Surf Cup's Fate

My son's school required testing after a fall break. It was $40. $1750 seems a bit outrageous.

Yes....yes it is. But it was also in September when the market was tighter and they were asking people not to use the public facilities unless sick, and it was a private driveup for the kids at school. They should have told me, though, if it wasn't going to be covered...there are going to be quite a few poed parents this week as I know many have the same (very good) insurance.

Even had I know though I probably would have still paid it (I was hospitalized at the time and had to have a relative take him, and it seemed unfair to have them go to an urgent care and risk getting sick especially after breaking isolation). You can get quicker public free appointments in VC and Los Angeles if you are willing to get out of your car....they just don't seem to be getting as many takers as the drive thrus sites.
 
This is part of the problem. At this juncture, 9 months in, these tests should pretty much be free. I know I shouldn't be surprised but yet, color me surprised that testing is still a hot mess.
In San Diego County there are free testing sites. If anyone is interested/in need SDSU's Alumni Center is a free testing site for the county - a friend went on Thursday and was in and out and got her test results on Friday.

My DD's team made the decision to pull out of Surf Cup last month. Initially I was really disappointed b/c I know the girls desperately want to play and we have a couple uncommitted 21's (and all our 22's) who really need game footage (and I mean come on - it's my daughter's senior year - I just want to see her play her last year of club). But now I don't think I would want to go with the current conditions. I'm all for letting the kids play and I hope in the start of the year we can start seeing SoCal teams playing each other without having to travel to another state to do so, but with so many teams/clubs pulling out I don't know if it would be worth the drive for low quality games for the olders. I would also worry about injuries. But that's just my opinion. I'm one who's been very cautious in our daily lives (based on sentiments on this site, I'm sure some would automatically assume I'm afraid to come out of my bubble), but I 110% support letting the kids play. My kids have been practicing and playing since June and I feel like soccer, along with other outdoor activities, is relatively low risk. I will also say that when my DD was a U little I never would have considered traveling for this tournament in the current climate. But again, that's just my opinion based on my experiences over the years.
 
Yes....yes it is. But it was also in September when the market was tighter and they were asking people not to use the public facilities unless sick, and it was a private driveup for the kids at school. They should have told me, though, if it wasn't going to be covered...there are going to be quite a few poed parents this week as I know many have the same (very good) insurance.

Even had I know though I probably would have still paid it (I was hospitalized at the time and had to have a relative take him, and it seemed unfair to have them go to an urgent care and risk getting sick especially after breaking isolation). You can get quicker public free appointments in VC and Los Angeles if you are willing to get out of your car....they just don't seem to be getting as many takers as the drive thrus sites.
In LA, you don't have to get out of your car-- At least at the sites my daughter has been at - I know Dodger Stadium was one place she went to. She was working in a restaurant and was so scared of getting Covid that she was getting tested quite frequently. That's the only reason I know.
 
I think the testing does ebb and flow in terms of accessibility and availability. We tried getting tested this week, (all had symptoms,) and struck out locally. And that includes places like CVS, Walgreens, and Kaiser, (they had nothing local to us, but we could drive an hour out.) We finally were able to get tests in the next town over but man- why is it so crazy?!?
 
I wanted to get tested to verify I did not have it back in June before I travelled to PA for work ( for an essential sector construction project). I wanted to get tested at one of the free CA testing sites. When I signed up for an appointment ( required at the time) it requested my health insurance information. I did some basic research and found that if you have insurance they want to bill your insurance. No insurance and it was covered by relief funds. I decided I should check to see what my insurance would say if they were billed. I was told that my insurance would not pay for the test it was not required by a Dr. Well, I would have had to go see the Dr. (pay out of pocket for the office visit) just to get authorization from them to get tested and that was very difficult in June. I eventually gave up and didn't get tested. Free is not always free. Now, there is a 4 day wait for an appointment for the "free" testing.
 
