Cal Berkeley Coach (women) abusive

crush said:
And some girls cut themselves at night. They sleep all alone and they have deal with all the pressure. They have MAJOR depression. Wake up guys. This is not to be taken lightly.
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It is only my opinion, but if a player does not already possess the mental/emotional skills to cope with the pressures of all that it takes to play on a D1 team or cut throat team - then they should not put themselves at risk. The trouble is if a player has never faced adversity then they may never have had a chance to develop those coping skills. And some people have personality or anxiety disorders or unresolved trauma that makes me think that they will always struggle in a very competitive environment.
 
MacDre said:
I don’t look at D1 as a development experience. Folks should be developed when they arrived. D1 should be viewed as a finishing school for developed players seeking professional opportunities.

The fact that many are expecting development and hand holding is indicative of unrealistic expectations on behalf of those players.
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Players should come to a program fit and with solid technical skills. But surely a player can expect to be individually developed or are coaches just playing to win?
 
MacDre said:
I’m having a hard time understanding what you mean by improvement at D1 level. Technique? Speed? Strength? Fitness? The only development I see occurring is if a player can adjust to the speed and physicality of the game at that level. Some will. Some won’t. But there ain’t much development happening in D1 in my opinion.
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You touched on another tangent..”ain’t much development happening in D1 in my opinion”...

if someone aspires to make USNational team, play pro in the US or Europe, and they’re no longer developing once they start playing long ball for AD or whoever, why is playing D1 soccer even in theconversation?

Europe and pretty much the rest of the world has next to zero interest in plateauing as a college player.

aside from playing soccer to get into your reach / dream school, why go that route If development ends there?
 
msoccerm said:
Players should come to a program fit and with solid technical skills. But surely a player can expect to be individually developed or are coaches just playing to win?
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I think self preservation is what we have to think about. As a practical matter, as a coach why risk your job trying to develop a player instead of focusing on winning the most games and keeping your job. I’d also guarantee that a coach that plays to win and doesn’t develop has much better job security and reputation than a coach that develops and doesn’t win.
 
Giesbock said:
You touched on another tangent..”ain’t much development happening in D1 in my opinion”...

if someone aspires to make USNational team, play pro in the US or Europe, and they’re no longer developing once they start playing long ball for AD or whoever, why is playing D1 soccer even in theconversation?

Europe and pretty much the rest of the world has next to zero interest in plateauing as a college player.

aside from playing soccer to get into your reach / dream school, why go that route If development ends there?
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Good question. My kids pediatrician and coaches at Club Tijuana think girls can go pro at 15. Hopefully be a franchise player by 19. If a player is 19 in college hoping to get developed, they are a day late and a dollar short.
 
Sandypk said:
I am a female, was in the service, and played college soccer. My college soccer coach, who is still coaching D1, was way harder on us physically than any drill sergeant, commander, or during my overseas experiences.
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Thank you for your service.
 
eastbaysoccer said:
bottom line is NEIL has underperformed when compared to other coaches in the Pac-12 with similar acadmeic profiles. Stanford, UCLA Zane USC have all won national championships and he barely gets out of the first round. That IMO is enough to dump him and replace him with a top female coach like Tiffany Roberts and others.
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Great school but it's Berkeley, not some amazing city where 18 year olds want to flock to. Palo Alto, Westwood, etc much more attractive city wise. I agree he could have advanced further on average in NCAA's but when you have to face SCU literally every single year in the first round because of the dumb travel reasons for early round games, that's tough too. SCU is good just about every year. Even Stanford have lost to SCU a few times I believe. Maybe, just maybe all the letters of support that's been sent to CAL AD and to the news station will one day be released? Probably not. It's always a 2 way street is all I'm saying. Another factor why some big time coaches may not want CAL is it really doesn't pay too(149k before taxes)well for a big d1 job especially living in the Bay Area. Other areas of the country, that's good. There is a reason he coaches at Mustang and runs some camp program.
 
