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@MacDre - you are correct that in countries that have developed womens professional leagues (e.g. Europe, Asia) elite female players are already identified by 15 and playing professionally by 16 and are NOT paying to play. The NWSL doesn't let players play until they are 18 and that's a bit late to get started imo. An elite 18 female yo German player for example has already played at least 3 years with older, experienced players and has had professional coaching.

I hate to see posters here mock players who want to play professionally.
After all, soccer is a sport. Why can't players get a degree after they finish playing professionally? I know I would hire someone with that kind of experience over an 21 year old grad with a doctored up resume with volunteering and unpaid summer internships. Life is about doing what you enjoy even if it doesn't pay a lot. Most of us will work until 65. Is starting at 30 as opposed to early 20's so bad? A lot of pro players are also doing their degrees online while playing - no it's not the fun US college experience, but being on a good pro team is a fun experience too.
I think UCSD, USD, & San Diego State are all options for kids at Club Tijuana once Liga MX opens up to foreigners. So the girls can have language immersion, a pro career, and can go to college while living in sunny San Diego/TJ.

Those that prefer the Texas border can play for Tigres or the Rayados. Young Players can attend Tec de Monterrey or go to a Texas University.
 
I think UCSD, USD, & San Diego State are all options for kids at Club Tijuana once Liga MX opens up to foreigners. So the girls can have language immersion, a pro career, and can go to college while living in sunny San Diego/TJ.

Those that prefer the Texas border can play for Tigres or the Rayados. Young Players can attend Tec de Monterrey or go to a Texas University.
Mesa College is good option as well.
 
I agree but the MLS seems to think there are problems with college soccer. I think if things are bad on the men’s side, then surely things are worse on the women’s side. I’m at a loss as to how anyone can possibly suggest that women have a superior environment to men anywhere in our society whether it be soccer, Silicon Valley, or Wall Street because women ALWAYS “get the short end of the stick.”

I think you have to embrace the MLS message if you want to see development in college soccer. Admitting that there is a problem with the system is the first step to fixing the problem.

MLS is a joke. It has failed.
 
Dre, Lastman and his side kick monitor the Idiots on here and are here to make sure were silence. Here's a fact Dre. My dd is 17 almost. She has been in youth soccer since she was 6. She was recruited by all the greats in socal before the job title of Director of Girls Coaching (Girls DOC)) was invented for girls in the failed GDA. It was also a position top male coaches lobbed for and boy did they. I was in the middle of two crazy folks fighting for power and a raise. The Doc was the man and he had something people wanted. Can you guess Dre? He the Doc took over soccer in socal and got all the power. Lastman calls me an idiot but I'm the one who came on here saying the GDA ((run by men and dad)) will be toast and it's boat ride to Mr Jones Island with so much Kool Aid you will never be thirsty again in the "Pay me so you can Play League." It was an easy call. You cant treat girls like this and be successful. I would think, "Crush, you nailed it" would be in the works after Lastman ignored me until last nights, "Please stop Idiot, Please stop!!!!" No, all I get is I'm an idiot. Maybe he will thank me later? For the record, the sh*t my dd went through was evil. You can;t treat a girl(s) and her dreams like trash all because she was bad for business because she wanted to play public high school soccer.
Oh my goodness. Sitting by a fire pit in Indian Wells listening to your yelps of poor us. Earn it! That’s it!
 
So moving forward as we see Europe and Mexico develop their leagues, do we continue with a flawed college system that was only successful because women in other places around the world didn’t have access to training and the large amount of female players here?

I also think 18-22 is too late for players that want to go pro. My kids pediatrician and club are telling her 15-16 years old is when she should debut professionally. I see FIFA implementing a pilot program in Mexico that they plan to eventually take to other less developed Federations. I see folks here focused on past successes while ignoring the future.

I guess the reason that I am making a big fuss is because I think the system is flawed and The Jeweler is being used as a scapegoat. Wouldn’t the ladies also benefit from a 2 semester college system?
Sorry. Your comparing two things. Stop it. Fine if you want your DD to play non-college. Send her off to Europe.
 
MLS is a joke. It has failed.

I disagree. When you consider how many teams/divisions/leagues, etc., etc. there are and the overall poor quality of soccer found here in the U.S., and the MLS has still managed to make mens soccer a fairly profitable venture, I would say that they have actually been pretty successful. As a league, they have no intention, despite what they may state, to compete with the top leagues or implement any type of pro/rel system. They just want a return on their investment. It's a business to them here. In other places, it is a passion (and quite profitable for some).
 