They are free if you are willing to put in the time: 2.5 hours in Moorpark right before thanksgiving, 1.5 hours in Oxnard after thanksgiving break, and for niece 1.2 hours at Dodger Stadium with appointment. VC has been looking to add sites and capacity but is having problem finding people willing to do it and locations not NIMBYing
My daughter did an indoor soccer tournament in California during thanksgiving weekend. We had zero covid cases. We also went to a thanksgiving outdoor family lunch and.... 3 covid cases. $200 to get tested per person.
 
I got tested 3 x in September each time was $125 and results in 20-30 min. My friend just got tested for free at stadium for free . Not sure why it would be 1750, ouch.

Heres a question , say you go to a tournament out of state. Does your club or work have the right to ask you to test and if you refuse to test, do they have the right to force you to quarantine for 10 days?
 
I got tested 3 x in September each time was $125 and results in 20-30 min. My friend just got tested for free at stadium for free . Not sure why it would be 1750, ouch.

Heres a question , say you go to a tournament out of state. Does your club or work have the right to ask you to test and if you refuse to test, do they have the right to force you to quarantine for 10 days?
Good luck with that line in the sand.
 
I got tested 3 x in September each time was $125 and results in 20-30 min. My friend just got tested for free at stadium for free . Not sure why it would be 1750, ouch.

Heres a question , say you go to a tournament out of state. Does your club or work have the right to ask you to test and if you refuse to test, do they have the right to force you to quarantine for 10 days?
My friend got tested twice last week and was negative both times. The boss tells him to stay away from the office ((residential electrical company)) and customers are not looking to have someone in their home that looks and acts like he has Rona. Dude got sick earlier in the year and has no sick days left and he can't say Rona because he's negative. $300 for two rapid test the small owner had to pay. If he had Rona, he closes his doors because most of his team is already scared and just need a reason to go on Rona Relief. Runny nose, cough and all that. Q. He's been out of work for 10 days now because of his cough. Can he get Rona Relief? "Oh what a relief it is......????" His boss told him to stay away? Should bossman pay? Bossman is about to close his doors because another dude just said he can't work because he's a afraid of my buddy now, even though he tested negative. Good luck small business owner and all you trades people who keep risking your life helping others.
 
Good luck with that line in the sand.
At least for workplaces, it seems they have a strong case that the employee puts their coworkers at risk by failing to quarantine. I would not want to bet against employers being able to fire an employee in such a case. I can even see the union taking either side.
 
I got tested 3 x in September each time was $125 and results in 20-30 min. My friend just got tested for free at stadium for free . Not sure why it would be 1750, ouch.

Heres a question , say you go to a tournament out of state. Does your club or work have the right to ask you to test and if you refuse to test, do they have the right to force you to quarantine for 10 days?

As California is a right to work state, you can be fired for any reason, including refusing to test or quarantine.
 
As California is a right to work state, you can be fired for any reason, including refusing to test or quarantine.
Yes, that is true. I had a friend who owned a company and he caught one of his employee stealing, on camera. This dude was so pissed. Drove to the thief's house and called him out. Fired his ass on the spot. Guess what? Thief sued employer for a few things that the employer was doing wrong and it ended up costing my pal $30,000 to settle. He wasnt documenting the thief's lunch times ((construction)) for over two yeas and got back pay plus attorneys got $10K each for a days work. The moral of the story my pal said? Find a way to get the thief to just quit.......it's way cheaper. It was just some old copper pipes worth $90 and ended up costing my pal $30,000 because he can fire anyone. Dummy!!! Lesson learned :)
 
I got tested 3 x in September each time was $125 and results in 20-30 min. My friend just got tested for free at stadium for free . Not sure why it would be 1750, ouch.

Heres a question , say you go to a tournament out of state. Does your club or work have the right to ask you to test and if you refuse to test, do they have the right to force you to quarantine for 10 days?
Would rather require family's not to go galavanting around town and lay low at the hotel then test. Let them take the stupid out of the stupids.
 
Would rather require family's not to go galavanting around town and lay low at the hotel then test. Let them take the stupid out of the stupids.

