling out it's vaccine (though supposedly it's only 50% effective)?
 
Grace T. said:
That's fine but then we are back to nothing really works, at least given that we are: a) not prepare to suspend the constitution, or b) not an island that was lucky enough to catch it early, close our borders and keep it out.
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None of this is unconstitutional.

Government can take away your free speech or your guns or hold you down and it can be constitutional.

Government can exercise that and infringed directly on your right because the constitution also gave the government the duty to protect its citizens.

What you have is a contradiction in the law. you have a right, the government also has a constitutional duty and it can only execute that duty if it infringes on your right. Who wins?

If you challenge that you go to the Supreme Court where the justices will apply different strunity levels depending on what is being challenged. If the government can show that it did that and infringed on your right but it is narrowly tailored, it explored other means etc etc. The court will almost always then rule for the government.
 
blam said:
Whoa...my response was not even political. My point was that lockdown works if you actually lockdown. In China, all was back to normal after 3 months of strict lockdown. In CA, we just have restrictions, not a lockdown which affects school children and small businesses the most. If it doesnt work, then we should just say that restrictions dont work and not claim that we had a lockdown.
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Well put.
 
Grace T. said:
That's fine but then we are back to nothing really works, at least given that we are: a) not prepare to suspend the constitution, or b) not an island that was lucky enough to catch it early, close our borders and keep it out.
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A. The Constitution contains nothing that would preclude government from implementing a lockdown to protect the citizenry due to health reasons i.e. a pandemic. And B is laughable coming from a trump apologist.
 
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