soccer4us said:
Great school but it's Berkeley, not some amazing city where 18 year olds want to flock to. Palo Alto, Westwood, etc much more attractive city wise. I agree he could have advanced further on average in NCAA's but when you have to face SCU literally every single year in the first round because of the dumb travel reasons for early round games, that's tough too. SCU is good just about every year. Even Stanford have lost to SCU a few times I believe. Maybe, just maybe all the letters of support that's been sent to CAL AD and to the news station will one day be released? Probably not. It's always a 2 way street is all I'm saying. Another factor why some big time coaches may not want CAL is it really doesn't pay too(149k before taxes)well for a big d1 job especially living in the Bay Area. Other areas of the country, that's good. There is a reason he coaches at Mustang and runs some camp program.
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That is really interesting commentary about Berkeley/Pablo Alto/Westwood/Santa Clara and what 18 year olds want. As someone who has spent a lot of time in all those communities (less in Westwood/West LA than in the others) and currently spends a lot of time with teenagers and young adults, I think there are a lot of 18 year olds who do want to flock to B-town (and certainly many who prefer something w/a less Berkeley vibe) - under normal times, it is rich mix of food, art, cultural and political history and intellectual vibrancy. For such a small city, it offers a ton (and has proximity to so much more). But I think you are either commenting about your own likes or painting young people with an awfully broad brush.

I agree with you re the unfortunate match-ups against SCU. That has presented a challenge for Cal (losing Indigo to an early red card was just brutal in 2017). And I agree that coach pay IS a big issue at Cal - it’s a problem throughout the athletic department. Berkeley is an expensive city and we know that other parts of the Bay are equally pricey.

You should encourage the people who have sent letters of support to make them public. They don’t need the AD’s or KTVU’s permission to release the letters. I’m surprised that that has not happened.
 
soccer4us said:
Great school but it's Berkeley, not some amazing city where 18 year olds want to flock to.
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Throwing shade at B-town. Next time you visit Palo Alto and cross the 101 to EPA keep your eyes in your rear view and run all stop signs or you could end up with a pistol in your face. You have earned yourself a special MacDre dedication:
 
EOTL said:
I’m beginning to think your synapses are short-circuiting. You made it quite clear that you were telling coaches you weren’t interested because your daughter was going pro out if HS. You were also quite upset that your daughter wasn’t playing much at a college showcase event because you had specifically told the coach that you weren’t interested in college for your daughter.
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I have to respond. BTW, food was at Eves in Encinitas for wife's big 50th. Tasty food :) Moon was beautiful with the planets at the Moon Beach.

Purple response: I consider this old news but it gives gr8t insight into why I have to repeat the truth because liars like you who hurt kids and their families need to be dealt with. To all my dear friends 46, 43, Luis, Fact, EOTL, Grace, Messy, Outlaw, espola, Long Game, 808, Keeper dads and moms, Hound, dad, futbol dad and all the dads and moms out there, this is why I have to keep repeating the truth with satire. IT is involved with youth sports for girls and is a middleman or or was or still thinks he is to college game. I've been dealing with him since my dd was in 7th grade. He does not care about kids, trust me. Some dads share stories of the truth through satire. What is Satire? The use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other hot topics like, Socal Youth Soccer:

All the new people on here and old foes. Listen up and listen carefully, unless you have me on ignore. The Doc and his side kick were telling me and my goat that girls will go pro and not college. Do you honestly I think I believed them? They also told me if my dd left the GDA for high school soccer she would never make her dream come true. That is cruel and not unusual. They also said if you leave for that second tier washed league called ECNL, well you can kiss that other dream goodbye. That is cruel and stupid to say to 8th grader, Plus, no free handouts loser dad. Oh, and I never chase parents when they want to leave the family, just black list your ass......lol!!!! BTW, we know everyone in the industry so do your absolute best to........... STFU and while your at it, GTFO too asshat ((thanks Happy))

Red Response: I never spoke to the Doc your referring to EOTL about college at that time. Actually it was he that asked my dd where she wanted to ball in college in 8th grade because rules were changing and all he had to do was make a call and they obey him. Pay up and do as I say and all will go with your soul. My dd only said she wasnt sure she wanted to go to college ((math teacher in 8th grade was a complete ass and ruin any love she had for the subject)) and she knew to get past that exclusive 4.0 she needed to get an A in Math, Impossible for her little brain at the time. The pressure was insane.

