My oldest son has played there. I recall seeing a Placer United sign a couple doors down from the bball place. Anyone know if they are training inside? It would seem just as risky as the bball.From what I heard after the first tournament occurred, no one from the county and sheriff department really tried to put a stop to it. Kind of like oh well. Much tougher at a private facility but clearly some rules were broken with an actual tournament
More than two dozen Covid-19 cases were traced to youth basketball at a California gym, health officials say | CNN
Health officials say the outbreak occurred at a gym in Northern California where tournaments were held despite the state's pandemic-related prohibition against youth sports competitions.www.cnn.com
Surf Cup's Fate
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Glitterhater
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Placer is a couple doors down, and yes- I knew they were training inside as recently as October, (the last time I spoke to a parent there.)
For clarity: that building and Placer's building are at the end of a court, (a stone's throw from each other.)
Jose has returned
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Would the folks that want to cancel surf cup be okay with it if everyone got covid tested prior to the tournament?
oh canada
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Testing people one moment in time whether they are positive wouldn't make a difference for me.
I see Surf as Big Tobacco. They have a product (event) that they KNOW carries elevated health risks for a large group of people yet they don't care about human health and lives because they need or want $$. They know by putting the product out there and advertising it with marketing puffery, people will come. There are thousands of youth soccer addicts, just as there are millions who can't stop sucking on their Marlboros. The medical community discourages smoking but Philip Morris ignores them. Surf likewise ignores the AZ and CA medical communities who vehemently plead to cancel because hospital beds are becoming as scarce as USMNT World Cup goals.
Just think about it for a bit before reacting...Surf wants you to: Come play a kids game, during the worst health crisis the world has seen in 100 years, in a location that now has the highest rate of spread in the entire country (source below), staying and eating in this location for several days, over the festive Xmas and New Year's Eve holidays no less, against the advice of almost all medical personnel, and in direct conflict with your state's travel and gathering orders (which also then require 14 days of self-quarantine upon return).
Please tell me what "corporate recklessness" means if that is not it.
Source: https://www.azfamily.com/news/conti...cle_355ab83c-3bfd-11eb-a0cd-5f61070a2e3e.html
Soccerfan2
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Maybe? I hope kids get to play. My girls were looking forward to it and are bummed they aren’t playing.
Chalklines
GOLD
Why don't people understand its not the soccer at the tournament that's the problem? It's all the idiot parents who turn the weekend into a booze cruise and bar hop all weekend. Testings pointless before and testing afters pointless because only 1% of people going will actually self quarantine for two weeks after the tournament.
We're in the middle of a PANDEMIC with idiots who don't care. Bringing your kids into a hot spot like AZ right after Christmas travel is a joke for a watered down surf cup.
Who's really going to be at high risk are the olders playing New Years........yikes
On a side note... Im curious if Cal South will eventually require a vaccination card for play moving into late 2021? That will be the next question moving forward for a return to everything.
Experts from all countries have said you are approx 15x as likely to get covid indoors as opposed to outdoors. Sadly soccer gets punished because of basketball and volleyball.Our club in NorCal announced that they are shutting down practice for the next few weeks because of orders from the city. I’m betting this story about a youth bball team that played in tournament in another county, which led to a big outbreak, is a big factor that led the city to shutdown practices.
Large Coronavirus Outbreak Traced to Santa Clara County Youth Basketball Team | San Jose Inside
Public health officials today said the outbreak spread to at least 94 players, coaches and close contacts in three counties.www.sanjoseinside.com
Because a couple vaccines have hit snags (in testing or manufacturing), the time line for getting the kids vaccine approved and widely circulated is looking a little more shaky. My friend who's with the AAP said initially late spring. Now it's looking like maybe spring-late spring for the 17-18 year olds, late spring to early summer for children with a risk profile (like the Downs, cancer and diabetic kids), mid summer,-mid fall for all other kids....assuming there are no more hiccups in testing and manufacturing. It will be hard for schools and sports orgs to mandate it if it isn't widely available.
BTW, the timeline for testing infants and pregnant women is also dubious. If you know anyone who really wants a vaccine but is childbearing age, might not be the best time to consider taking that step.
Doctors weigh in on a COVID-19 vaccine timeline for small children and pregnant women
“A critical group for us to go ahead and make sure it’s very safe in…is obviously children.”
www.wivb.com
All true.
But I'd happily pay testing costs to give my kid a weekend with two local games. I promise to do all my celebratory drinking at home.
Realistically, I am waiting for spring.
Maybe not. I just got the bill for testing for my son's soccer practice in the fall at his school. Because they were asking to limit public testing to the symptomatic or those with confirmed contact, I (perhaps foolishly) went the good citizen route and had the testing done during test day on campus by an independent lab. Insurance has declined since it wasn't medically necessary and was out of network (didn't want to take a healthy kid to an urgent care in network either where he could pick something up since particularly then we weren't sure if you could get COVID 2x). $1750 for 2 tests and the school wanted me to test him again for just 1 day of practice at the end (to which I said no way Jose).
I have only been drunk at a soccer tournament parents' party twice, and they were both at the same tournament. (And I wasn't dancing on that table before I fell - I was merely trying to stack the empty beer cans in an artistic manner)
Here is some corporate responsibility. Truth be told, likely less altruism and more concern for their $$$$. But you get the point.
In other troubling news, more people in hospital beds today then ever, even more than July. ICU and inpatient beds at 91% capacity. For both categories, over 40% of each flavor of bed has a covid patient in it. The good news I'm told is that surge capacity is healthy and contracts are in place for additional staff, once freed from from the midwest surge. Interestingly enough, I don't get the sense of panic from the healthcare community. Many cities are only doing outpatient surgeries, which isn't good for the bottom line. Crazy environment right now.
What's good for Surf is that baseball tournaments in the west valley for this month have not been cancelled (Mesa, Fountain Hills, Chandler). The tournaments are capping attendance. In Chandler, 60 per field (includes teams, coaches,). Mesa and Fountain Hills are limiting it to 1 parent per player. Most of the teams are from AZ.
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Barrett-Jackson will reschedule its January 2021 Scottsdale Auction to the week of March 22, 2021, at WestWorld of Scottsdale
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Covid testing is a booming business right now. With school and club requirements for rona free proof, we've also spent a pretty penny the last few months.
Glitterhater
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This is part of the problem. At this juncture, 9 months in, these tests should pretty much be free. I know I shouldn't be surprised but yet, color me surprised that testing is still a hot mess.
They are free if you are willing to put in the time: 2.5 hours in Moorpark right before thanksgiving, 1.5 hours in Oxnard after thanksgiving break, and for niece 1.2 hours at Dodger Stadium with appointment. VC has been looking to add sites and capacity but is having problem finding people willing to do it and locations not NIMBYing
SJ is going door to door in hot spots, offering free tests.
I think this is partly to find cases and partly to remind people it is real.
Maybe we've been lucky but my daughter has several tests done at various places offering free tests in LA with an appointment - no more than hour waiting. We have also done testing at a local medical emergency center and insurance has covered the tests.
My son's school required testing after a fall break. It was $40. $1750 seems a bit outrageous.