Our club has stated that they are following CDC guidelines regarding personal travel so if you leave the state for personal or club travel you can either get tested and return to training after 7 days with a negative test, or return to training after 10 days if you didn't get tested.

Aside from the employment laws they ( your club or work) might not be able to require you to quarantine, but they can tell you to stay away, which is effectively a quarantine from them.

They also stated that the club won't be traveling under the current conditions due to US Club Soccer viewing the California travel restrictions as a mandate meaning that travel would put them out of compliance with US Club Soccer rules, invalidating any insurance.

It's possible that any tournament that accepts them might also be at risk as their tournament insurance might night cover the tournament if they accept them and let them play without insurance.
 
This just in...
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Despite challenging conditions, the voice of our athletes, families, clubs and college coaches is clear – PLAY ON! More than 450 teams reaffirmed their desire to compete for the title of Best of the Best and we feel a responsibility to host this premier youth sports and college recruiting event.

As college recruiting age players have been without an opportunity to showcase themselves the past 9 months, Surf Cup, Scouting Zone and NextPro are teaming up to help connect top players and college coaches. Every game in the recruiting age groups (Boys 01/02/03, 04 and Girls 01/02/03, 04, 05) will be filmed and accessible, free for all college coaches.

Due to the support of communities surrounding Phoenix, we now have access to additional fields for this event. Therefore, we have the unique opportunity to accept 50 additional teams for Surf Cup Phoenix. If you wish to reconsider or be part of this elite event, please apply at www.surfcupsports.com/surf-cup.
Applications must be received by Wednesday, December 16th at 5pm and acceptances will be announced by Friday, December 18th.

Surf Cup has always been a leader in youth soccer and we will continue our mission to provide experiences and opportunities for kids who are desperate for the college exposure and competitive environment that has been missing the past 9 months. We will also lead in our strict adherence to safety protocols both on and off the field, which will be communicated to all teams one week prior to the event.

Team Surf
 
As California is a right to work state, you can be fired for any reason, including refusing to test or quarantine.

Please stop trying to practice law. First, CA is not a “right to work” state, what you meant is “at will” state. “Right to work” is a euphemism for employees free-loading off of their co-workers by taking all the benefits of a collective bargaining agreement without paying dues to the union.

Second, it is not necessarily true that an employer can simply fire someone for being the kind of a**hole you describe. There are other factors that come into play here. In many cases, an employer cannot terminate someone simply for refusing to take a covid test or refusing to quarantine. Certainly, employers should fire these employees when they can, since the behavior you describe is part of a larger problem - namely being a selfish a**hole who doesn’t care about the welfare of others.
 
This just in...
"
Despite challenging conditions, the voice of our athletes, families, clubs and college coaches is clear – PLAY ON! More than 450 teams reaffirmed their desire to compete for the title of Best of the Best and we feel a responsibility to host this premier youth sports and college recruiting event.

As college recruiting age players have been without an opportunity to showcase themselves the past 9 months, Surf Cup, Scouting Zone and NextPro are teaming up to help connect top players and college coaches. Every game in the recruiting age groups (Boys 01/02/03, 04 and Girls 01/02/03, 04, 05) will be filmed and accessible, free for all college coaches.

Due to the support of communities surrounding Phoenix, we now have access to additional fields for this event. Therefore, we have the unique opportunity to accept 50 additional teams for Surf Cup Phoenix. If you wish to reconsider or be part of this elite event, please apply at www.surfcupsports.com/surf-cup.
Applications must be received by Wednesday, December 16th at 5pm and acceptances will be announced by Friday, December 18th.

Surf Cup has always been a leader in youth soccer and we will continue our mission to provide experiences and opportunities for kids who are desperate for the college exposure and competitive environment that has been missing the past 9 months. We will also lead in our strict adherence to safety protocols both on and off the field, which will be communicated to all teams one week prior to the event.

Team Surf
In other words, the tournament is half the size, and even after they called up all the rejected teams, they still have slots open.

Ouch.
 
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