I still think if they paid these girls real living wages and all the perks like the dudes, then my dd could make a run at it after high school.
 
msoccerm said:
It is only my opinion, but if a player does not already possess the mental/emotional skills to cope with the pressures of all that it takes to play on a D1 team or cut throat team - then they should not put themselves at risk. The trouble is if a player has never faced adversity then they may never have had a chance to develop those coping skills. And some people have personality or anxiety disorders or unresolved trauma that makes me think that they will always struggle in a very competitive environment.
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This whole forum is about opinion. I do like to add first hand experience to some of MOOs so were all good. Thanks for sharing BTW. Here's my opinion.
I have come to believe that most teens do not share their true feelings with their over bearing parents who demand kid gets 4.0+ and so one. For example, I share my heart on here and it takes a beaten but keeps on ticking. I have an open heart. I have been telling everyone on here that 8 out of 10 girls quit or dont finish school. Why? They dont have the skills to cope, that's 100% correct. Bingo!!! Then we put them in a situation that is impossible for them to handle. Let's all agree 8 out 10 quit? Why? Not all quit because of feeling a little stressed out trying to be goodie little two shoe and not let dad down and her new coach who yells a little. My dd and I need a little kick here and there but not ultimatums. I always thought this was a four year relationship with a degree to earn. Now we have first hand witnesses who say D1 girls soccer is more intense then boot camp in the Marines. Thanks for serving Sandy.
 
Wwood said:
What about Tom Cruise? Are you okay with the way he was yelling??
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I was never a fan for personal reason and folks I know who know way more about Mr Cruise the church he attends. Not a nice guy is all I can say. He got a new girl who is 20 years younger.

Preach it bro!!!!

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Giesbock said:
Well there’s a helluva start to the weekend!
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What are friends foe bro? Listen man, were all in this together and help is on the way in a very big and I mean BIG way. I know many in the know so trust me. I say, get out of the way and let the pros help us. We ALL need help Giesbock. Happy Saturday. Get ready brah. Do you believe me now?
 
crush said:
What are friends foe bro? Listen man, were all in this together and help is on the way in a very big and I mean BIG way. I know many in the know so trust me. I say, get out of the way and let the pros help us. We ALL need help Giesbock. Happy Saturday. Get ready brah. Do you believe me now?
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I’m not sure what you mean about getting out of the way to let the pros help us? Please clarify...
 
outside! said:
So you are saying Neil decided she would never play again, even if she improved to the point she was better than the player in her spot on the starting roster? If it isn't a coaches job to motivate and encourage players to get better, then the coaches that do manage to do that are probably the best coaches. When you have a player playing D1 soccer, come back and talk.
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The best coaches are the ones that inspire and motivate. Players want to
soccer4us said:
Great school but it's Berkeley, not some amazing city where 18 year olds want to flock to. Palo Alto, Westwood, etc much more attractive city wise. I agree he could have advanced further on average in NCAA's but when you have to face SCU literally every single year in the first round because of the dumb travel reasons for early round games, that's tough too. SCU is good just about every year. Even Stanford have lost to SCU a few times I believe. Maybe, just maybe all the letters of support that's been sent to CAL AD and to the news station will one day be released? Probably not. It's always a 2 way street is all I'm saying. Another factor why some big time coaches may not want CAL is it really doesn't pay too(149k before taxes)well for a big d1 job especially living in the Bay Area. Other areas of the country, that's good. There is a reason he coaches at Mustang and runs some camp program.
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Well maybe dump Neil and grab Tracy Hamm at Davis. She's on the rise and would take the job. Cal needs to get this negative press off their back and get the focus back on Football and Hoops.
 
eastbaysoccer said:
The best coaches are the ones that inspire and motivate. Players want to


Well maybe dump Neil and grab Tracy Hamm at Davis. She's on the rise and would take the job. Cal needs to get this negative press off their back and get the focus back on Football and Hoops.
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Stud Player. The Cal Bears are always tough :)

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