SCDSL Splitting Off from Cal South

As long as they hold these new state cup competitions before everyone starts their December tryouts. Or this new format forces clubs to wait to hold their tryouts until a more reasonable time frame.

I would say the opposite. Hopefully the fact that there will now be a fall, winter, and spring season with State Cup after that, clubs will finally wise up and do tryouts at the END of a season. Always seemed really stupid to do tryouts in December, take a break, then return with some kids already leaving for their new teams, couple of new kids added, and then play for the State Cup. What?!
 
I would say the opposite. Hopefully the fact that there will now be a fall, winter, and spring season with State Cup after that, clubs will finally wise up and do tryouts at the END of a season. Always seemed really stupid to do tryouts in December, take a break, then return with some kids already leaving for their new teams, couple of new kids added, and then play for the State Cup. What?!
Yes, You are saying what I meant to say. I should have taken out the word "December" and just said tryouts.
 
Even though SoCal has many more teams than NorCal. SoCal should act as it's own state. We have the population density. We should not have to travel out of the area.
It’s just the top 2 teams traveling (every other year) so basically after you beat all the so cal teams. Considering I had to go to Coachella AND Lancaster last year for GROUP PLAY ! I’d have no problem going to Davis or Dublin for the semi finals after winning what would be 8 or 11 games here at Silverlakes, Great Park, or Oceanside.
 
It’s just the top 2 teams traveling (every other year) so basically after you beat all the so cal teams. Considering I had to go to Coachella AND Lancaster last year for GROUP PLAY ! I’d have no problem going to Davis or Dublin for the semi finals after winning what would be 8 or 11 games here at Silverlakes, Great Park, or Oceanside.
My prediction (provided this setup lasts more than two years before someone churns the pot). SoCal teams will win a decisive majority of the "State" championships, yet still be forced to travel out of the area 50% of the time.
 
My prediction (provided this setup lasts more than two years before someone churns the pot). SoCal teams will win a decisive majority of the "State" championships, yet still be forced to travel out of the area 50% of the time.
The second isn’t much of a prediction. The agreement states that norcal and socal would trade off who gets to host.

But, yes, state cup just got a lot harder to win for norcal teams.
 
It’s just the top 2 teams traveling (every other year) so basically after you beat all the so cal teams. Considering I had to go to Coachella AND Lancaster last year for GROUP PLAY ! I’d have no problem going to Davis or Dublin for the semi finals after winning what would be 8 or 11 games here at Silverlakes, Great Park, or Oceanside.

I hope this new set up makes state cup something that players and parents get excited about. Under the current set up, many teams have half of their players with one foot out the door because they attended a tryout in December.
 
My prediction (provided this setup lasts more than two years before someone churns the pot). SoCal teams will win a decisive majority of the "State" championships, yet still be forced to travel out of the area 50% of the time.
If your right which you likely are it’s still good for SoCal teams cause now we get to take the NorCal spots into the regional/national events since they gotta go through SoCal to move on.
 
I hope this new set up makes state cup something that players and parents get excited about. Under the current set up, many teams have half of their players with one foot out the door because they attended a tryout in December.
Part of playing SC games in Fall and continuing into winter i think helps float that December gap and keeps players/teams engaged longer than now.
 
I doubt it. Almost nothing is club soccer is "what is best for the players".
SCDSL already set aside and budgeted a minimum of $1.7 Million just for State cup. All geared toward enhancing the player experience. So hopefully that helps improve the status quo of what’s being done now by CS.
 
SCDSL already set aside and budgeted a minimum of $1.7 Million just for State cup. All geared toward enhancing the player experience. So hopefully that helps improve the status quo of what’s being done now by CS.
You mean $1.7m that will come in form of fees for clubs. I heard our fees will go up but it’s because now it’s a year long season. My wife did ask me when are the kids going to be able to play another sport. She has a valid point.
 
You mean $1.7m that will come in form of fees for clubs. I heard our fees will go up but it’s because now it’s a year long season. My wife did ask me when are the kids going to be able to play another sport. She has a valid point.
Well...if they are going to play “club level” in another sport, you’re in for a financial awakening.
 
