Cal Berkeley Coach (women) abusive

[EOTL]

I told everyone on here in March to lose weight and eat healthy. I practice what I preach. Fruits, Veggies, water, air, shelter and nuts. Get ready. I dont fat shame anyone, let alone girls. If you are fat EOTL, please lose weight. That's my message to you only. If girls in California are 2021 D1 potential players and have not been allowed to play and want to be impact freshman nest year, then they need to run and run some more and stay in shape.

Fat shaming HS girls now are you? How is what you’re saying not worse than what the Cal coach said? It’s pretty hard to answer that question when the only thing you know is that he told a player she needed to be more fit or leaner in order to play.

You are easily manipulated. You hear the term fat shame and just jump to conclusions even when the only statement identified in the article is that he allegedly told a player she needed to be leaner. The article literally relies on the Fox news (and MSNBC to be fair) tactic of telling listeners what opinion they should have and then letting them make up the facts to support it in their weak-minded brains.

 

[outside!]

I would be curious to know how many commenters have daughters that have played or are playing college soccer.

MacDre wondered how to tell a player she sucks and to kick rocks. The answer is simple, you don't. You communicate that they are not ready for the game by letting them watch from the stands or the bench.

 

[crush]

Fat shaming HS girls now are you? How is what you’re saying not worse than what the Cal coach said? It’s pretty hard to answer that question when the only thing you know is that he told a player she needed to be more fit or leaner in order to play.

You are easily manipulated. You hear the term fat shame and just jump to conclusions even when the only statement identified in the article is that he allegedly told a player she needed to be leaner. The article literally relies on the Fox news (and MSNBC to be fair) tactic of telling listeners what opinion they should have and then letting them make up the facts to support it in their weak-minded brains.

I said run and stay in shape. Go play with Kicker over at the top 150 rankings.

 

[GT45]

But that is part of what I want to know. So, if you sign D1, what do you expect? Your description is a 1/4 chance of injury, a 1/4 chance of less than expected playing time, and a 1/2 chance of wanting to finish out 4 years.

If that’s true, then studying hard and playing for Harvey Mudd or CalTech is starting to look mighty good.

Sure if you do not want to challenge yourself. Some people want to see if they can make it at a top program. Also, sometimes priorities just change in life. You go from being a child to an adult while you are in college. And, other things may take on priority for some people.

 

[EOTL]

I said run and stay in shape. Go play with Kicker over at the top 150 rankings.

So you don’t have any reason to believe the Cal coach actually said anything inappropriate, then? I want to make sure I’m not missing anything. Now is your chance to add details if you have any Mr. Fat Shamer. Do you know a single thing to support your fat shaming belief other than the Cal coach telling a player she needed to be more fit or leaner in order to play more at a D1 program that everyone here claims should be competing for national titles?

And why, exactly, is it that someone with all the fitness and diet tools in the world at her disposal would go on “crash diets” and engage in other destructive unilateral action when there is no way any coach or athletic department official would ever condone that as a way to become a more effective player? You’re the exercise guy, so please feel free to explain.

 

[crush]

Sure if you do not want to challenge yourself. Some people want to see if they can make it at a top program. Also, sometimes priorities just change in life. You go from being a child to an adult while you are in college. And, other things may take on priority for some people.

And some girls cut themselves at night. They sleep all alone and they have deal with all the pressure. They have MAJOR depression. Wake up guys. This is not to be taken lightly.

 

[MacDre]

I would be curious to know how many commenters have daughters that have played or are playing college soccer.

MacDre wondered how to tell a player she sucks and to kick rocks. The answer is simple, you don't. You communicate that they are not ready for the game by letting them watch from the stands or the bench.

If I recall correctly, your method is precisely what Neil did in at least one instance. One young lady is complaining because Neil benched her and told her that she’d never play again. The young lady refused to leave and said it was humiliating that she was the only one that didn’t play.

I think you are proving my point of the difficulty of delivering bad news and crushing dreams.

 

[crush]

So you don’t have any reason to believe the Cal coach actually said anything inappropriate, then? I want to make sure I’m not missing anything. Now is your chance to add details if you have any Mr. Fat Shamer. Do you know a single thing to support your fat shaming belief other than the Cal coach telling a player she needed to be more fit or leaner in order to play more at a D1 program that everyone here claims should be competing for national titles?

And why, exactly, is it that someone with all the fitness and diet tools in the world at her disposal would go on “crash diets” and engage in other destructive unilateral action when there is no way any coach or athletic department official would ever condone that as a way to become a more effective player? You’re the exercise guy, so please feel free to explain.

 

[watfly]

No. My point is don't sell your school short. There is nothing worse than a Trojan (I mean, that is, if you are of a certain old age like yours truly and were a Pac-10 fan or student in the 80s) . . . except maybe a Dodger fan (w/apologies to my late grandparents, Dodger season ticketholders from 1958).

Truth be told, I'm not so much embarrassed as I just keep it on the DL, because it always leads to a bunch of questions due to my personal profile. I'll say this, my college's football team typically outranked yours, but they we're usually playing with mostly 25 year olds.

 

[EOTL]

And some girls cut themselves at night. They sleep all alone and they have deal with all the pressure. They have MAJOR depression. Wake up guys. This is not to be taken lightly.

This is hyperbole intended to support a position that you cannot support factually even from what was alleged so far by the players.

Honestly, claiming that one should not tell a D1 athlete that they need to be more fit to play because they might cut themselves is ridiculous. What is more ridiculous is the fact that this is coming from a guy who put his 10 year old daughter on a track to be a professional soccer player by age 18.