I disagree. When you consider how many teams/divisions/leagues, etc., etc. there are and the overall poor quality of soccer found here in the U.S., and the MLS has still managed to make mens soccer a fairly profitable venture, I would say that they have actually been pretty successful. As a league, they have no intention, despite what they may state, to compete with the top leagues or implement any type of pro/rel system. They just want a return on their investment. It's a business to them here. In other places, it is a passion (and quite profitable for some).
Your talking finances. I’m not. I’m also responding accordingly to the previous poster which will alter our convo.
 
I agree with almost everything you have written, but you argument is separate and distinct from what @LASTMAN14 and @sdb are arguing.

It seems there are some that think D1 college soccer is similar to the 4H club-a place where young folks get mentored, supported, and encouraged to pursue their goals. I disagree.

The last 2 videos that I posted is clear objective proof that college soccer does not make better soccer players. Folks like Macario don’t improve from college soccer. Rather, she is getting a degree from a great school for financial security. If we believe the numbers posted by MLS, it can be argued college soccer is counterproductive because of the schedule and high risk of injuries.

If we believe the young man in the video about how it is essential to listen to your coach tell you to do “dumb shit”, or you will not play it becomes very easy to understand how the Jeweler is bumping heads with young ladies that have an unrealistic goal of development on a P5 D1 soccer team.
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4H. Hmm. Do what you will.
 
Oh my goodness. Sitting by a fire pit in Indian Wells listening to your yelps of poor us. Earn it! That’s it!
Are you still hearing my voice at night bro? I'm sorry you hear me loud & clear and you think of me and Dre late at night on your vacation in Indian Wells. I hope your golfing too. Every time you use your driver, think of me, The Crush and crush the hell out of the ball for me. When you putt, think about how my dd was treated by assholes. After my three year investigation, she is not the only one who was lied to. It's interesting that you and EOTL make fun of my dd. BTW, she earn everything she got from the Doc who had the pick back in September 2017. I think if she was able to to get the recruits phone number to the head master at the US Soccer Training Center, then she would have earned it. I'm proud of her for standing up to those who lie, cheat, fat shame, yell, scream, manipulate and behave very, very naughty around young teenage girls. That is 100% why the GDA failed. GDA got what they earned and please, do not blame it on Rona. That league's leadership was full of liars and cheaters. Do you not see that by now? I'm looking pass 2020 now.

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Your talking finances. I’m not. I’m also responding accordingly to the previous poster which will alter our convo.

Got it. ...and I don't actually disagree. I was being a little tongue and cheeky. If you review 10 years or so of my posts, I have never been a believer in the MLS model at any level. They are their own worst enemy so I throw in a cheap shot when I can. Sometimes sarcastic and sometimes not.
 
So, if MLS is a joke and the MLS thinks college is a joke, what can be deduced from this?
Let's see when Lastman wakes up. He was tripping out late last night with me and you Dre. Listening to my bad yelp reviews over the years in his head. Some think I came to draw attention to myself because I failed to go pro bro. I have some real good meds that keep the voices away for the day Lastman. I was sleeping and dreaming of a day that no one ever cheats again and then I wake up and see Lastman going Indian Wells on me.
 
Sorry. Your comparing two things. Stop it. Fine if you want your DD to play non-college. Send her off to Europe.
I never said I didn’t want my kid to play college. My kid wouldn’t have been identified if we had not shown interest in college. I am saying after doing extensive research, it appears that the college environment is abusive and not beneficial to development more often than not.

So, again it’s my position that development in college is a fallacy with a few possible exceptions. If folks want their kids developed, it would behoove them to stop drinking the Kool-Aide and look elsewhere for that development. Again, you can’t squeeze blood from a turnip.
 
Let's see when Lastman wakes up. He was tripping out late last night with me and you Dre. Listening to my bad yelp reviews over the years in his head. Some think I came to draw attention to myself because I failed to go pro bro. I have some real good meds that keep the voices away for the day Lastman. I was sleeping and dreaming of a day that no one ever cheats again and then I wake up and see Lastman going Indian Wells on me.
Don’t trip LASTMAN is obviously the LASTMAN anyone should take advice from. He has yet to do his homework but wants to apply his limited personal experience to everything soccer; so he’s kinda blind to the truth.
Me, I stay ready. You’d think these dudes would know this by now. Slow learners I guess.
 