Will this mean CSL and SCDSL players can actually be rostered on two teams or can switch from one league to another league mid season regardless of roster freezes (which always permitted AYSO core players to join midseason) since there isn’t one governing body that sets rules and issues IDs for both? I know each could have their own rules against it, but it used to be Cal South would catch it even when the teams didn’t know.
 
Will this mean CSL and SCDSL players can actually be rostered on two teams or can switch from one league to another league mid season regardless of roster freezes (which always permitted AYSO core players to join midseason) since there isn’t one governing body that sets rules and issues IDs for both? I know each could have their own rules against it, but it used to be Cal South would catch it even when the teams didn’t know.

No cross checking, can be rostered to multiple teams /w the same club in USclub at the same time, multiple teams for different associations at the same time: Cal South, USYS MLS Next, USclub: ECNL, RL, NPL but only one team per day for USclub for the same club.

Not many people are multiple rostered (max sizes still apply 22 for the season) during regular league season but come playoff or post season time there is some movement. The higher number of rostered players makes for less possible movement, carrying 18 leaves 4 open for later for example.
 
Will this mean CSL and SCDSL players can actually be rostered on two teams or can switch from one league to another league mid season regardless of roster freezes (which always permitted AYSO core players to join midseason) since there isn’t one governing body that sets rules and issues IDs for both? I know each could have their own rules against it, but it used to be Cal South would catch it even when the teams didn’t know.

Parents, please don't do this.
 
I haven't studied the proposed league dates, other than I see that a fall season, a fall state cup, a spring season and spring state cup (I think) are proposed.
What does this do to the Spring tournament season?
 
I haven't studied the proposed league dates, other than I see that a fall season, a fall state cup, a spring season and spring state cup (I think) are proposed.
What does this do to the Spring tournament season?
Teams who join US Club Soccer go there knowing they’re most likely not going to have a free weekend which will be supplemented by “higher quality” league play. If someone were to tell you NOW they’re going to play So Cal NPL instead of National Cup they’d say you’re insane but that’s how it was back in 2016 when SCNPL was the only NPL in this area if the country.
 
You mean $1.7m that will come in form of fees for clubs. I heard our fees will go up but it’s because now it’s a year long season. My wife did ask me when are the kids going to be able to play another sport. She has a valid point.
A lot of it is money they already have banked. That profit everyone thinks gets pocketed that actually isn’t. They’re reinvesting back into the program. I know it’s crazy. League fees have already gone down the past 2 seasons because of that same surplus. That also includes the addition of the discovery division which the league covers the extra cost for that as well. The new cost breakdown is still cheaper. For youngers $1100 total for league and State Cup. So $400 for a 16 game league which is less than the $450 we were paying 3 years ago and and now an extra 4 games. $700 for State Cup which is less than we were Paying at cal south and now getting guaranteed Min 5 games instead of 3 (among other things mentioned in this thread). For olders it’s something like $1700 total but also Includes the college showcase tournaments. So still a better cost.

For kids to play multiple of any competitive/club sports it’s a tough juggling act. It’s not a soccer thing. My 2 kids play at least 2 sports at a time and while it’s tough and really expensive on me and my wife it’s still plenty doable. And when I say really expensive I ain’t talking about the Soccer cost either. That’s the cheapest of them. Plus if you asked them to take 6 months off any one sport to play the other they wouldn’t want to. Trust me I’ve tried. I think It’s actually a luxury we have here in So Cal. Other states that deal with weather issues aren’t playing half these sports outdoors in the winter time so doing multiple isn’t even a choice there.
 
CalSouth has been terrible for a very long time. ODP is a joke. State Cup has become increasingly irrelevant. Ask CalSouth to see the insurance policy that covers your kids. See how much they pay vs. how much they collect in player fees. It's a bloated bureaucracy that is intensely political and incredibly inefficient. This has been a long time coming.
 
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