 

[crush]

This is hyperbole intended to support a position that you cannot support factually even from what was alleged so far by the players.

Honestly, claiming that one should not tell a D1 athlete that they need to be more fit to play because they might cut themselves is ridiculous. What is more ridiculous is the fact that this is coming from a guy who put his 10 year old daughter on a track to be a professional soccer player by age 18.

No it's not. I do my homework and talk to dads with kids in college. I swear 100% more and more girls are depressed with life and pressure then at anytime. Why did the NCAA change the rules bro? The girls were used and stuck in the middle with guys like that Singer dude and male middle mans making a buck off kids hard work. Why does youth soccer have to point to college or else to 7th graders?

 

[EOTL]

No it's not. I do my homework and talk to dads with kids in college. I swear 100% more and more girls are depressed with life and pressure then at anytime. Why did the NCAA change the rules bro? The girls were used and stuck in the middle with guys like that Singer dude and male middle mans making a buck off kids hard work. Why does youth soccer have to point to college or else to 7th graders?

Telling your 11 year old daughter that you’re going to tell college coaches that she’s too good for college and she’s going pro at 18 isn’t too much pressure, but telling a 20 year old woman that she needs to be more fit if she’s going to play at a D1 program is too much pressure? Sure.

Letting unfit players play over those who put in the work is a very poor way to prevent depression in young women.

Oh, and Singer had nothing to do with women’s soccer players and depression. None of the kids he got into school even played soccer, and none of them took a scholarship or even a roster spot away from anyone on the team because, duh, they were on the team. Seriously, what the hell are you even talking about? Next, you’ll be claiming Ted Cruz’s dad and the Cuban government conspired to cause depression in young women. In fact, that’s probably a less ridiculous thing to say because I hear JFK was quite popular with the ladies.

 

[crush]

Telling your 11 year old daughter that you’re going to tell college coaches that she’s too good for college and she’s going pro at 18 isn’t too much pressure, but telling a 20 year old woman that she needs to be more fit if she’s going to play at a D1 program is too much pressure? Sure.

Letting unfit players play over those who put in the work is a very poor way to prevent depression in young women.

Oh, and Singer had nothing to do with women’s soccer players and depression. None of the kids he got into school even played soccer, and none of them took a scholarship or even a roster spot away from anyone on the team because, duh, they were on the team. Seriously, what the hell are you even talking about? Next, you’ll be claiming Ted Cruz’s dad and the Cuban government conspired to cause depression in young women. In fact, that’s probably a less ridiculous thing to say because I hear JFK was quite popular with the ladies.

The Docs said she could go pro, not me. I was playing satire on here like I always do Coach. My dd is going to college, just not sure she will be playing soccer. She can still go and cheer on the football team and girls soccer team, right? Can she walk on maybe? Or is that not allowed Doc?

 

[dk_b]

Truth be told, I'm not so much embarrassed as I just keep it on the DL, because it always leads to a bunch of questions due to my personal profile. I'll say this, my college's football team typically outranked yours, but they we're usually playing with mostly 25 year olds.

they had some exciting teams in that era, if I can decipher the clues, Young man.

 

[watfly]

they had some exciting teams in that era, if I can decipher the clues, Young man.

I see what you did there, took me a minute, though. Yep, allegedly won the National Championship my freshman year.

 

[MrCruett]

How is what you’re saying not worse than what the Cal coach said?

Other than saying it on the Internet to a virtual idiot?

 

[crush]

I'm going to take the weekend off. Unless we have breaking news I'll see you all Sunday night. Be nice to the girls you guys. They deserve to be treated better then they have been. Let's all get real. Peace out!!!

 

[outside!]

If I recall correctly, your method is precisely what Neil did in at least one instance. One young lady is complaining because Neil benched her and told her that she’d never play again. The young lady refused to leave and said it was humiliating that she was the only one that didn’t play.

I think you are proving my point of the difficulty of delivering bad news and crushing dreams.

I think you are missing the point. A coach should not be telling a player she'd never play again. A coach should be telling a player how to improve their performance to earn playing time.

I am astounded that so many people think that all of the 20 something women that came forward did so because of nothing. A coach should be creating an environment that attracts players. Neil has failed at that.

 

[EOTL]

The Docs said she could go pro, not me. I was playing satire on here like I always do Coach. My dd is going to college, just not sure she will be playing soccer. She can still go and cheer on the football team and girls soccer team, right? Can she walk on maybe? Or is that not allowed Doc?

I’m beginning to think your synapses are short-circuiting. You made it quite clear that you were telling coaches you weren’t interested because your daughter was going pro out if HS. You were also quite upset that your daughter wasn’t playing much at a college showcase event because you had specifically told the coach that you weren’t interested in college for your daughter. You can change your handle all you want. You better get your $15 in action so you can start deleting literally everything you said on this board for almost two years.

But the actual point here is whether you have a single fact to support your assertion that the Cal coach fat shamed anyone. And, no, telling a D1 athlete that she is needs to be more fit or leaner in order to play is not fat shaming. Anything? Anything at all Mr. Fat Shamer?

 

[EOTL]

I'm going to take the weekend off. Unless we have breaking news I'll see you all Sunday night. Be nice to the girls you guys. They deserve to be treated better then they have been. Let's all get real. Peace out!!!

Yes, you’ll need the weekend to delete two years worth of posts.

 

[eastbaysoccer]

Coaches should be held to the same standard as teachers in the classroom. If you child's teacher or professor did the things Neil is accused of they would be GONE.