Norcal is top teams. CalNorth is lower tier and rec. They split the mid level teams.
Both host their own state cup.
SCDSL Splitting Off from Cal South
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Both host their own state cup.
Eagle33
PREMIER
Let's be honest, Cal South State Cup as it was need it a change. All the traveling, shitty fields (for few exceptions), horrible hotels in a places where people don't stay unless it is a youth soccer tournament in town, and the list go on and on.
I don't mind at all playing State Cup as SCDSL saying - local fields, start before Christmas break (aka before teams disband). Tons of games for youngers with Spring included. Isn't this what we wanted for so many years? more games?
Why do you guys have travel for state cup? Our round 1 is local games. Even rounds 2 and 3 are day trips for most people. (norcal)
If you’re too big for a single state cup with less travel, break socal into 2 or 3 smaller regions that don’t meet until semi-finals. Even with a 3 way split, each chunk would still be bigger than most states.
I'm glad my kids are ageing out soon.
I just saw there is also another new league coming to a club near you: https://thescnl.com/
"Select Clubs National League (SCNL) is a newly formed platform that will be focusing solely on player development through highest level of competition and maximum exposure for players to college coaches. The SCNL will operate with all competition planning and participation being conducted by member clubs and not by a soccer association. "
notintheface
GOLD
The venues for State Cup are all over the place. If you're coming from northern LA county and get booked at Galway Downs, that isn't a fun trip. Similarly if you're in Orange county and you get booked up in Lancaster, that isn't a fun trip either. That happens all the time.
on edit since you may or may not know the venues: Orange County to Lancaster can be a 4 hour drive.
Everyone in SoCal asks the same question. Glad were out of that circuit.
Maybe if we are lucky this could grow into a state cup with 1 norcal team, two cal south, and 1 San Diego / South OC.
Or maybe the adults will keep chopping soccer into smaller chunks so everyone can be state cup champs.
I'd love to see a league say "We are focused on our players. We will play close to home. We know we have college caliber players, but we won't be travelling all of the country to show our kids off. We will have enough quality players that colleges would be stupid to not come to us."
SoccerFan4Life
PREMIER
It’s easy. Top 2 to 4 teams from each county play in the next round. The top 2 from that tournament play against the top 2 from NorCal. All teams get to play locally for the first few rounds.
notintheface
GOLD
I am going to go out on a limb and say that the pandemic is going to make this much, much worse. As we start to see contraction at a local level, larger clubs are going to be ever more desperate to be able to squeeze parents for more money. The easiest way to do that is to convince them that their Flight 1-and-a-half team is now good enough to play at a national level, if they'll just pony up another couple grand plus travel expenses.
There has been absolutely no thought put into this beyond "we have to make more money". No thought whatsoever. Planning by clubs only, get the hell out of here, I can guarantee this is an overly optimistic tournament director who thinks that regional league play will be the exact same workload. This will benefit precisely zero kids. Zero. None.
For all of you club administrators out there who are looking at pay cuts and having to lay off coaches for lack of kids, guess what, welcome to the buzzsaw. Spinning up yet another multi-state travel network isn't going to magically get your balance sheet back on track and after a year when all of your families are bailing because they see through the scam, you're going to be in even worse shape. ("We're flying to Nevada for this?!?") Stop trying to stick your fingers in the dam and work with your local ecosystem to get things back on track.