Don’t trip LASTMAN is obviously the LASTMAN anyone should take advice from. He has yet to do his homework but wants to apply his limited personal experience to everything soccer; so he’s kinda blind to the truth.
Me, I stay ready. You’d think these dudes would know this by now. Slow learners I guess.
Or they have something to lose and get all mad at me and make fun of my dd and say she needed to earn it back in 2017. She has the hardware and the goals to back it up. She just didnt win favor with the Doc(s) who had the pics. Simple is as simple is.
 
For the folks out there that are interested in objective information as to how to best develop your kids, I’d recommend considering the following articles regarding Liga MX Femenil opening up to foreigners in 2021. Also take note, that the U17’s will be traveling and training with the first team. U17’s will play before the first team similar to how JV plays before varsity in High School competitions. For the younger players that haven’t finished college Club Tijuana, Rayados, and Tigres are the best option in my opinion because they can go to college in San Diego or Texas (or Tec de Monterrey). For those graduating from college or not going to college there are 15 other teams in the interior of Mexico that will be looking for foreign talent.

The articles are in Spanish. If you can’t read Spanish just cut and paste the article in google translate.

 
For the folks out there that are interested in objective information as to how to best develop your kids, I’d recommend considering the following articles regarding Liga MX Femenil opening up to foreigners in 2021. Also take note, that the U17’s will be traveling and training with the first team. U17’s will play before the first team similar to how JV plays before varsity in High School competitions. For the younger players that haven’t finished college Club Tijuana, Rayados, and Tigres are the best option in my opinion because they can go to college in San Diego or Texas (or Tec de Monterrey). For those graduating from college or not going to college there are 15 other teams in the interior of Mexico that will be looking for foreign talent.

The articles are in Spanish. If you can’t read Spanish just cut and paste the article in google translate.

2022 could look promising for anyone who would want to play some pro ball and then take classes at SDSU or Mesa? I used to go down to Baja surfing and taco hunting in the 80s. This one local guy had a taco cart that was out of this world Dre. Hot dogs wrapped with bacon and then killer home made salsa on top. Wash it down with some Corona's and shots and one is in heaven. Wake up early and be first to surf and get all waves to oneself for first hour. He had some pollo that was so juicy your mouth would get all watery before you took your first bite. Carna Asada was insane and just the bomb place to eat. All off a food cart. Dre, How safe is it today and and how much safer will it be in 2022? How many foreigners allowed on each team? Pay? Thanks for the information. When my wife wakes up, I will have her interpret it for me. If I hear you right, a foreign player could play in TJ ((if they can make the squad)) and then go to local college at the same time. It would be super cool if they somehow allowed the player to also play college ball. Or, they can work hard at studies and earn a deal and play ball in college and then go pro in 2026? So many options if one can hang and has the passion to be a pro or college player or both or none at all and just quit because they hate it and or are burned out.
 
2022 could look promising for anyone who would want to play some pro ball and then take classes at SDSU or Mesa? I used to go down to Baja surfing and taco hunting in the 80s. This one local guy had a taco cart that was out of this world Dre. Hot dogs wrapped with bacon and then killer home made salsa on top. Wash it down with some Corona's and shots and one is in heaven. Wake up early and be first to surf and get all waves to oneself for first hour. He had some pollo that was so juicy your mouth would get all watery before you took your first bite. Carna Asada was insane and just the bomb place to eat. All off a food cart. Dre, How safe is it today and and how much safer will it be in 2022? How many foreigners allowed on each team? Pay? Thanks for the information. When my wife wakes up, I will have her interpret it for me. If I hear you right, a foreign player could play in TJ ((if they can make the squad)) and then go to local college at the same time. It would be super cool if they somehow allowed the player to also play college ball. Or, they can work hard at studies and earn a deal and play ball in college and then go pro in 2026? So many options if one can hang and has the passion to be a pro or college player or both or none at all and just quit because they hate it and or are burned out.
TJ is similar to LA or the Bay Area because it can be very safe or very dangerous depending on what part of town you are in. In TJ, if you stay away from drugs and hookers and stick to futbol, food, and museums you do not have anything to worry about regarding safety.

I am not sure how many foreigners will be allowed; maybe 6 including Mexican Americans in that total. Pay should be negotiable as there is no salary cap in Liga MX. However, to date most players have not been paid well but that’ll change with the introduction of foreign talent.

I asked Austin at Cal if it was possible to play college and pro and he told me that there was a girl currently (Dec 2019) on Cal’s team that had played in the Champions League before coming to Cal but I don’t remember her name. I think he also said that the team could only pay for expenses in order to maintain college eligibility. I don’t think you can do both at the same time. But, I also don’t think it matters now that there will be NWSL teams on the West Coast from Oregon down to LA that will potentially play friendlies vs. Xolo’s.
 
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