Bad News Thread

Grace T. said:
This is beyond outrageous. 75+ year olds (the group mostly likely to die of COVID) likely don't get vaccinated until mid march at least according to VC health authorities. Meanwhile doctors in private offices, hotel workers, dentists, and DAs, even if young and healthy, get vaccinated??? California is seriously run by morons. No wonder the AMA was lobbying Newsom at French laundry.

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County says it’s provided 13,000 vaccines in 3 weeks

Nearly 13,000 of the 24,000 round-one doses of COVID-19 vaccine that Ventura County had received as of Tuesday have been injected, Public Health Officer Dr. Robert Levin said. Speaking at a county Board of Supervisors’ meeting Jan. 6, Levin said all workers in the county’s eight hospitals who...
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And that sums up gov in a nutshell.

It is why I am adamantly opposed to a government run health care system for all.
 
Kicker4Life said:
60+ represents 74.5% of California’s mortality and that number continues to climb (it was 71% back in October)....The narrative has been, people are dying (que the “how many people have to die so Sally can play soccer” argument)...so why not target that category of the population to vaccinate? Same reasonI question why they didn’t have a proactive plan to increase ICU capacity while they are warning everyone a Winter surge is coming since July?

I’m open to hearing some valid reasons.
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They should absolutely be prioritizing the real at risk group. Data wise there is no good reason not to.

Vaccinate this age group and the vast majority of deaths associated with Covid goes away.
 
Just speculation on my part, but if the death rate remains the same (and it will if they really wait until March to start vaccinated 75+ year olds), and if the pace of vaccinations continues the same in California, we won't be out of purple in most of SoCal til march so it probably means (if everything else remains the same), we aren't playing until summer at the absolute earliest. Also, with teachers then not scheduled until April, the entire school year is a bust for those still on remote. Again, if everything remains unchanged.
 
Kicker4Life said:
60+ represents 74.5% of California’s mortality and that number continues to climb (it was 71% back in October)....The narrative has been, people are dying (que the “how many people have to die so Sally can play soccer” argument)...so why not target that category of the population to vaccinate? Same reasonI question why they didn’t have a proactive plan to increase ICU capacity while they are warning everyone a Winter surge is coming since July?

I’m open to hearing some valid reasons.
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They don't lack mattresses. They lack nurses.

Increasing ICU nurse capacity is difficult and slow. You have to train people.
 
dad4 said:
They don't lack mattresses. They lack nurses.

Increasing ICU nurse capacity is difficult and slow. You have to train people.
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They have had 9 months to train people. True, it's impossible to get brand new doctors and brand new nurses in that time so there would still be a shortage but there's plenty of stuff they could have done to aleviate the situation if it's such an emergency. They didn't. Too afraid of the optics of empty tent hospitals.
 
Grace T. said:
They have had 9 months to train people. True, it's impossible to get brand new doctors and brand new nurses in that time so there would still be a shortage but there's plenty of stuff they could have done to aleviate the situation if it's such an emergency. They didn't. Too afraid of the optics of empty tent hospitals.
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Coocoo.
 
dad4 said:
They don't lack mattresses. They lack nurses.

Increasing ICU nurse capacity is difficult and slow. You have to train people.
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Ummmmm yes, I know. Would kinda makes sense that Staffing would be a KEY part of the planning process. They are just now launching a recruiting campaign to hire more nurses.....over 2 months AFTER the surge started 5+ months AFTER they’ve been warning the public about it. Building capacity is the easy part. They showed that in March.
 
Grace T. said:
They have had 9 months to train people. True, it's impossible to get brand new doctors and brand new nurses in that time so there would still be a shortage but there's plenty of stuff they could have done to aleviate the situation if it's such an emergency. They didn't. Too afraid of the optics of empty tent hospitals.
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Train new nurses? You must be kidding.

We can't even do a decent vaccine rollout. Or manufacture cheap blown plastic masks.

Lucky we aren't in a war. Our soldiers would be tripping all over the place because we forgot how to make shoelaces.
 
Grace T. said:
Reports are circulating Biden is going to order the release of all the stockpile of vaccine (instead of holding back second doses) and revise guidelines overturning the NY/CA type rules prohibiting giving vaccines out of order. If so Mr. President-Elect I heartily approve.
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Let's get this show on the road.
 
Ny has had to throw away vaccine doses. In California, the by job system has led to several people being vaccinated that shouldn't have been that I personally know of including: a) a social worker working from home virtually (does not make house calls), b) 2 telemarketers working from home in their 30s, and c) a small business owner in her 40s whos business is closed. Just do it by age....vaccinate as many people as you can.

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Cuomo Widens Eligibility After Vaccine Goes Unused or Is Even Thrown Out (Published 2021)

Three million more people will be permitted to schedule vaccinations, including those 75 and older, as the campaign in New York gets off to a dispiriting start.
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Grace T. said:
Reports are circulating Biden is going to order the release of all the stockpile of vaccine (instead of holding back second doses) and revise guidelines overturning the NY/CA type rules prohibiting giving vaccines out of order. If so Mr. President-Elect I heartily approve.
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Is that against Fauci’s recommendation?
 
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